0.000 1.180 BRENDA: Bu[=t anyway. 0.346 1.465 ANDREW: [(H) Hm]. 1.180 2.088 BRENDA: He's] a good kid. 2.088 2.605 ANDREW: .. N_Yeah. 2.605 3.497 .. (H) Well listen. 3.497 4.586 You have a merry Christ[mas, 4.457 5.292 BRENDA: [Well you too]. 4.586 5.292 ANDREW: Who else is there]. 5.292 6.077 BRENDA: ... Hunh? 6.077 7.042 ANDREW: .. Who else is there. 7.042 7.557 BRENDA: ... I don't know, 7.557 9.122 I don't know who you've talked to or no[t ]. 8.806 9.632 ANDREW: [I talk]ed to ~Jenny, 9.632 10.194 ~Danny, 10.194 10.885 and now you. 10.885 11.599 Now who el[se]. 11.440 11.599 BRENDA: [Oh]. 11.599 12.210 Here's ~Darlene. 12.210 12.768 @@[@@] 12.379 12.768 ANDREW: [Okay]. 12.768 13.184 BRENDA: Okay? 13.184 14.724 She's coming out here and making herself comfortable. 14.724 14.876 And @, 14.876 15.242 ha ha. 15.242 16.079 (H) Here she is. 16.079 16.593 ANDREW: [Okay]. 16.199 16.956 BRENDA: [Have a merry] Christmas. 16.956 17.815 ANDREW: .. Merry Christmas. 17.815 18.671 (H)[=] 18.123 20.315 DARLENE: [I didn't wanna] sit on all the birdie poop on the, 20.315 21.272 ... on the swing? 21.272 22.415 ... [Yeah ]. 21.657 22.279 ANDREW: [You what]? 22.415 22.696 .. Oh, 22.696 23.500 you're out [on the swing]. 23.042 23.885 DARLENE: [Oh= the] @birdie -- 23.885 24.482 Yeah=, 24.482 24.702 ANDREW: (TSK) 24.702 24.926 DARLENE: Yeah, 24.926 25.680 you got birdie poop. 25.680 26.652 ... It's dry. 26.652 28.547 It's just .. like a ... chalk mark. 28.547 29.047 BRENDA: @@@@ 29.047 30.004 ANDREW: @@@[@]@ 29.600 29.797 DARLENE: [@] 30.004 31.534 ... (H)[2= Uh=2], 30.758 31.532 ANDREW: [2(H) Well2], 31.534 32.324 merry Christmas. 32.324 33.106 DARLENE: Merry [3Christmas3]. 32.648 34.007 ANDREW: [3(H)=3] So what you been doing. 34.007 34.802 DARLENE: ... Oh=, 34.802 35.701 running from phone to phone, 35.701 36.241 answering it. 36.241 37.659 When every time you hung up. 37.659 38.180 ANDREW: .. What? 38.180 39.597 DARLENE: ... Didn't you call, 39.597 41.275 b- d- have to dial about four or five times? 41.275 42.780 ANDREW: ... (TSK) (H) I sta- % -- 42.780 45.182 ... And .. % no one %= ever picked it up. 45.182 45.623 It rang -- 45.623 46.537 It'd ring ten times, 46.537 47.043 and then quit. 47.043 48.175 DARLENE: ... Oh. 48.175 48.641 .. See, 48.641 49.623 (H) something was wrong, 49.623 50.858 you need to call the telephone company then. 50.858 51.234 Because, 51.234 51.640 I, 51.640 53.308 (H)= either me or ans- -- 53.308 55.083 uh ~Jenn answered it about five times. 55.083 55.801 ANDREW: You did? 55.801 56.174 DARLENE: Yeah. 56.174 56.557 The [phone] -- 56.342 57.496 ANDREW: [Cause] we literally started, 57.496 58.458 the minute .. ~Darlene s- -- 58.458 58.808 . 59.233 59.983 ~Janine said, 59.983 61.855 (H)= .. call at one thirty. 61.855 62.418 .. O[kay], 62.100 62.468 DARLENE: [Yeah]. 62.468 63.778 ANDREW: (H) .. A=nd, 63.778 65.791 abo=ut every tenth time, 65.791 68.142 we'd get past the .. busy circuit thing. 68.142 68.674 DARLENE: .. Yeah? 68.674 70.459 ANDREW: ... But we got through now. 70.459 71.367 What's the difference. 71.367 73.380 DARLENE: ... [The bu]sy circuit time, 72.393 72.607 ANDREW: [Si-] -- 73.380 73.715 DARLENE: and then, 73.715 75.526 did you get a busy signal here sometimes? 75.526 76.610 ANDREW: .. Sometimes? 76.610 76.839 DARLENE: Yeah, 76.839 77.182 because, 77.182 78.682 .. Doug called at twelve thirty and, 78.682 80.920 ... (H) I think it was quarter to two before we got off, 80.920 82.824 ANDREW: (H) But we called .. until, 82.824 83.894 we called from, 83.894 85.715 (H) m- uh= one thirty, 85.715 86.690 until two your time. 86.690 87.886 I literally sat there, 87.886 88.296 % and, 88.296 88.950 punched it out, 88.950 89.267 and r- -- 89.267 90.045 and hit redial. 90.045 90.704 Eve[ry time]. 90.280 92.066 DARLENE: [Well until] quarter to two the line was busy. 92.066 95.440 ANDREW: ... (H) But after that we never got through. 95.440 96.962 ... That's what I can't figure out. 96.962 97.265 [(H)] 96.962 97.735 DARLENE: [Oh I] don't know. 97.735 98.224 ANDREW: (H) I mean, 98.224 98.754 % literally, 98.754 99.759 my [thumb was sore fro- -- 98.971 100.095 CINDY: [We tried ~Brenda's, 100.095 100.895 and got the=m]. 99.759 100.898 ANDREW: .. (H) .. In fact], 100.898 102.804 we- we were wondering if our machine was working, 102.804 103.836 so we called ~Brenda's, 103.836 104.508 and ~Mason, 104.508 106.108 .. (H) is on the answering machine, 106.108 106.562 DARLENE: Yeah? 106.562 107.585 ANDREW: (H) A=nd we= said, 107.585 107.841 Yep, 107.841 108.167 worked, 108.167 108.882 and hung up. 108.882 110.117 ... We didn't leave a message, 110.117 110.699 we- we were- -- 110.699 111.307 ... You know. 111.307 112.681 We were concerned we couldn't get through. 112.681 114.043 (H)= But [we never] -- 113.624 114.043 DARLENE: [Uh=], 114.043 116.714 ... W- it was probably something with the telephone lines here in San Antonio then. 116.714 117.381 [Because] uh, 116.714 117.155 ANDREW: [Hunh]. 117.381 118.843 DARLENE: ... [2Well2], 118.456 119.542 ANDREW: [2So you2] answered it? 119.542 120.598 ... And no one was there? 120.598 121.013 DARLENE: ... Yeah, 121.013 122.027 me and ~Jenn both, 122.027 122.841 .. and then I says, 122.841 123.800 well don't answer this time, 123.800 124.856 let it ring a couple times, 124.856 126.393 ... (H) see cause we'd answer it, 126.393 127.958 ... (H) and I could hear you. 127.958 129.361 ANDREW: ... [You could hear me]? 128.328 129.361 DARLENE: [I heard you], 129.361 130.990 .. (H) I heard you say something, 130.990 131.740 ... (H) uh, 131.740 132.563 what d- what did you say. 132.563 132.932 Uh=, 132.932 135.331 ... S- %uh you said something to the effect, 135.331 136.387 something's wrong here. 136.387 137.922 ... I think that's exactly what you d- -- 137.922 138.774 Something's wrong here. 138.774 139.590 ANDREW: ... Hunh. 139.590 140.747 DARLENE: ... A=m, 140.747 142.091 .. you must've been telling ~Cindy or, 142.091 144.160 ... ~Lisa or somebody. 144.160 144.642 ANDREW: .. Mhm? 144.642 145.808 DARLENE: ... (H) And the=n, 145.808 146.262 uh, 146.262 147.597 ... we hung up again, 147.597 148.979 ... and it rang again, 148.979 150.698 and I said let me run get it in the bedroom. 150.698 151.627 ... A=nd, 151.627 153.184 (H) maybe it's something with this phone. 153.184 153.767 ANDREW: .. Yeah? 153.767 154.431 DARLENE: (H) And, 154.431 155.213 I got to the other phone, 155.213 156.167 and it was the same thing. 156.167 157.021 ANDREW: ... Hm. 157.021 158.681 ... See I [never] heard you. 158.012 158.190 DARLENE: [You] -- 158.681 160.759 ... (H) Well I screamed one time. 160.759 161.514 [Pretty loud]. 160.759 162.069 ANDREW: [@(Hx)=@@@]@@@ 162.069 163.839 DARLENE: .. Hoping [2you'd just get a2] hint of my voice, 162.470 163.081 ANDREW: [2(H)=2] 163.839 164.674 DARLENE: a=nd kn=ow, 164.674 165.483 .. something was wrong, 165.483 166.705 and [maybe just try later]. 165.526 166.705 ANDREW: [(H) We= tri=- %m-] -- 166.705 168.221 My thumb was sore from r=- -- 168.221 168.537 I says, 168.537 169.482 we're gonna wait a half hour. 169.482 170.262 @@@@@ 170.262 171.367 <@ Let my thumb heal @>. 171.367 173.226 DARLENE: ... Do you have [a redial] on your phone? 172.198 172.673 ANDREW: [(H)] 173.226 174.159 ... Yeah. 174.159 174.673 DARLENE: ... Yeah. 174.673 176.554 ... And just from punching redial it was sore? 176.554 177.433 ANDREW: .. (TSK) (H) Yeah. 177.433 178.041 DARLENE: ... Mm. 178.041 179.237 ANDREW: I mean %I %I %I- (Hx) -- 179.237 179.738 If you, 179.738 180.885 (H) if you hit the button, 180.885 181.431 nn=, 181.431 181.954 and then, 181.954 182.407 ... you know, 182.407 185.090 as soon as you know= it's %=uh not a connect, 185.090 186.864 you hit (H)= .. uh redial, 186.864 187.523 DARLENE: ... [Yeah], 187.167 188.428 ANDREW: [(H)] .. Uh=, 188.428 189.200 it goes, 189.200 190.079 a=nd uh, 190.079 191.360 ... (H)
. 191.360 191.938 We literally, 191.938 193.733 Oh I thought we were gonna wear out the buttons on the phone. 193.733 194.281 DARLENE: .. Well, 194.281 196.388 % %uh when there was that earthquake out in California, 196.388 197.591 ... , 197.591 198.338 ... , 198.338 199.034 .. the Bay Bridge, 199.034 199.584 and all that stuff? 199.584 200.334 A few years ago? 200.334 200.856 ANDREW: .. Mhm? 200.856 201.357 DARLENE: And they said, 201.357 202.308 don't call out there, 202.308 203.025 tie up the lines, 203.025 203.579 blah blah blah. 203.579 204.155 But I wanted to, 204.155 205.705 (H) .. try to get a hold of Doug anyway. 205.705 207.562 And I sat there for like two or three hours. 207.562 208.393 In front of the TV, 208.393 209.212 ANDREW: Hours, 209.212 209.790 DARLENE: ... Yeah. 209.790 210.557 ANDREW: ... That hurts. 210.557 210.924 @@ 210.924 211.801 DARLENE: @(Hx) @@@@ 211.801 212.662 (H) Punching, 212.662 213.813 ANDREW: (H)[=] 213.086 214.121 DARLENE: [Every time it come up] busy, 214.121 215.122 I'd .. punch redial. 215.122 215.975 ... [And you know], 215.528 215.902 ANDREW: [Hm]. 215.975 216.470 DARLENE: disconnect, 216.470 217.154 and then redial. 217.154 217.636 Disconnect, 217.636 218.029 redial. 218.029 218.399 Disconnect, 218.399 218.823 [redial]. 218.399 219.451 ANDREW: [(H)] Go=[2=d2]. 219.352 220.426 DARLENE: [2And2] then finally I gave up. 220.426 221.124 ANDREW: ... Hm. 221.124 222.211 ... [(TSK) (H)] 221.842 222.247 DARLENE: [Well see], 222.247 222.683 I've got, 222.683 225.558 ... tough fingers from [2all 2] ... stuff, 223.933 224.594 ANDREW: [2(THROAT)2] 225.558 227.337 DARLENE: when you're working the registers so many years, 227.337 227.793 and the[n, 227.632 228.281 ANDREW: [Mhm]? 227.793 228.566 DARLENE: .. now] the- -- 228.566 229.288 .. (H) well, 229.288 232.261 I b- do some of my computer stuff at the (H) computer registers, 232.261 233.814 some of it .. at .. personal computer. 233.814 234.032 But, 234.032 236.293 ... %Uh I got tough fingers. 236.293 236.974 ANDREW: [Yeah=? 236.293 237.900 DARLENE: [@@@@@@ .. @] 236.974 238.525 ANDREW: .. (H) You] must. 238.525 239.104 .. Hm. 239.104 240.658 DARLENE: .. But I never [did get through at that time]. 239.580 241.231 ANDREW: [(TSK) (H) So what'd you get for] Christmas. 241.231 242.505 DARLENE: ... (TSK) Uh=, 242.505 244.106 ~Brenda and ~Danny gave me a pair of earrings, 244.106 245.113 which I have on now? 245.113 245.563 ANDREW: Ah=. 245.563 247.095 DARLENE: (H) I was= .. waiting to put em on, 247.095 248.420 till after I put my shirt over my head, 248.420 248.671 and then, 248.671 250.543 (H) until I saw Patty's earrings, 250.543 250.758 and I said, 250.758 251.407 , 251.407 252.782 (H) cause I saw that hers were pretty, 252.782 253.342 I said oh my gosh, 253.342 254.240 forgot to put my earrings on, 254.240 254.940 so I ran and put em on, 254.940 255.813 ANDREW: ... Hm. 255.813 257.161 DARLENE: A=nd this little figuri=ne, 257.161 258.136 with Santa Clau=s, 258.136 259.487 .. and a little boy and a deer? 259.487 260.085 ANDREW: ... Mm. 260.085 260.654 DARLENE: .. And, 260.654 261.854 ... until ~Brenda pointed it out, 261.854 263.017 %i=t didn't dawn on me what it was. 263.017 266.183 (H) S- the little boy had brought .. the deer .. to Santa Claus, 266.183 267.820 .. Santa Claus was bandaging its foot. 267.820 268.936 ... Its foot was up there, 268.936 269.524 and you could see the, 269.524 270.924 (H) like tape bandage. 270.924 271.514 ANDREW: ... Hm. 271.514 272.347 DARLENE: Santa Claus was putting on. 272.347 272.825 It's real cute. 272.825 274.778 ... And ~Janine gave me money, 274.778 276.625 ANDREW: ... (H) N_good. 276.625 277.440 DARLENE: .. . 278.540 279.092 ANDREW: ... Hm. 279.092 279.259 DARLENE: Oh, 279.259 280.612 ~Mason gave me= uh, 280.612 281.737 ... like a [Chris- -- 281.517 282.325 ANDREW: [Oh] thank you for the-, 282.325 283.125 what you sent. 283.125 284.627 DARLENE: ... (H) Well you're welcome, 284.627 285.720 ANDREW: ... She uh sh- -- 285.720 286.872 I think she spent it yesterday, 286.872 287.787 DARLENE: ... [Yeah (Hx)=, 287.160 288.321 ANDREW: [@= .. @@@@] 287.868 288.159 DARLENE: Well, 288.159 289.087 I'm] no [2good at2], 288.634 289.087 ANDREW: [2(H)2] 289.087 289.637 DARLENE: %= uh, 289.637 290.660 ANDREW: .. (TSK) [Oh you did] great. 289.912 290.414 DARLENE: [I can't] -- 290.660 291.307 ANDREW: ... (H)[2=2] 291.113 291.542 DARLENE: [2I2] can't -- 291.542 292.114 .. I'm no -- 292.114 292.994 .. I'm no good at, 292.994 295.047 ... (H) People tell me stuff, 295.047 296.419 well I knew something ~Brenda wanted, 296.419 298.475 ... she wanted .. a new canister set, 298.475 299.360 like the one she has, 299.360 301.142 .. (H) for a whole five pound bag of sugar, 301.142 302.520 for a whole five pound bag of flour, 302.520 303.842 (H) .. %a fit in the thing, 303.842 304.792 without being opened up. 304.792 305.533 ANDREW: ... Mm. 305.533 306.348 DARLENE: ... A=nd, 306.348 307.325 I looked around a little bit, 307.325 307.779 but I'm not, 307.779 309.024 I'm the world's worst shopper=. 309.024 310.035 .. % Stores bug me, 310.035 311.358 I can't light a cigarette and then=, 311.358 312.504 (H) makes me mad, 312.504 314.383 and I .. turn around and walk out after a little while. 314.383 315.118 ANDREW: .. Mhm? 315.118 316.248 DARLENE: ... A=nd um, 316.248 319.979 ... (H) I knew she wanted that, 319.979 320.204 but, 320.204 321.580 ... I saw something, 321.580 323.465 ... that I [thought she] needed, 322.830 323.240 ANDREW: [(Hx)] 323.465 324.990 DARLENE: that .. she hadn't said she'd needed, 324.990 326.020 (H) that way it'd be, 326.020 326.870 ... a little bit of a surprise, 326.870 327.495 if she hadn't, 327.495 329.106 (H) ... remembered me saying, 329.106 329.287 Oh, 329.287 330.435 you need a breadbox. 330.435 330.900 ANDREW: .. Yeah. 330.900 332.906 DARLENE: .. Cause she just had loaves of bread up on the counter. 332.906 333.983 ... (TSK) (H) A=nd, 333.983 335.058 I guess they eat a lotta bread. 335.058 336.625 ... And there were like two or three loaves of bread, 336.625 337.232 different kinds, 337.232 337.525 open, 337.525 338.819 (H)[=] A=nd, 337.941 338.219 ANDREW: [Mhm]? 338.919 339.980 DARLENE: so that's what I wanted to get em, 339.980 341.298 (H) A=nd uh, 341.298 343.341 ... I kept watching the ads, 343.341 343.548 I thought, 343.548 347.401 well I'll see some place that has ... the kind I'm= looking for .. for em. 347.401 349.161 ... Cause [they've] got dark .. cabinets. 347.901 348.064 ANDREW: [Hm]. 349.161 349.412 DARLENE: Real, 349.412 350.115 .. real dark brown. 350.115 352.197 (H) [As op]posed to my kinda medium brown? 350.616 350.865 ANDREW: [Hm]. 352.197 353.450 DARLENE: ... And so, 353.450 355.250 (H) but all the ones the paper were showing, 355.250 355.875 the early American, 355.875 357.669 the lighter ... maple type wood. 357.669 358.231 ANDREW: ... Yeah. 358.231 359.606 DARLENE: .. (H) Uh=, 359.606 359.983 so, 359.983 360.765 I just gave em a check. 360.765 361.265 And said oh s-, 361.265 364.314 ... Whe- when you see a dark ... dark brown .. breadbox, 364.314 365.163 like your [cabinets, 364.737 365.789 ANDREW: [@ @@@@] 365.163 366.257 DARLENE: that's my Christ]mas present. 366.257 367.278 ANDREW: ... @@ [2(H)2] 366.953 368.010 DARLENE: [2(H)2] ... So=, 368.010 369.090 ... I need to tell her though, 369.090 370.366 if she sees canisters first, 370.366 371.498 she can do that too. 371.498 371.961 ANDREW: .. Yeah. 371.961 373.057 DARLENE: ... But, 373.057 374.113 .. I had an idea, 374.113 374.882 ... of what, 374.882 376.651 ... they could use, 376.651 376.880 but, 376.880 378.763 ... (TSK) (H) and then, 378.763 380.755 ... ~Janine, 380.755 382.787 the only thing she ever wants is Charlie cologne, 382.787 384.765 ... (H) [ any]way (Hx), 383.600 384.151 ANDREW: [Oh really]. 384.765 387.137 DARLENE: .. And [2I never2] got .. around to going to the drug store, 385.003 385.327 ANDREW: [2Hm2]. 387.137 387.640 ... Hm. 387.640 388.575 DARLENE: My store was out, 388.575 390.077 ... or I would've picked it up there, 390.077 390.453 ANDREW: .. Yeah. 390.453 392.655 DARLENE: ... (TSK) (H) And so I just gave her a check. 392.655 393.704 [], 392.840 394.694 ANDREW: [So have you tried the] Vanilla Fields? 394.694 397.437 DARLENE: ... Vanilla Fields ... perfume? 397.437 397.887 [Cologne]? 397.525 397.816 ANDREW: [Mm], 397.887 398.962 ... %= Either one. 398.962 399.893 DARLENE: ... Me? 399.893 400.334 ANDREW: ... Yeah. 400.334 400.791 DARLENE: ... No, 400.791 401.466 I don't use it. 401.466 402.273 ... [Any kind]. 401.785 402.139 ANDREW: [You don't]. 402.273 402.781 ... Hm. 402.781 404.251 DARLENE: .. (TSK) (H) I used to use it, 404.251 404.826 a=nd, 404.826 405.504 ... found -- 405.504 406.107 come to find out, 406.107 407.675 that's one of the things tha=t would give me headaches. 407.675 408.455 ANDREW: .. Oh really. 408.455 409.073 DARLENE: ... Yeah. 409.073 409.822 ANDREW: .. I didn't know that. 409.822 411.773 DARLENE: (H) For a very special occasion, 411.773 412.212 and I mean, 412.212 413.987 it's gotta be .. v=ery special. 413.987 415.693 I didn't even wear it to Jennifer or Ann's wedding. 415.693 416.756 (H) , 416.756 417.958 Shelly or Ann's weddings. 417.958 418.292 ANDREW: [Yeah]. 418.025 418.553 DARLENE: [I didn't e]ven put -- 418.553 419.569 (H) Cause I didn't wanna, 419.569 420.277 ... go to, 420.277 422.264 (H) ... a wedding and a reception, 422.264 423.457 and have a headache the [whole] time, 422.838 423.062 ANDREW: [TSK] 423.457 424.798 DARLENE: (H) [2So I don't know when I'd2] wear it. 423.840 424.448 ANDREW: [2(TSK) I didn't realize2]. 424.798 425.620 DARLENE: I don't [3know when3]. 425.263 425.524 ANDREW: [3Hm3]. 425.620 426.420 DARLENE: ... @(Hx) @@@ 426.420 426.736 ANDREW: .. [Hm]. 426.597 427.805 DARLENE: [(H)] I've got some here still, 427.805 428.055 [2but2], 427.809 429.161 ANDREW: [2(H)2] And ~Janine likes Charlie. 429.161 429.391 Hunh? 429.391 430.996 DARLENE: .. ~Janine uses Charlie all the time. 430.996 431.746 ANDREW: ... Hunh. 431.746 432.336 DARLENE: ... And, 432.336 432.579 you know, 432.579 433.834 % it's %a= nice fragrance, 433.834 434.860 it's not real expensive, 434.860 435.010 and, 435.010 437.807 .. (H)[=]= I'd give it to her (Hx), 435.435 435.807 ANDREW: [Hm]. 437.807 438.832 DARLENE: most of the time for, 438.832 439.932 ... her birthday, 439.932 440.861 and then for Christmas and, 440.861 441.993 ... and then, 441.993 443.341 mommy and daddy used to give her=, 443.341 444.738 (H) .. uh=, 444.738 445.319 a bottle, 445.319 446.194 or Mary and Hank, 446.194 446.519 or, 446.519 448.300 ... one time they gave her a little gift set with, 448.300 451.312 (H) ... cologne and dusting powder in it or something and, 451.312 451.900 ANDREW: ... Mhm? 451.900 453.040 DARLENE: And it's always Charlie and, 453.040 454.481 she said well now= I got my year's supply, 454.481 455.261 I don't have to buy any, 455.261 456.637 ANDREW: ... @@@@@ 456.637 457.342 DARLENE: ... [So]. 456.935 458.402 ANDREW: [(H)]= 458.402 460.480 ... (TSK) (H) So how's [Maggie do-] -- 459.866 460.495 DARLENE: [Oh uh=], 460.505 461.458 ANDREW: ... Hm? 461.458 462.473 DARLENE: Shelly gave me uh, 462.473 464.800 ... . 464.800 469.241 ... (TSK) (H) Judy gave me a picture, 469.241 471.166 of her= and John together in this, 471.166 472.466 .. (H) I don't know, 472.466 473.508 I don't think its sterling silver, 473.508 474.778 it might a pewter frame? 474.778 475.256 ANDREW: .. M[hm]? 475.063 475.863 DARLENE: [It's real] nice? 475.863 476.296 ANDREW: .. Yeah? 476.296 477.383 DARLENE: ... A=nd, 477.383 478.362 what did Shelly give me. 478.362 479.592 I think she gave me the ornament? 479.592 480.659 .. (H) No, 480.659 482.298 the ornament was on the outside of the package, 482.298 483.343 one that they ma=de. 483.343 483.861 ANDREW: ... Hm. 483.861 486.400 DARLENE: .. (H) They made the cutest gingerbread ornaments. 486.400 487.253 ... (H) They % -- 487.253 487.654 Well, 487.654 488.241 they uh, 488.241 490.144 ... I guess they're= like uh, 490.144 491.773 ... plaster, 491.773 492.398 or something, 492.398 493.247 they painted em and, 493.247 493.897 they're real cute. 493.897 494.099 Got -- 494.099 495.117 [I hung] mine on the tree, 494.099 494.381 ANDREW: [Yeah]? 495.117 497.066 DARLENE: (H)= I got home and then um, 497.066 499.454 ... ~Janine's was still sitting there. 499.454 500.658 So I hung hers on the tree for her. 500.658 501.855 .. (H) Uh=, 501.855 504.307 ... I use Oil of Olay products, 504.307 507.059 and she got me Oil of Olay ... moisturizer, 507.059 509.312 and Oil of away- .. Olay face wash. 509.312 509.863 ANDREW: ... Hm. 509.863 511.140 DARLENE: ... (H) A=nd, 511.140 511.909 ... when I opened it up, 511.909 512.126 I said, 512.126 513.509 . 513.509 514.460 .. (H) ~Brenda said, 514.460 514.722 yeah, 514.722 516.022 she stole my idea. 516.022 517.525 [Cause that's what] ~Brenda had given me [2last @year, 516.047 516.427 ANDREW: [(Hx)] 517.106 518.102 [2(Hx) @@@@2] 517.425 519.301 DARLENE: @@@2]@@ @[3@ 518.854 520.527 ANDREW: [3@(H) (Hx) .. 3]. 519.301 519.926 DARLENE: (H) Yeah, 519.926 521.770 might as well be3] something somebody'll use. 521.770 522.369 ANDREW: ... Yeah. 522.369 523.158 DARLENE: ... [So. 522.954 523.814 ANDREW: [(H) Hunh]. 523.518 524.169 DARLENE: How about] y'all. 524.169 524.784 What'd you all do? 524.784 526.159 ANDREW: ... (H) Ng_let's see. 526.159 528.955 I got uh== VCR= tape, 528.955 529.448 the movie, 529.448 530.523 A River Runs Through It? 530.523 531.988 DARLENE: ... [Hm]. 531.738 532.465 ANDREW: [Have you] seen that? 532.465 533.011 DARLENE: No [2I2] -- 532.901 533.869 ANDREW: [2It's a2]bout fly fishing? 533.894 534.872 DARLENE: ... Oh, 534.872 535.145 @@ 535.145 536.247 ANDREW: [@ (Hx)=] 535.145 535.594 DARLENE: [<@ No, 535.594 536.168 I haven't seen it @>]. 536.247 536.722 ANDREW: .. @No, 536.722 537.400 you should [see it]. 537.067 537.400 >ENV: [<? 543.117 545.376 ... (H) It's Robert Redford], 545.376 547.056 and they're= fly fishing and so on, 547.056 547.511 >ENV: MIC_NOISE>> 547.511 548.686 ANDREW: ... . 548.686 551.789 ... (H) ... (TSK) (H) .. Uh=, 551.789 552.841 I bumped something here and, 552.841 553.896 .. messed up a cord. 553.896 554.881 (H) Uh, 554.881 557.885 ... (TSK) ... Mm (Hx). 557.885 558.160 And, 558.160 558.971 what else did I have. 558.971 560.901 >ENV: ... <ENV: [MIC_NOISE>>] 566.116 567.811 ANDREW: ... %- .. all these -- 567.811 569.192 ... W- plain cotton? 569.192 571.907 (H)= It's blue with .. [white stripes]? 571.027 571.907 >ENV: [<4]. 595.114 596.490 ANDREW: [4@=4]@@@@ 596.490 596.791 DARLENE: What do [5you think, 596.591 597.567 ANDREW: [5(H) (Hx)5] 596.791 598.059 DARLENE: they're putting the make on you5] or something? 598.059 598.460 ANDREW: No. 598.460 601.466 ... (H) ... But I don't wanna give em any reason to. 601.466 602.338 ... (TSK) (H) [So], 602.020 602.338 >ENV: [MIC_NOISE>>] 602.020 602.574 DARLENE: [Oh]=. 602.574 604.140 ANDREW: ... @=@@@ .. @ 604.140 605.169 ... [I literally] stopped wearing, 604.140 604.625 DARLENE: [XXX] 605.169 606.344 ANDREW: one blue shirt to work, 606.344 607.652 .. because they all commented on it. 607.652 608.164 @[=] 607.836 608.165 DARLENE: [Hm]. 608.165 609.367 ANDREW: (TSK) (H)= .. Uh=, 609.367 610.528 I mean I'm very sensitive about that, 610.528 611.612 I won't put up with that bullshit. 611.612 613.018 (H) .. U=m (Hx), 613.018 613.397 (TSK) Let's see, 613.397 613.943 what else did I get. 613.943 614.944 (H) I got socks. 614.944 615.816 I got underwear, 615.816 617.896 ... (H) a=nd uh, 617.896 619.048 CINDY: ... The [tie]? 618.377 619.549 ANDREW: [(H)] ... Oh. 619.549 620.152 A tie, 620.152 622.437 ... The- [I got the t]ie so they can comment on . 620.640 621.066 CINDY: []? 622.437 624.564 ANDREW: %= It's got horses and ducks [2and, 624.225 625.388 DARLENE: [2@=@@@@2] 624.564 627.827 ANDREW: (H)2] I got it specifically so they can comment about it. 627.827 628.245 DARLENE: [3Hm3]? 627.893 628.648 ANDREW: [3(TSK) (H)3] [4Yeah, 628.351 629.121 CINDY: [4A book4]? 628.648 629.021 ANDREW: I mean it's the k-4] -- 629.021 630.672 .. %(Hx) I got me a book, 630.672 631.298 .. (H)=[=] 631.182 631.850 CINDY: [A] saw? 631.850 632.302 a ha- -- 632.302 633.427 a [.. screwdriver]? 632.556 633.081 ANDREW: [Oh God, 633.081 633.333 yeah, 633.333 634.419 I] got a skill saw, 634.419 636.217 ... (H) and I got a power drill, 636.217 637.707 ... I haven't tried out my power [drill yet]. 637.366 639.020 DARLENE: [I thought] you [2had that kinda stuff already2]. 637.965 639.020 CINDY: [2No a s=crewdriver2]. 639.020 639.963 ANDREW: (H) .. Well the- -- 639.963 640.663 the ski- -- 640.663 641.238 uh (Hx), 641.238 641.680 . 642.396 643.124 u=m, 643.124 645.823 .. (TSK) (H) I never would buy the power screwdriver, 645.823 647.750 because I figured they were too expensive. 647.750 648.102 ... [And, 647.983 648.285 DARLENE: [Yeah], 648.102 649.252 ANDREW: so] they found it on sale. 649.252 650.048 Black and Decker, 650.048 651.735 (H) and got me that for Christmas, 651.735 652.286 (H)[=] 651.945 653.122 DARLENE: [Is it a re]chargeable .. [2thing2]? 652.948 653.401 ANDREW: [2Oh2] yeah. 653.401 653.719 [3yeah3]. 653.448 653.697 DARLENE: [33]. 653.719 655.003 ANDREW: ... And then= u=m, 655.003 656.431 ... (TSK) ... uh=, 656.431 658.096 my skill saw= broke (Hx), 658.096 659.092 ... mm=. 659.092 661.010 ... Six or eight years ago? 661.010 662.578 (H) So they got me a new skill [saw]. 662.241 663.655 CINDY: [I guess] I didn't know it was [2broken2]. 663.330 665.061 ANDREW: [2(TSK) (H)2] .. (H) .. A=nd uh, 665.061 665.949 ... what else. 665.949 666.851 CINDY: ... Some underwear? 666.851 667.566 ANDREW: .. (H) Yeah, 667.566 668.445 underwear socks. 668.445 670.167 ... (H) [Some-] -- 669.837 670.719 DARLENE: [What'd you get] [2the kids2]. 669.837 671.825 CINDY: [2] [3after you get out of the shower3]. 670.719 672.409 ANDREW: [3(H) What did we get3] the kids. 672.409 672.725 Let's see, 672.725 674.357 we got .. ~Kevin a camera, 674.357 676.059 .. (H) And we [got him, 675.439 676.918 CINDY: [You went crazy on ~Kevin]. 676.360 678.615 ANDREW: (H)] and we got him an upgrade (Hx), 678.615 680.327 ... from uh=, 680.327 681.327 .. (H) course he got his new -- 681.327 682.400 He bought his new computer. 682.400 682.658 That's -- 682.658 683.260 He bought that. 683.260 684.541 (H)= Bu=t, 684.541 686.199 we got him am upg- upgra=de, 686.199 687.181 o=f Word Perfect, 687.181 689.117 from five point one to six point o, 689.117 689.648 .. and, 689.648 690.540 put it under Windows. 690.540 691.841 He's got Windows on his machine, 691.841 693.705 (TSK) [(H)]= Uh=, 692.335 692.557 DARLENE: [Hm]. 693.705 695.724 ANDREW: So he's= using the current stuff now. 695.724 695.857 He -- 695.857 697.619 I don't even have it that fancy at work. 697.619 698.237 DARLENE: ... [Mhm]. 697.936 699.139 ANDREW: [And I got] a high-powered machine. 699.164 699.671 [2(H)2] 699.164 699.671 DARLENE: [2So Wor-2] -- 699.671 700.582 At work they=, 700.582 701.557 usually give you the=, 701.557 702.882 least one you can get by [with]. 702.645 703.760 ANDREW: [(TSK) (H)]= .. No, 703.760 705.180 they've= learned over the years, 705.180 706.187 they're getting fancier there, 706.187 707.988 I think .. we're gonna go to six point O next year, 707.988 708.687 but I'm not sure. 708.687 710.299 ... (TSK) (H) .. And let's see. 710.299 711.361 (H) .. Uh= what [did we get] -- 711.013 712.014 CINDY: [Finished] his afghan, 712.014 713.116 ANDREW: ... (H) Oh, 713.116 714.742 ~Cindy finished off his afghan. 714.742 715.831 He= started complaining, 715.831 716.831 about three weeks ago, 716.831 717.818 he was cold out there, 717.818 719.665 ... apparently they= build the buildings, 719.665 720.866 and don't put any insulation in. 720.866 723.224 ... (TSK) (H)[=] Cause they don't expect it to get cold. 721.400 721.617 DARLENE: [Mm]. 723.224 724.041 ANDREW: .. But he was cold. 724.041 725.470 (H) .. A=nd uh=, 725.470 726.639 it was getting down in=, 726.639 729.167 CINDY: ... We [gave him a tape with all the Simpsons on it], 727.181 727.657 ANDREW: [Mm=, 727.657 728.607 upper thirties=, 728.607 729.532 ... low] forties. 729.532 730.702 (H)[2= Gave him2] a tape, 729.779 730.234 DARLENE: [2Y_unhunh2]. 730.752 731.681 ANDREW: they've been recording, 731.681 732.381 faithfully re- -- 732.381 732.981 every week, 732.981 734.540 recording= all the Simpsons, 734.540 735.960 (H)= a=nd uh, 735.960 737.360 editing out all the commercials. 737.360 738.090 [So they gave him that]. 737.360 738.680 CINDY: [And a Simpsons] cal[2endar2], 738.380 740.274 ANDREW: [2(H) (TSK)2] (H) .. and a Simpsons calendar, 740.274 740.738 [3let's3] [4see l-4] -- 740.310 741.651 CINDY: [3Oh3] [4and a4] [5care package5], 740.413 741.651 DARLENE: [4A t4][5ape of what5]? 741.651 742.227 ANDREW: ... Hunh? 742.227 743.242 DARLENE: ... With what, 743.242 744.417 .. the commercials taped out? 744.417 747.524 ANDREW: ... (H) ... All the Simpsons shows? 747.524 748.884 DARLENE: ... Oh Simpsons. 748.884 749.207 ANDREW: Yeah. 749.207 750.447 DARLENE: ... [Okay]. 750.074 752.298 ANDREW: [And- and-] they edited out all the .. commercials, 752.298 753.475 .. (H) so he's got, 753.475 753.734 what. 753.734 754.682 .. Three hours, 754.682 754.957 of, 754.957 755.933 ... or four hours, 755.933 757.108 of nothing but [solid s- -- 756.783 757.518 CINDY: [Could be six]. 757.108 758.539 ANDREW: (H)] Maybe six hours, 758.539 759.189 because they did [2it -- 759.040 759.875 CINDY: [2It's on the slow speed2]. 759.189 760.753 ANDREW: .. (H)2] .. on the slow speed, 760.753 761.078 of, 761.078 762.306 .. nothing but the Simpsons, 762.306 764.099 CINDY: .. And [then he got that] care package, 762.659 763.273 ANDREW: [(TSK) (H)] 764.099 764.460 (H) Oh, 764.460 766.310 and then we got him a New Mexico care package, 766.310 767.355 they got a store here=, 767.355 768.319 a New Mexico store, 768.319 769.799 where= all these things made, 769.799 770.488 ... uh=, 770.488 771.191 you know in the state? 771.191 772.091 .. (H) They sell, 772.091 772.727 so we got him, 772.727 775.325 (H) .. uh= a little thing of honey=, 775.325 775.588 and, 775.588 776.111 ...

. 776.557 777.582 CINDY: Those pistachio nuts, 777.582 778.532 with [green chili], 777.747 777.899 ANDREW: [Oh, 777.899 780.093 pistachio] mu- uh nuts with= uh, 780.093 781.093 the green chili on th[2em2]. 780.893 782.728 CINDY: [2And2] some [3kinda3] chili mustard -- 781.338 781.655 DARLENE: [3Mm3]. 782.728 784.495 ANDREW: ... And a ch- some kinda chili [4mustard4], 783.959 784.875 CINDY: [4Chili honey4] mus[5tard, 784.784 786.339 ANDREW: [5(TSK) Chili hon5]ey mustard or something. 784.875 785.385 CINDY: or something5]. 786.339 786.699 ANDREW: .. Anyway, 786.699 787.454 so he'll remember. 787.454 788.381 .. (TSK) (H)= Uh=, 788.381 788.857 let's see. 788.857 790.111 And then ~Lisa got a coat, 790.111 791.662 she's been needing a winter coat. 791.662 792.720 (H)= .. A=nd, 792.720 793.748 some slacks, 793.748 795.095 CINDY: And a [pair of sweats], 794.177 794.775 ANDREW: [(H) Oh, 794.775 796.547 and got] her= uh Aladdin, 796.547 797.793 ... she's been wanting [2Ala-2] -- 797.499 798.121 DARLENE: [2Oh the mo2]vie? 798.121 798.694 ANDREW: ... Hunh? 798.694 799.264 DARLENE: ... The movie? 799.264 799.516 ANDREW: Yeah. 799.516 800.024 ... Yeah. 800.024 800.977 ... (TSK) So, 800.977 804.125 ... (H) So when she wants to= sit here and blob out some afternoon, 804.125 805.000 if she ever gets one, 805.000 806.444 she can put Aladdin on and wa[tch it. 806.239 807.166 DARLENE: [@@@@@@] 806.671 808.326 ANDREW: .. (H) Rou]nd trip and so on. 808.326 808.626 So, 808.626 809.948 .. (TSK) (H)= let's see. 809.948 810.625 What did Cathy get. 810.625 812.660 She got the sweater- red sweater she's wearing now, 812.660 814.063 ... (TSK) (H) .. Uh, 814.063 814.893 ...

, 814.893 815.543 so [much I c- P>] -- 815.035 816.644 CINDY: [~Lisa got] a whole bunch more stuff [2than2] -- 816.540 816.820 ANDREW: [2(TSK)2] Yeah, 816.820 817.840 what did= .. you get though. 817.840 818.922 CINDY: ... . 818.922 819.325 ANDREW: .. Oh. 819.325 820.406 ... Books=[=, 820.315 821.195 CINDY: [And CD's], 820.406 821.664 ANDREW: (H) A=nd] [2CD2] -- 821.245 821.997 DARLENE: [2What kinda book2]s. 821.997 822.963 ANDREW: ... What kind[3a book- -- 822.599 822.934 DARLENE: [3Cause, 822.934 824.434 cause you said you got a3] book too. 822.963 823.515 ANDREW: . 823.515 823.742 %3] -- 824.434 824.962 .. Huh hunh? 824.962 826.588 DARLENE: ... You said you got a [book too. 826.588 827.256 ANDREW: [(H) .. Well], 826.723 827.256 DARLENE: ]. 827.256 828.104 ANDREW: you wouldn't wanna know %. 828.104 829.623 Mine is called uh uh=, 829.623 832.686 S=even Habits of Effective People or something like this? 832.686 833.000 DARLENE: %Oh. 833.000 834.412 ANDREW: (H) bullshit stuff. 834.412 834.639 @None- -- 834.639 835.304 @No @fun @stuff. 835.304 835.529 @@ 835.529 835.880 DARLENE: @@ 835.880 836.181 CINDY: [XX] 835.939 836.810 ANDREW: [Mine]'s pure work. 836.810 837.775 (H) Hold on, 837.775 839.205 ~Cindy'[s gonna tell you about her books]. 838.103 838.759 CINDY: [, 838.759 840.034 I don't e][2ven know for2] [3sure3]. 839.205 839.633 DARLENE: [2Okay2], 839.633 841.364 ANDREW: [3(H) Sh3]e's gonna ga- grab her books. 841.364 842.173 She's got so many -- 842.173 843.801 But she got about five or six books, 843.801 846.919 (H)= (COUGH) And a bunch of CD's, 846.919 849.761 ... (SWALLOW) A=pparently Frank Sinatra. 849.761 850.882 .. They did duets? 850.882 851.859 DARLENE: ... With who. 851.859 852.735 ANDREW: ... We=ll, 852.735 853.735 they did a whole bunch of people. 853.735 854.496 What they did is, 854.496 855.496 Frank did his singing, 855.496 856.116 and then they, 856.116 857.966 (H) had these other people sing along, 857.966 858.820 ... [separate]ly? 858.297 858.651 DARLENE: [] -- 858.820 860.073 ANDREW: Barbara Streisand and so on? 860.073 860.617 DARLENE: ... [Hm]. 860.492 862.216 ANDREW: [(TSK)] (H)= .. And it's called Duets, 862.216 862.993 and she's got [2that, 862.756 863.500 CINDY: [2Okay I got2], 863.417 863.991 ANDREW: .. (H) H2]old on, 863.991 864.975 CINDY: [3Days of Grace3], 863.991 864.318 ANDREW [3I'm gonna, 864.468 865.383 (H) Just3] a minute, 865.383 866.670 I'm gonna let ~Cindy tell you. 866.670 867.072 Hold on. 867.072 867.684 DARLENE: ... Okay. 867.684 869.393 CINDY: ... Hi, 869.393 870.397 Who am I talking [to]. 870.159 870.861 DARLENE: [This is] [2~Darlee2]. 870.505 870.852 ANDREW: [2~Darlene2]. 870.505 871.505 CINDY: [2.. (H)2]= . 871.970 872.546 DARLENE: Oh [fine]. 872.321 873.418 CINDY: [(H)] Merry Christmas[2=. 873.290 874.308 DARLENE: [2Merry Christmas 2]. 873.418 874.300 CINDY: (H) Okay2]. 874.308 874.700 One thing, 874.700 875.538 we joined a book club. 875.538 876.759 And I got it for hardly any money, 876.759 877.011 you know, 877.011 878.142 they'll send you all these free books, 878.142 879.215 all you have to do is do postage, 879.215 880.520 (H) and then supposedly, 880.520 882.020 you don't have to u=m (Hx), 882.020 883.645 .. (TSK) (H) buy any more books, 883.645 884.820 but they want you to (Hx). 884.820 886.217 [So I got like f=]ive of em. 884.874 885.639 DARLENE: [Yeah I know]. 886.217 886.798 CINDY: (H) Okay, 886.798 888.452 I got Days of Grace Arthur Ashe, 888.452 890.087 and then I got that Molly Ives, 890.087 891.315 uh Nothing but Good Times, 891.315 892.660 (H) and let's see, 892.660 895.341 Medi=eval (Hx) Ci- uh Civilization (Hx), 895.341 896.428 .. [%= (H)] 895.472 895.798 DARLENE: [Ew. 895.791 897.145 I didn't know you liked] that kin[2da stuff2]. 896.722 897.077 CINDY: [2Yeah, 897.077 897.781 I2] like history, 897.781 898.221 and then, 898.221 898.831 uh (Hx), 898.831 899.255 the uh, 899.255 900.998 (H) Official and Confidential, 900.998 902.342 it's a (Hx)[=. 903.882 904.364 DARLENE: [Oh=, 904.142 905.772 CINDY: (H) A=nd th- (Hx) -- 904.364 904.741 DARLENE: @@ 904.741 905.772 That should be interesting. 905.772 906.058 CINDY: H- % -- 905.931 906.151 DARLENE: @@] 906.058 906.385 CINDY: Yeah]=. 906.385 906.561 Th- -- 906.561 907.336 Oh he's supposed to be, 907.336 907.486 you know, 907.486 908.287 a closet everything. 908.287 908.773 [(H)] 908.376 908.826 DARLENE: [Yeah]. 908.826 909.826 CINDY: [2@@2]@@ 908.993 909.379 ANDREW: [2@@2] 909.826 910.789 CINDY: .. (H) and the[3=n, 910.622 911.275 ANDREW: [3XX3] 910.789 911.617 CINDY: Audrey Hep3]burn, 911.617 913.397 .. (H) A=nd uh=, 913.397 914.499 then the kids got me, 914.499 914.680 uh, 914.680 915.700 ~Kevin got me one, 915.700 917.051 Don't Know Much about Geography? 917.051 918.303 ... (TSK) (H) 918.303 919.332 DARLENE: ... [The name of] it's, 918.737 919.140 CINDY: [

]. 919.332 920.557 DARLENE: I Don't Know [2Much about Geo2]graphy? 919.740 920.241 CINDY: [2(H)2] 920.557 920.959 Yeah. 920.959 921.626 Don't Know Much -- 921.626 922.447 You know that song? 922.447 923.574 (H) .. Don't [know m-] -- 923.309 923.622 DARLENE: [Yeah]? 923.622 924.003 CINDY: [2Yeah. 923.666 924.992 DARLENE: [22] -- 925.372 925.983 CINDY: (H) Yeah. 925.983 926.519 And this2] guy, 926.519 926.728 %uh -- 926.728 927.478 wrote a book about, 927.478 928.653 Don't Know Much about History either. 928.653 929.411 (Hx)= So, 929.411 929.939 he's written, 929.939 930.101 you know, 930.101 931.355 quite a few I Don't Know Much. 931.355 931.532 Yeah. 931.532 932.255 .. (TSK) (H)[=] 931.851 932.401 DARLENE: [@@]@ 932.401 932.808 CINDY: Yeah (Hx), 932.808 934.061 so I (Hx)= think- I got that one. 934.061 934.340 Yeah. 934.340 934.520 (TSK) 934.520 935.261 DARLENE: Well there's a uh=, 935.261 935.694 I don't know, 935.694 937.120 do you go out shopping very often? 937.120 937.578 CINDY: (H)[=] 937.395 938.328 DARLENE: [Like] to the mall or anything? 938.328 938.607 CINDY: Well, 938.607 939.496 we go out, 939.496 941.221 S=aturday morning to breakfast. 941.221 942.580 (H) Every Saturday, 942.580 943.658 a=d the place we go, 943.658 944.208 is on, 944.208 945.787 (H) in the pyramid area, 945.787 947.424 where they have kinda like a food court. 947.424 949.792 ... So we're .. in the mall .. at least once a week. 949.792 950.644 DARLENE: .. [Unhunh]? 949.942 951.596 CINDY: [(H)] Which is . 951.596 952.459 [2@(Hx) @2] 951.596 952.250 DARLENE: [2 -- 952.250 953.020 I watched] Donahue. 953.020 953.782 Well I didn't watch it, 953.782 954.313 I went to work, 954.313 955.113 I taped it and, 955.113 956.350 (H) when I came home I watched it. 956.350 956.967 And they had a, 956.967 958.828 ... show on about uh=, 958.828 961.807 ... mostly about doctors, 961.807 963.112 and then hospitals too? 963.112 963.539 CINDY: .. Unhunh? 963.539 965.295 DARLENE: ... Horror-story type things? 965.295 965.893 CINDY: Oh joy[=]. 965.708 966.777 DARLENE: [Remem]ber that book y'all sent, 966.777 968.064 Worst Pills Best Pills? 968.064 968.666 CINDY: Oh yeah. 968.666 970.659 DARLENE: ... I don't know if they're the same guys, 970.659 972.260 but this .. is ... Best -- 972.260 972.810 ... uh, 972.810 974.229 .. Good Surgery Bad Surgery. 974.229 975.643 CINDY: ... (H) Oh is it Wolfe? 975.643 976.620 Is his last name Wolfe? 976.620 977.455 DARLENE: I d[on't know. 976.883 977.950 CINDY: [(H) Is he one of w-, 977.455 978.534 DARLENE: ne=ver] -- 977.950 979.325 CINDY: .. uh Na]der's raiders? 979.325 980.857 DARLENE: ... It wasn't -- 980.857 981.297 % Uh=, 981.297 982.423 Ralph Nader wasn't on the show, 982.423 983.615 and I never heard him mentioned. 983.615 984.683 CINDY: ... Oh[=]. 984.539 985.150 DARLENE: [But] this guy, 985.150 985.950 was some kinda, 985.950 988.412 ... (TSK) (H) Oh I wrote it down. 988.412 989.530 Medical society, 989.530 991.499 but it's not connected to the medical profession, 991.499 993.797 it's like a= medical investigating place? 993.797 994.718 CINDY: ... Oh=, 994.718 995.399 that [sounds like a good] -- 994.844 995.508 DARLENE: [U=m], 995.508 996.544 CINDY: ... (TSK) (H) 996.544 996.901 DARLENE: .. Because, 996.901 998.223 like they have one guy on there, 998.223 1000.079 ... (H) Uh= (Hx), 1000.079 1002.250 .. he went in for arthroscopic surgery on his knee, 1002.250 1002.602 almo- -- 1002.602 1003.889 he had last rites twice. 1003.889 1004.691 And all kinds of stuff. 1004.691 1005.120 CINDY: Unhunh. 1005.120 1006.453 DARLENE: (H) And he got so bad, 1006.453 1009.792 ... The doctor di=d him the way that one doctor did you? 1009.792 1010.979 .. Operate and then leave? 1010.979 1011.382 CINDY: .. Yeah. 1011.382 1011.940 DARLENE: .. Town? 1011.940 1013.472 (H) A=nd, 1013.472 1014.041 ... (TSK) anyway, 1014.041 1014.897 he almost died. 1014.897 1015.757 (H)= Too. 1015.757 1016.673 He almost died twice. 1016.673 1017.236 Evidently, 1017.236 1018.586 .. they gave him= last rites twice. 1018.586 1019.320 CINDY: ... Yeah[=], 1019.155 1020.081 DARLENE: [But] u=m, 1020.081 1023.193 ... (TSK) (H) uh=, 1023.193 1024.481 ... just -- 1024.481 1025.611 .. They held up the book, 1025.611 1026.336 but they didn't say, 1026.336 1027.640 (H) who wrote it, 1027.640 1028.291 .. they didn't -- 1028.291 1029.118 .. I told ~Janine, 1029.118 1031.011 I wish they'd ... given that address, 1031.011 1032.414 you can send a=nd write off for it. 1032.414 1033.341 CINDY: (H) You know I wish, 1033.341 1034.096 that a lot of times, 1034.096 1034.671 it seems like, 1034.671 1035.081 when I'll, 1035.081 1036.253 (H) I won't care about, 1036.253 1038.411 introduce something on the .. Today Show or something, 1038.411 1039.602 and they'll be talking about a book, 1039.602 1040.357 or an album, 1040.357 1040.924 or a CD, 1040.924 1041.463 or anything you know? 1041.463 1042.323 (H) And I don't -- 1042.323 1043.199 They give it in the beginning, 1043.199 1044.341 and I don't really care that much. 1044.341 1044.622 And then, 1044.622 1045.653 (H) when they're done, 1045.653 1046.773 they don't tell you what it is again. 1046.773 1047.325 DARLENE: .. [Yeah]. 1047.112 1047.852 CINDY: [And] then I n- -- 1047.852 1048.507 Then I care. 1048.507 1049.098 ... (H) You know? 1049.098 1049.503 DARLENE: ... Yeah[=]. 1049.251 1049.928 CINDY: [(H)] Yeah, 1049.928 1050.765 and that [2s- sounds like-2] -- 1050.102 1051.085 DARLENE: [2(TSK) (H) Well beca2]use -- 1051.085 1051.352 .. No, 1051.352 1052.528 I had this on tape though. 1052.528 1053.529 And they never did, 1053.529 1055.056 .. (H) [I think they in]troduced the guy, 1053.729 1054.279 CINDY: [Period]. 1055.056 1057.111 DARLENE: but they didn't say he= was the one who wrote the book, 1057.111 1058.215 CINDY: ... [Hm]. 1057.762 1058.275 DARLENE: [(H) All] -- 1058.275 1059.200 so all I got out of it, 1059.200 1060.770 was the name of .. the book. 1060.770 1061.509 CINDY: (H) You know what, 1061.509 1062.862 if you go down to m- -- 1062.862 1064.038 a lot of those book stores, 1064.038 1065.448 I'll bet you they'd track it by name. 1065.448 1066.536 .. (H)[=] And, 1065.770 1066.072 DARLENE: [Yeah]. 1066.536 1066.795 CINDY: you know, 1066.795 1067.290 you could find, 1067.290 1067.617 cause you don't -- 1067.617 1068.735 You can .. do it either way. 1068.735 1068.998 Yeah. 1068.998 1070.451 DARLENE: Not that I'm planning on %having surge- -- 1070.451 1072.847 (H) Well I th=ought of going back to an orthopedic doctor, 1072.847 1074.688 and seeing if they could do anything about my foot or my ankle, 1074.688 1076.330 whatever it [is that's] .. giving me trou[2ble2], 1075.093 1075.444 CINDY: [Yeah]. 1076.172 1076.743 [2(H)2] You know, 1076.743 1077.551 I thank God, 1077.551 1077.964 be[cause they w- -- 1077.683 1078.218 DARLENE: [(COUGH)] 1077.964 1079.114 CINDY: you know how] they've been talking about, 1079.114 1080.999 (H) .. what was it those uh screws, 1080.999 1081.527 that they w- % -- 1081.527 1082.176 They're okay, 1082.176 1083.545 for different parts of the body, 1083.545 1084.047 but then they- -- 1084.047 1087.060 (H) Some of these d- orthopedic surgeons were going and putting em in the back, 1087.060 1087.811 DARLENE: ... [Mm]? 1087.516 1089.200 CINDY: [(H)] And they're just .. deadly. 1089.200 1091.583 I mean these people are just in unbelievable .. agony. 1091.583 1092.326 (H)[= And-] -- 1091.851 1092.352 DARLENE: [Well they=] -- 1092.352 1092.909 What about that, 1092.909 1093.409 .. uh=, 1093.409 1095.653 people being operated on on their jaw? 1095.653 1097.013 CINDY: ... Oh[=]. 1096.628 1097.660 DARLENE: [That tem]poral stuff? 1097.660 1098.265 CINDY: ... And they would -- 1098.265 1099.711 DARLENE: ... And they're putting in this stuff, 1099.711 1101.417 that would- had never been tested, 1101.417 1103.568 CINDY: ... I don't understand this s[ometimes]. 1102.981 1104.538 DARLENE: [It was some kinda] Teflon material, 1104.538 1106.843 it had never been tested on animals even, 1106.843 1107.543 or anything. 1107.543 1108.141 CINDY: ... Hunh. 1108.141 1109.119 DARLENE: And this guy started, 1109.119 1110.044 it was a doctor? 1110.044 1111.303 .. (H) He invented it? 1111.303 1112.563 .. And started his own business, 1112.563 1114.000 and [sold it to other doctors], 1112.723 1114.000 CINDY: [(GASP)= Oh], 1114.000 1114.571 wait a second. 1114.571 1115.053 U=m, 1115.053 1116.600 .. Was that just recently on the news? 1116.600 1117.373 Because that se- -- 1117.373 1119.226 .. Or was it okayed [.. (H) for-] -- 1118.504 1119.959 DARLENE: [(TSK) (H) It was] on uh=, 1119.959 1120.662 .. like one of these, 1120.662 1120.800 uh, 1120.800 1121.526 Forty-eight Hours, 1121.526 1122.397 or something like that. 1122.397 1123.283 CINDY: ... Yeah. 1123.283 1124.917 I wonder if I saw similar report. 1124.917 1126.575 Because that really sounded familiar. 1126.575 1127.487 DARLENE: ... A=nd, 1127.487 1129.791 ... they- they had some people there who had had the surgery, 1129.791 1130.021 and like, 1130.021 1131.540 (H) .. [this one day- uh % l]=ady, 1130.345 1131.246 ANDREW: [(COUGH)] 1131.540 1132.040 DARLENE: all she -- 1132.040 1133.046 ... She was in so much pain, 1133.046 1134.773 all she could do was curl up in bed all the time, 1134.773 1135.324 CINDY: ... Yeah, 1135.324 1136.626 DARLENE: ... A=[=nd], 1136.144 1138.322 CINDY: [(TSK) (H)] .. That sounds like those screws things that, 1138.322 1139.285 the one I was telling you abo[ut. 1139.265 1139.593 DARLENE: []. 1139.285 1139.592 CINDY: yeah]. 1139.593 1140.137 DARLENE: (H) Well I don't know, 1140.137 1140.492 these -- 1140.492 1142.851 ... I think they called em hinges or something. 1142.851 1143.807 CINDY: ... Hm. 1143.807 1145.015 DARLENE: ... %So= %u=m, 1145.015 1145.952 CINDY: ... Terrifying. 1145.952 1147.805 ... (TSK) [(H) I don't]. 1146.749 1147.295 DARLENE: [@@ 1147.295 1147.797 You know], 1147.805 1148.620 CINDY: .. [2(H) Well, 1148.018 1150.822 DARLENE: [2I very .. brie2]fly thought of having my jaw fixed for -- 1148.620 1148.850 CINDY: %Uh-2] -- 1150.822 1153.541 DARLENE: ... See my bottom jaw doesn't come up quite far enough? 1153.541 1153.945 CINDY: .. Yeah. 1153.945 1155.170 DARLENE: ... A=nd u=m, 1155.170 1156.272 CINDY: ... (H) I [tell] you -- 1155.789 1156.040 DARLENE: [] -- 1156.272 1157.766 CINDY: .. I'm gonna have to be in a really bi- -- 1157.766 1158.616 I- I- I'll admit, 1158.616 1159.661 I've had bad experience. 1159.661 1159.835 But, 1159.835 1161.862 (H) I'm not volunteering for anything. 1161.862 1162.667 DARLENE: ... Uh=, 1162.667 1163.569 CINDY: .. [Surgery-wise]. 1162.831 1163.238 DARLENE: [Well see, 1163.238 1165.268 mine would] be more for= looks than anything else, 1165.268 1165.620 CINDY: ... Oh, 1165.620 1166.662 [~Darlee it doesn't chang- -- 1165.620 1166.816 DARLENE: [Cause my jaws don't hurt]. 1166.637 1167.174 CINDY: You're] li- -- 1167.174 1168.227 Your looks are fine. 1168.227 1169.652 DARLENE: ... Uh=, 1169.652 1171.622 ... Don't ever take a picture of me from the side. 1171.622 1173.611 I saw ... me .. on television. 1173.611 1174.636 ... Talking, 1174.636 1175.785 and they had a side angle. 1175.785 1176.651 And it looked terrible. 1176.651 1177.398 .. (Hx) @[@] 1177.160 1177.416 CINDY: [Yeah], 1177.423 1179.165 but you're probably extremely critical too. 1179.165 1180.484 And everybody else [probably wouldn't even], 1179.912 1180.562 DARLENE: [

]. 1180.562 1180.887 CINDY: You know, 1180.887 1182.933 [(TSK) (H)= (Hx)=] 1181.188 1182.393 DARLENE: [Because this guy=, 1182.532 1182.933 at work]? 1182.933 1184.019 ... uh, 1184.019 1184.361 well, 1184.361 1185.671 they had they had it on the night before. 1185.671 1186.600 It's back when they had this, 1186.600 1188.507 (H) San Antonio Housing Authority putting, 1188.507 1189.860 (H) .. the houses in your neighborhood, 1189.860 1191.480 and they put three on my street. 1191.480 1191.958 ... You know, 1191.958 1192.802 (H) I said hey, 1192.802 1193.605 if you wanna be fair about it, 1193.605 1194.635 spread it around the neighborhood, 1194.635 1195.496 Don't just put em all, 1195.496 1197.078 (H) They put all three on my street. 1197.078 1198.233 (H)[= A=nd], 1197.619 1199.099 CINDY: [(H) They put] what on your street? 1199.099 1200.059 >ENV: ((MIC_NOISE)) 1200.059 1200.260 DARLENE: Uh, 1200.260 1201.070 public housing. 1201.070 1202.078 CINDY: (H) Oh= yeah. 1202.078 1203.838 They do that a lot in a lotta areas. 1203.838 1204.992 They're doing that around [here too]. 1204.505 1204.886 DARLENE: [Yeah but, 1204.886 1205.332 this] is -- 1205.332 1206.985 (H)= Usually it's uh, 1206.985 1208.128 ... uh p- uh=, 1208.128 1208.903 ]. 1208.903 1209.681 DARLENE: uh PAR>], 1209.681 1212.080 ... Something with a number in it. 1212.080 1213.035 ANDREW: ]. 1212.685 1213.881 CINDY: [Hu- i]t's not like HUD? 1213.881 1215.478 ANDREW: (H)=[2= (Hx)=2] 1214.231 1214.853 CINDY: [2Yeah that's how they -- 1214.853 1215.803 That's public h2][3ousing3]. 1215.579 1216.027 DARLENE: [3There's3] HUD, 1216.027 1217.284 and then there's something else. 1217.284 1220.497 >ENV: ((MIC_NOISE))[=][2=2] 1218.459 1218.809 CINDY: [Hm, 1219.020 1219.776 ... (TSK) I don't really] [2know2]. 1219.518 1220.520 DARLENE: [2A=nd2] uh=, 1220.520 1223.057 ... They check on the stuff and all. 1223.057 1224.587 San Antonio Housing Authority does, 1224.587 1225.736 ... Well, 1225.736 1226.716 it's real funny, 1226.716 1227.803 .. One of the guy=s is, 1227.803 1229.781 ... %uh= family is, 1229.781 1230.662 and it's uh, 1230.662 1232.317 .. husband and wife and two ki=ds. 1232.317 1233.811 ... He works for the city, 1233.811 1235.109 he works for the city dogcatcher, 1235.109 1236.272 I don't know how much they make, 1236.272 1237.065 (H) But, 1237.065 1238.000 ... like my house, 1238.000 1239.653 .. d=amn good thing I bought it when I did, 1239.653 1241.645 (H) My ... friend up the street, 1241.645 1245.006 she pays almost five-hundred dollars a month ... house payments, 1245.006 1247.182 ... this guy gets his for ninety dollars a month. 1247.182 1247.799 CINDY: ... Yeah. 1247.799 1248.699 DARLENE: (H) [I mean, 1248.095 1250.798 CINDY: [(H)= (Hx)=] 1248.873 1251.427 DARLENE: give the people who aren't maki=ng the money] .. a break. 1251.427 1253.321 ... But one [2fifth2]? 1252.937 1253.750 ANDREW: [2(COUGH)2]= (THROAT) 1253.750 1254.153 DARLENE: You know, 1254.153 1258.012 (H) How much could that ... person be making less than say ~Danny right now. 1258.012 1259.735 ... (H) %U=m, 1259.735 1260.436 CINDY: ... Yeah, 1260.436 1261.239 I don't really know. 1261.239 1262.118 ... (H)[=] 1261.594 1262.197 DARLENE: [(H) But], 1262.197 1262.978 .. So %, 1262.978 1264.854 other than it looking kinda t=acky, 1264.854 1266.793 (H) they just got all kinda planters, 1266.793 1268.045 and all kinda crap piled outside. 1268.045 1268.375 They don't -- 1268.375 1270.554 ... They haven't gotten to the point of, 1270.554 1272.899 ... putting their old water heater out there or anything like that, 1272.899 1274.301 (H) There's one h=ouse, 1274.301 1275.181 when they started all this, 1275.181 1275.486 we -- 1275.486 1279.521 ... @@ Somebody got a list %of %the .. houses on this one, 1279.521 1281.051 ... u=m, 1281.051 1282.104 subsidized thing? 1282.104 1282.489 CINDY: Un[hunh]. 1282.235 1283.085 DARLENE: [(TSK) (H)] And, 1283.060 1283.889 @ % me, 1283.889 1285.089 and about five other people, 1285.089 1285.989 drove around to all these houses, 1285.989 1286.790 to see what they look like. 1286.790 1287.549 CINDY: (H) 1287.549 1288.700 DARLENE: .. A=nd, 1288.700 1290.999 ... about half of em were as nice as mine or nicer. 1290.999 1291.652 S- kept up. 1291.652 1292.483 ... , 1292.483 1295.564 Then some of em had better uh ... landscaping. 1295.564 1296.231 ... But, 1296.231 1297.691 .. you know like I keep my lawn mowed, 1297.691 1298.234 and trimmed and all that? 1298.234 1299.948 (H) About half of em were .. as good, 1299.948 1300.808 .. or better than mine. 1300.808 1301.159 Which -- 1301.159 1302.011 ... That's fine. 1302.011 1302.786 CINDY: ... [Yeah]. 1302.608 1303.060 DARLENE: [They] they % -- 1303.060 1304.189 I thought they were doing a real good job. 1304.189 1305.970 .. (TSK) (H) The other half, 1305.970 1308.491 ... they (Hx), 1308.491 1310.695 long weeds and stuff .. was the least of the the problem. 1310.695 1312.525 ... (H) This one house had, 1312.525 1315.032 ... it looked like an abandoned junkyard. 1315.032 1316.590 .. It had so many old appliances, 1316.590 1318.021 and broken down shit out in the front yard. 1318.021 1318.467 I don't know what the- -- 1318.467 1320.592 .. what the ... thing was. 1320.592 1322.509 CINDY: ... (H)[= But you find people] do that, 1320.942 1321.948 DARLENE: [If they were my neighbors], 1322.509 1322.772 CINDY: that- -- 1322.772 1323.399 .. all all -- 1323.399 1323.748 I mean, 1323.748 1324.858 (H) I hate to say it, 1324.858 1326.596 a lotta times the people in our neighborhood? 1326.596 1327.809 (H) That .. do that. 1327.809 1328.828 .. There's no reason for -- 1328.828 1329.193 I cannot- -- 1329.193 1329.766 I don't underst- -- 1329.766 1331.195 Of course I don't know their finances. 1331.195 1331.489 DARLENE: [Yeah, 1331.258 1331.457 CINDY: [I mean, 1331.455 1331.619 you know, 1331.489 1331.722 DARLENE: ]. 1331.619 1332.584 CINDY: I'm] not into their books, 1332.584 1332.947 or anything, 1332.947 1334.067 (H) But I I -- 1334.067 1336.856 There doesn't appear to be any= logical reason for it [to me]. 1336.556 1337.534 DARLENE: [They're] just pack [2rats, 1337.206 1338.923 CINDY: [2(H) Yeah (Hx)=2]=. 1337.534 1338.013 DARLENE: or something, 1338.013 1338.801 I don't know2]. 1338.923 1339.262 CINDY: Yeah[3=3], 1339.162 1339.658 DARLENE: [3But3] if -- 1339.658 1340.025 Hey. 1340.025 1340.287 If, 1340.287 1342.160 .. If people had to come to my house, 1342.160 1344.586 and pass ... one of these [houses that look like that], 1343.528 1343.888 CINDY: [I know, 1343.888 1344.591 it's depressing]. 1344.591 1345.964 DARLENE: ... I'd call the health department, 1345.964 1347.015 and tell em it's a health hazard. 1347.015 1347.919 .. Cause I think it is, 1347.919 1348.355 CINDY: ... Yeah. 1348.355 1348.636 [Well], 1348.328 1349.805 DARLENE: [It's gotta] breed [2rats and stuff2]? 1348.842 1351.549 CINDY: [2(H)=2] ... Yeah [3(Hx)=3]. 1350.592 1354.133 DARLENE: [3all those little3] ... spaces they can get into and stuff? 1354.133 1354.653 CINDY: ... [4Yeah, 1354.569 1355.197 DARLENE: [4I gue- I gue-4] -- 1354.653 1355.207 CINDY: probably4], 1355.197 1357.537 DARLENE: It'd be a good place for em to get out of the sun or get out of the cold, 1357.537 1358.440 CINDY: ... Yeah. 1358.440 1359.181 .. That's true. 1359.181 1359.507 DARLENE: But, 1359.507 1360.236 ... evidently, 1360.236 1361.102 that one house, 1361.102 1361.981 I- I went by it, 1361.981 1363.482 about a year after that (Hx). 1363.482 1364.184 .. A=nd, 1364.184 1365.235 .. it was still the same way. 1365.235 1365.885 ... Worse. 1365.885 1366.621 .. Wo[rse]. 1366.294 1366.544 CINDY: [Hm]. 1366.621 1367.180 ... Yea[2h, 1367.180 1367.732 DARLENE: [2More thi2]ngs, 1367.180 1367.608 CINDY: it gets2] -- 1367.732 1368.427 [3(H)3]= 1367.732 1367.981 DARLENE: [3but3], 1368.427 1369.906 CINDY: [4(TSK) 4]. 1369.354 1370.236 DARLENE: [4Uh (Hx)4], 1370.236 1371.105 I guess=, 1371.105 1371.381 uh, 1371.381 1375.166 ... I wish I could think of the name of that other ... program. 1375.166 1377.290 ... See this one guy at the store had a house, 1377.290 1377.934 that he bought, 1377.934 1379.520 and then he couldn't afford the house payments anymore, 1379.520 1380.324 (H) so, 1380.324 1381.767 he got .. with one of these, 1381.767 1383.490 ... u=m, 1383.490 1384.975 ... support thi=ngs and, 1384.975 1386.394 ... uh=, 1386.394 1389.480 ... like HUD, 1389.480 1390.633 and I can't think of the name of it, 1390.633 1392.440 ... and they guaranteed him, 1392.440 1394.440 ... a= residence, 1394.440 1395.894 CINDY: Section eigh=t are you talking? 1395.894 1396.874 DARLENE: ... Section eight. 1396.874 1397.359 ... %Yeah. 1397.359 1398.656 CINDY: ... [

]. 1398.453 1399.102 DARLENE: [A]=nd, 1399.102 1400.255 ... it worked out good for him, 1400.255 1401.388 otherwise he would've lost the house. 1401.388 1402.340 Eventually he got it back. 1402.340 1402.760 .. You know, 1402.760 1404.094 (H) he took it off that and, 1404.094 1405.699 (H) he got his finances back in order, 1405.699 1406.931 so he @didn't @lose his house. 1406.931 1408.794 (H)= So it worked out good for him on that, 1408.794 1409.351 and he said, 1409.351 1409.976 the people that, 1409.976 1411.712 ... all the people that had rented his house, 1411.712 1412.724 (H) he said Section eight, 1412.724 1414.001 ... That uh, 1414.001 1415.594 Section eight people kept up good with it. 1415.594 1416.540 And checked on the people. 1416.540 1419.144 ... But on this other program (Hx), 1419.144 1421.012 ... it didn't look like they did. 1421.012 1422.415 CINDY: ... Yeah. 1422.415 1423.295 DARLENE: .. %So=, 1423.295 1424.457 ... a=nyway=. 1424.457 1424.984 CINDY: Hunh=. 1424.984 1426.935 DARLENE: ... But (Hx)=, 1426.935 1429.202 CINDY: ... (H) [So what did you get] -- 1428.560 1429.595 DARLENE: [. 1429.595 1430.063 CINDY: .. Hunh? 1430.063 1431.218 DARLENE: I don't know how we got on that. 1431.218 1432.144 ANDREW: .. (H) (COUGH) 1432.144 1433.087 CINDY: .. I can't understand you. 1433.087 1434.367 DARLENE: I don't know [how we got on] that. 1433.366 1434.105 ANDREW: [(COUGH)] 1434.367 1434.633 CINDY: No, 1434.633 1435.284 I I don't know -- 1435.284 1435.705 .. oh I -- 1435.705 1436.826 We were talking about books. 1436.826 1437.305 I don't know. 1437.305 1438.313 ... How we jumped to that. 1438.313 1439.121 DARLENE: ... [Uh], 1438.504 1439.875 CINDY: [(H)]= But, 1439.875 1440.356 what was I gonna, 1440.356 1440.981 oh um=, 1440.981 1441.306 ask you, 1441.306 1442.028 What'd you get for Christmas. 1442.028 1443.236 (Hx)=[=] 1442.930 1443.117 DARLENE: [Oh, 1443.117 1444.868 some] earrings from ~Brenda and ~Danny=, 1444.868 1447.288 ... a little Christmas statue from ~Brenda and ~Danny, 1447.288 1447.488 that, 1447.488 1448.171 .. it's um, 1448.171 1449.663 ... (TSK) (H) I don't know, 1449.663 1450.474 cerami=c, 1450.474 1451.076 %or=, 1451.076 1452.305 .. what it's made out of, 1452.305 1453.522 (H) and it's real cute, 1453.522 1453.973 it's got a, 1453.973 1455.047 ... little boy, 1455.047 1455.714 with a deer, 1455.714 1456.514 and Santa Claus. 1456.514 1458.237 (H) And un[til ~Brenda] pointed it out to me, 1457.226 1457.527 CINDY: [Hunh]. 1458.237 1459.261 DARLENE: I didn't realize it. 1459.261 1461.494 (H) It looks like the little .. boy brought the .. deer, 1461.494 1462.446 (H) to Santa Claus, 1462.446 1464.177 ... for Santa Claus to fix its -- 1464.177 1466.528 (H) Had the deer with its .. uh= .. leg up, 1466.528 1468.231 .. and Sa[nta Claus was bandaging it]. 1466.856 1467.543 CINDY: [Aw=, 1467.543 1469.196 (Hx) (H)] [2(TSK) Oh= (Hx). 1468.398 1469.580 DARLENE: [2@@@@@ 1469.196 1470.100 CINDY: @@@@ 1469.580 1471.111 DARLENE: (H)= So, 1470.100 1471.111 CINDY: (H) That's cute. 1471.111 1471.569 DARLENE: 2], 1471.111 1471.569 CINDY: Yeah2]. 1471.569 1472.335 DARLENE: That was real cute, 1472.335 1472.835 >ENV: [((KITCHEN_NOISE))] 1472.452 1475.580 CINDY: [(H)] Did [2uh2] .. ~Andy mention anything about the uh cards, 1473.130 1473.380 DARLENE: [2X2] 1475.580 1476.782 CINDY: that .. we got for Christmas? 1476.782 1477.404 DARLENE: ... Unh-un[h]. 1477.204 1477.840 CINDY: [The Ch]ristmas cards, 1477.840 1478.507 (H) .. Oh, 1478.507 1479.670 why don't I let .. him tell you, 1479.670 1479.975 because, 1479.975 1480.625 %it was something th-, 1480.625 1482.028 we .. really got struck by it, 1482.028 1482.825 because it's uh, 1482.825 1483.603 what is the poet? 1483.603 1484.071 Or something? 1484.071 1484.820 That did the verse? 1484.820 1486.441 .. (H)[= That] your mom really liked? 1485.154 1485.408 ANDREW: [X] 1486.441 1487.092 CINDY: ... What was [2it2]? 1486.942 1488.195 DARLENE: [2Oh2][3= u=m3], 1487.092 1488.195 ANDREW: [3Helen Steiner Rice3]. 1488.195 1488.645 CINDY: Yeah. 1488.645 1489.133 What- s- s- -- 1489.133 1489.819 ... [Wait a se-] -- 1489.346 1489.764 ANDREW: [Helen], 1489.819 1491.275 CINDY: (H) Helen [2Steiner2] Rice, 1490.568 1490.935 DARLENE: [2XX2] 1491.275 1491.920 CINDY: or [3something like that3]. 1491.351 1492.680 DARLENE: [3% Helen3] .. Keller Rice. 1492.680 1493.598 CINDY: ... Or something like that, 1493.598 1493.948 anyway, 1493.948 1494.952 he was .. all excited, 1494.952 1495.392 so we, 1495.392 1496.567 ... % kinda made sure that we, 1496.567 1497.692 .. sent em all to you guys. 1497.692 1501.119 (H) @Because @we were thinking that maybe one of you might remember that. 1501.119 1502.071 (H)[= .. Yeah]. 1501.282 1501.721 DARLENE: [Oh yeah. 1501.721 1502.849 Helen] Steiner Rice. 1502.849 1503.549 CINDY: .. Stei[2ner Rice. 1502.965 1503.916 DARLENE: [2Steiner Rice2]. 1503.549 1503.916 CINDY: Yeah2]. 1503.916 1504.510 .. I had n- -- 1504.510 1505.740 (H) I had never heard of her. 1505.740 1506.581 But that doesn't mean much, 1506.581 1507.085 but uh, 1507.085 1508.613 (H) they were nice verses. 1508.613 1508.832 Yeah. 1508.832 1509.559 I [kinda liked] her. 1508.971 1509.372 DARLENE: [Mhm], 1509.559 1509.922 CINDY: Yeah. 1509.922 1510.605 DARLENE: ... That, 1510.605 1510.968 and then, 1510.968 1512.919 I also got a Christmas card u=m, 1512.919 1515.408 ... fro=m, 1515.408 1516.247 .. one of my friends, 1516.247 1517.378 that was from= uh, 1517.378 1518.768 ... MD Anderson, 1518.768 1519.072 .. you know, 1519.072 1519.880 the children's, 1519.880 1520.914 (H) .. uh, 1520.914 1522.672 MD Anderson cancer ... [thing, 1522.441 1522.811 CINDY: [Oh]. 1522.672 1523.339 DARLENE: in] Houston? 1523.339 1524.792 where they design the cards. 1524.792 1525.595 CINDY: ... Oh[= yeah. 1524.955 1526.231 DARLENE: [], 1525.618 1525.919 CINDY: Yeah, 1525.919 1526.619 that's] neat. 1526.619 1526.919 Yeah. 1526.919 1528.038 ... (H)

. 1528.620 1529.168 (H) Well listen, 1529.168 1530.284 I'm gonna pass you back to ~Andy. 1530.284 1530.863 DARLENE: .. Oka[y]. 1530.703 1531.096 CINDY: [O]kay. 1531.096 1531.998 Have a nice Christ[2mas. 1531.842 1532.544 DARLENE: [2Y- y'all too2]. 1532.227 1532.561 CINDY: Okay2]. 1532.561 1532.915 .. Bye [3bye3]. 1532.773 1533.073 DARLENE: [3Bye3] bye. 1533.073 1535.412 ANDREW: ... (H) Who's there. 1535.412 1536.115 DARLENE: ... ~Darlene. 1536.115 1536.820 ANDREW: .. . 1536.820 1539.281 ... (H) ... [So you had a good Ch-] -- 1538.466 1540.474 DARLENE: [ said you wanted to] tell me about that Christmas card. 1540.474 1541.100 ANDREW: ... Hunh? 1541.100 1543.399 DARLENE: ... She said you wanted to tell me about that [Helen Steiner R-] -- 1542.733 1544.151 ANDREW: [Well I was gonna] tell you about it (Hx), 1544.151 1545.171 but she beat me @to @it. 1545.171 1545.561 @@ 1545.561 1547.319 (H) Well it was Helen Steiner Rice[=]. 1547.088 1547.319 DARLENE: [Yeah], 1547.319 1548.264 that's the one mother liked. 1548.264 1548.872 ANDREW: ... I know. 1548.872 1549.160 That's -- 1549.160 1549.975 When we saw that, 1549.975 1551.318 I just grabbed the whole box. 1551.318 1552.241 DARLENE: ... [@@@@] 1551.518 1552.532 ANDREW: [@@@@]@@ 1552.532 1553.697 DARLENE: ... [2Yeah2], 1552.984 1553.697 ANDREW: [2(H)2]