@UTF8 @Begin @Languages: eng @Participants: SETH SETH Speaker, ENV ENV Environment, LARR LARRY Speaker, X X Speaker @Options: CA, caps, bullets @ID: eng|SBCSAE|SETH|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|ENV|||||Environment||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|LARR|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|X|||||Speaker||| @Media: 29, audio @Comment: Ancient Furnace @Comment: This is a business conversation recorded in Northern California between Seth and Larry, who are meeting for the first time. Seth works as an engineer who designs, installs, and sells heating and air conditioning units. Larry has invited him to his home to give him an estimate. *SETH: (..) Excuse me . 2750_4370 *ENV: (..) &=DOG_BARKING_BEGINS . 9480_16210 *LARR: (..) Hey 10290_10900 how are you guy ? 10900_12150 *SETH: (..) Are you Larry ? 11850_12760 *SETH: (..) Are you Larry ? 28820_29780 *LARR: (..) Yes . 30060_30520 *LARR: ⌈ How are you ⌉ . 30520_31120 *SETH: ⌊ Are you ⌋ +/. 30520_31120 *SETH: (.) You're the guy . 31120_32020 *LARR: (..) Hunh: ? 32240_32980 *SETH: (.) You're the guy to talk to then . 32930_34280 *LARR: I'm the guy . 34100_34900 *LARR: ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 34900_35630 *SETH: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ 34900_35630 &=in I didn't know if I had the right place . 35840_37240 *LARR: (.) &{l=@ Yeah 37050_37500 you got it &}l=@ . 37500_38210 *LARR: (.) I just +... 38210_38870 *SETH: (..) What are you doing there . 39990_41310 *LARR: &{l=@ You're probably trying t- &}l=@ +/. 41200_42300 *LARR: (.) &{l=VOX Yeah this is strange 42300_43450 what's this ⌈ guy ⌉ doing &}l=VOX . 43450_45010 *SETH: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 43590_44720 *LARR: (.) I'm putting water in a (..) &{l=X twenty-six &}l=X gallon container 44990_49250 inside my (..) truck . 49250_50720 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_ENDS . 47600_50660 *SETH: (..) Wow . 51170_51850 *SETH: (.) ⌈ That's quite a p- ⌉ +... 51850_52480 *LARR: ⌊ Cause I had to ⌋ haul it to a property 51840_53490 which doesn't have any water 53490_54740 (.) and I have to spray the road . 54740_56330 *SETH: (.) Ah: . 56330_57020 *LARR: (.) &=laugh &=laugh 57020_58230 (..) ⌈ Cause the road ⌉ (.) before (.) you can drive on it . 58230_60610 *SETH: ⌊ Interesting ⌋ . 58230_59290 *LARR: it needs (..) more uh +/. 60610_63100 *LARR: (..) more (..) stability . 64160_66590 *LARR: (..) Evidently . 66590_67750 *LARR: (..) So give me one second to lock this thing 67890_70190 ⌈ and then XX ⌉ . 70190_70760 *SETH: ⌊ Is that to keep the ⌋ dust 70190_71340 (.) keep the dust down ? 71340_72410 *LARR: (..) well &=ex 72530_73300 no 73300_73610 (.) it's not that so much 73610_74790 it's uh . 74790_75120 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_BEGINS . 75120_75840 *LARR: they put 75120_75840 (..) they put a: uh 75840_77490 (..) a type of uh (.) base on it that needs water and . 78220_82940 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_ENDS . 81950_83130 *LARR: (..) that just hasn't happened yet . 83990_85760 *SETH: (..) ⌈ Oh ⌉ . 86700_87540 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ +... 86700_87540 *SETH: I see . 87540_88240 *SETH: (..) So there's some chemical reaction that has to take ⌈ place ⌉ . 88730_91430 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 90820_91430 *LARR: (.) I guess (..) &{l=P a good a- (..) analogy &}l=P . 91430_95360 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_BEGINS . 96230_98240 *LARR: (..) &{l=X Chelsea &}l=X 98240_98630 no . 98630_99150 *ENV: (..) &=DOG_BARKING_ENDS . 101090_102790 *LARR: (.) That should hold it in there . 103120_105150 *LARR: (..) Okay . 105860_106750 *LARR: (..) ⌈ Nice to meet you ⌉ . 107940_108900 *SETH: ⌊ How you doing ⌋ . 107940_108900 *SETH: Good to see you . 108900_109350 *LARR: What's your name ? 109350_109870 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_BEGINS . 109510_109890 *SETH: (.) Seth . 109890_110340 *LARR: Seth . 110340_110640 *LARR: Okay . 110640_111320 *SETH: (.) Here's my card here . 111320_112350 *LARR: (.) Thanks Seth . 112350_113120 *ENV: &=DOG_BARKING_ENDS . 112350_113140 *LARR: (..) &{l=X I think it's warming up a bit here &}l=X . 114640_116580 *SETH: (..) Is this the house we're looking at ? 116830_118410 *LARR: (..) I'll take you down in the basement . 120350_121960 *SETH: (..) Is the furnace down in the basement ? 123420_124930 *LARR: (..) What's left of it 125490_126460 yeah . 126460_127010 *SETH: (.) &=laugh &=laugh . 126800_127410 *LARR: (.) &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 127410_128250 (.) ⌈ We had all these ⌉ +... 128250_129070 *SETH: ⌊ Is it a (.) ol:d ⌋ system ? 128250_129650 *LARR: (.) Yeah &=ex . 129780_130270 *LARR: (.) We had the asbestos uh all removed from it and 130270_132340 (..) and uh . 133550_134460 *SETH: (.) Oh really . 134460_135110 *LARR: (..) so that's been done . 135100_136020 *SETH: I was j- +/. 135970_136480 *SETH: (.) I was just at a place that does asbestos removal . 136480_139110 *LARR: (.) Yeah 139100_139600 (.) ⌈ where ⌉ . 139600_139890 *SETH: ⌊ Cal ⌋ +/. 139610_139890 *SETH: (.) Cal Tech ? 139890_140840 *LARR: (.) they're the guys that did it . 140840_142110 *SETH: (..) &{l=@ Are they ? 142110_142740 *SETH: (..) ⌈ Alright &}l=@ ⌉ . 142740_143720 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 142740_143720 *SETH: (.) &=in ⌈2 &=lengthened ⌉2 . 143720_144260 *LARR: ⌊2 that's down ⌋2 in Berkeley 143720_144680 right ? 144680_145020 *SETH: No they're +/. 145020_145530 *SETH: (.) they've got an office here in Nappa . 145530_147150 *LARR: (..) Cal Tech . 147990_148780 *LARR: &{l=X What was the &}l=X +/. 148780_149100 *LARR: No . 149100_149410 *LARR: (.) Synergy . 149410_149990 *LARR: (.) That's who . 149990_150500 *SETH: Synergy . 150440_151070 *SETH: (.) ⌈ Dif- (.) different ⌉ one . 151070_152210 *LARR: ⌊ ʔI: I'm sorry ⌋ . 151070_152080 *LARR: It's a different outfit . 152080_152830 *LARR: I didn't know they had one up here . 152830_154190 *SETH: Yeah . 154190_154450 *SETH: Though I think they had just recently mo:ved here . 154450_156110 *LARR: Unhunh . 155850_156320 *SETH: (..) &=in (.) Cause I was wondering ⌈ t- ⌉ +... 159760_160730 *LARR: ⌊ So where's ⌋ the man with the uh (.) camera 160360_162330 ⌈2 and the ⌉2 +... 162330_162740 *SETH: ⌊2 Oh ⌋2 I got the +/. 162420_163010 *SETH: (.) I got my record⌈3er right here ⌉3 . 163010_164540 *LARR: ⌊3 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋3 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 163550_165220 (..) That's pretty clever . 165380_166670 *SETH: (..) Yeah 167100_167300 my brother is uh 167300_168520 (..) teaches linguistics 168720_169680 and I guess he's doing this study . 169680_170970 *LARR: Oh: 170970_171230 &{l=X okay &}l=X . 171230_171790 *SETH: (..) and they just want (..) business conversations . 171970_174850 *LARR: (..) alright . 177140_177800 *LARR: (.) Well ? 177800_178430 *SETH: (..) Wow . 179740_180440 *LARR: (..) Here's the animal &=ex . 180440_181860 *SETH: My: go:sh . 181860_183090 *SETH: (..) &=laugh &=laugh &=in . 183600_184690 *LARR: &=in . 184700_185130 *SETH: W:ow . 184960_185730 *LARR: They took (..) uh some of it with em obviously . 185730_187970 *SETH: Did this used to be +/. 187970_188760 *SETH: (.) used to be an old oil +... 188760_190090 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 190090_190530 *LARR: (.) I think it was an ⌈ old ⌉ . 190530_191410 *SETH: +, ⌊ fire ⌋ ? 190840_191410 *LARR: (..) I think it was an old 191410_192710 (..) see the (.) oil &{n=THUMP &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal tank &}n=THUMP here ? 192990_195400 *LARR: Isn't that an oil tank ? 195400_196310 *SETH: Yeah . 196310_196930 *LARR: (..) That's what my guess is . 197170_198400 *LARR: (..) A:nd ⌈ uh &=ex ⌉ . 200110_201360 *X: ⌊ &{n=THUMP &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal ⌋ &=nonvocal &=nonvocal ⌈2 &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &=nonvocal &}n=THUMP ⌉2 . 200780_203030 *SETH: ⌊2 Wow ⌋2 . 202210_203040 *LARR: (.) do you have a flashlight on you ? 203050_204390 *SETH: Sure do . 204390_204980 *LARR: &{l=X Yeah &}l=X . 204980_205560 *SETH: (..) So 206790_207430 (.) &{l=X then you &}l=X get duct work ? 207430_208450 *SETH: (.) Or ⌈ is this the flue ⌉ . 208450_209420 *LARR: ⌊ We:ll 208450_209010 yeah ⌋ . 209010_209420 *LARR: (.) ⌈2 What they did . 209420_210010 *SETH: ⌊2 That's the flue I guess ⌋2 . 209420_210680 *LARR: they they ⌉2 took the stubs 210680_211190 and they cleaned em up &=ex . 211190_212660 *LARR: (.) &=in So you can tie right into em . 212660_214290 *LARR: See ? 214290_214820 *SETH: (..) Yeah . 215160_215940 *SETH: (..) So this used to have asbestos . 215940_217220 *SETH: Hunh ? 217220_217440 *LARR: Yeah . 217440_217760 *SETH: Where did all this connect ? 217760_218620 *SETH: Was there a &=in ⌈ a ⌉ plenum on top of here ? 218620_220880 *LARR: ⌊ So ⌋ 219400_219890 (..) Yeah . 221210_221600 *LARR: There was a bi:g hood that went over the top of this thing 221600_223960 with these &=in stack that ⌈ went this ⌉ way . 223960_226570 *SETH: ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 225500_226100 *SETH: Yeah like an ⌈2 octopus type ⌉2 . 226590_227930 *LARR: ⌊2 and then one that goes ⌋2 back 226870_228250 un- underneath there to the +/. 228250_229990 *LARR: (.) &=in to the: uh: (.) kitchen 230120_232310 (..) there are- there are different +/. 232310_233610 *LARR: (.) there are different ones 233610_234640 that kinda go all the way up . 234640_236040 *SETH: (..) I see one r- 236200_236940 there's a rectang⌈ular one ⌉ right there . 236940_238760 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 237500_237960 *SETH: (..) is that one right there 238760_239490 w- that I'm flashing my light on ? 239490_240590 *LARR: ʔYeah: 240590_240890 it might be &=ex . 240890_241770 *LARR: (.) ʔIt kinda looks like it . 241770_242730 *LARR: And then there was +/. 242730_243230 *LARR: there's one farther up 243230_244480 (..) &=in and then there is this &{n=THUMP &=nonvocal one &=nonvocal here &}n=THUMP . 244480_246870 *SETH: (..) So you &{l=X have &}l=X one two three: 247430_249540 (..) &=in (..) at least (.) ⌈ two there ⌉ . 250950_252370 *LARR: ⌊ Three ⌋ 251630_252240 and then there's another one (.) way down . 252240_254940 *LARR: (.) &=in I don't know if you can see it or not 254940_256500 (.) but it's +/. 256500_257290 *LARR: (..) it's up into the kitchen . 257700_259270 *SETH: (..) So there's probably three back there ? 259290_261290 *SETH: &=in and a- +/. 261290_261730 *SETH: and any over on this side ? 261730_262990 *LARR: (..) Well 262990_264130 (..) &=in no but 264340_265250 (.) what- what we +/. 265250_266140 *LARR: (.) we want to p- you to (.) kinda give us an idea 266140_269010 on a- w- what your ⌈ thoughts are ⌉ . 269010_270280 *SETH: ⌊ You wanna add a c- ⌋ +/. 269610_270280 *SETH: (.) add a few more ? 270280_271170 *LARR: Add a couple . 270890_271570 *LARR: Yeah . 271570_272030 *LARR: (..) Back 272330_272680 ee way back there ? 272680_273890 *LARR: (.) Is that one way back ? 273890_275290 *LARR: (..) &{l=X Can't see it &}l=X . 275430_276930 *SETH: (..) XX (.) ⌈ get this thing ⌉ . 276930_278100 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X To help &}l=X ⌋ +... 276930_278100 *SETH: (.) to ⌈2 a point ⌉2 . 278100_278930 *LARR: ⌊2 I don't know ⌋2 what this was 278390_279350 looks like they +... 279350_280030 *SETH: That was connected to one of em . 280030_281180 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 281180_281700 *LARR: They left that here . 281700_282840 *SETH: (..) I don't see any back in here 286710_288180 but . 288180_288340 *LARR: (.) &=in Well there's there's definitely one back there . 288330_290820 *LARR: (..) &=in Now there's nothing out here 290820_292530 and this is where we feel we (..) we should add one . 292530_295270 *LARR: (.) &=in Is 295270_296010 (.) this is a 296010_296730 (.) gonna be a dining room . 296730_297830 *SETH: (..) ⌈ okay ⌉ . 298400_299730 *LARR: ⌊ So ⌋ 298400_299570 (..) &=in uh: 299570_300590 one for- +/. 300590_301250 *LARR: one (.) there (.) for ⌈ sure ⌉ . 301250_302790 *SETH: ⌊ What abou:t ⌋ 302500_303280 (.) uh: 303280_303780 (.) what about above this section of the house . 303780_305620 *LARR: (..) Well 305990_306900 (..) let me show you that . 306900_308010 *LARR: And you can give +/. 308010_308430 *LARR: you can give me some idea about that as ⌈ well ⌉ . 308430_310550 *SETH: ⌊ Now ⌋ uh 310050_310590 (.) you are on propane ? 310590_311730 *SETH: (..) ⌈ out here ⌉ ? 311730_312810 *LARR: ⌊ No ⌋ . 312090_312570 *LARR: (.) This is natural gas . 312570_313610 *SETH: Oh really . 313570_314250 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 314280_314770 *SETH: (.) Oh good . 314740_315380 *LARR: (.) Kinda rare . 315380_316220 *SETH: (.) That's good 316220_316780 because uh 316780_317810 (.) the problem with propane is that 317810_319390 they wouldn't be able to v- +/. 319400_320270 *SETH: (.) &=in the co- +/. 320640_321210 *SETH: (.) the county would probably have a problem with it . 321210_322940 *LARR: (..) ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 322940_323350 *SETH: ⌊ Cause they're ⌋ very concerned about propane . 323100_324660 *SETH: But natural gas 324660_325520 I can put ⌈ a &=in ⌉ +... 325520_326180 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah . 325850_326180 *LARR: we were ⌋ real happy to get this place with natural gas . 326180_329140 *SETH: (.) ⌈ Do you ⌉ want me to remove the old furnace . 329140_331430 *LARR: ⌊ &=laugh ⌋ 329140_329690 (..) We'll not (.) have to ? 332690_334050 *SETH: (.) No uh 334060_334610 (.) do you want me to remove it . 334610_335580 *LARR: Oh yes . 335410_336160 *SETH: Okay . 335980_336440 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 336440_336820 *SETH: (.) ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 336830_337380 *LARR: ⌊ No that's ⌋ +/. 336830_337380 *LARR: that would be part of our deal . 337380_338550 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 338550_339020 *SETH: (..) Well y- the new furnace w- (.) would be much smaller . 339900_342200 *SETH: (..) That much I can guarantee you . 342200_343850 *LARR: (..) ⌈ Alright . 346460_346850 *SETH: ⌊ Do you- +... 346450_346740 *LARR: X ⌉ +... 346950_347120 *SETH: (.) How many square ⌋ feet is the house . 346740_348090 *LARR: (..) Uh: 349500_350080 well I guess it's around twenty-eight . 350080_351900 *LARR: (..) Approximately . 353950_355000 *SETH: (.) Okay . 355000_355740 *LARR: (..) I have a roof guy coming about this time too 360840_363580 so . 363580_363980 *SETH: (..) You're ⌈ doing the roof ⌉ ? 365930_366940 *LARR: ⌊ doorbell ⌋ rings 366350_367340 (.) we know who it is . 367340_368300 *SETH: (..) Getting a new roof put on too ? 369800_371150 *ENV: &=RADIO_BECOMES_AUDIBLE . 372100_374370 *LARR: Well I (.) got some problems with (..) leakage in certain areas 371130_375720 and just gotta get it fixed 375720_376740 before we get the rain again . 376740_378000 *LARR: (..) Alright 380730_381230 well let's start in the kitchen . 381230_382390 *LARR: (..) Okay this is &=ex +/. 388680_391050 *LARR: (..) this is one right here . 391050_392910 *LARR: (..) See 393650_394170 I don't think you saw this one 394170_395540 but . 395540_395830 *SETH: (..) I'm wondering if: 400820_401650 (.) you don't have a floor plan of the house 401650_403070 do you by any chance ? 403070_404090 *LARR: (.) No . 404050_404590 *LARR: (..) We ⌈ don't ⌉ . 404590_405300 *SETH: ⌊ X ⌋ . 404830_405300 *LARR: &=laugh &=laugh 405300_405920 &=in (..) We didn't get anything when we bought this baby &=laugh . 406410_409020 *SETH: (..) I'm wondering if I should just sketch it out . 409020_411200 *LARR: (..) Uh: . 412390_413110 *SETH: It's two-story though 412880_413790 right ? 413790_414280 *LARR: (.) Two-story . 414280_415300 *SETH: (.) Th- +/. 415300_415540 *SETH: Are there &{l=X any &}l=X registers on the second floor ? 415540_417060 *LARR: Unhunh . 417060_417490 *SETH: (..) Okay . 417770_418140 *LARR: So all those s:t- +/. 418000_419110 *LARR: (.) all those s:tubs that were (..) behind us 419110_421960 are the ones that go up ⌈ through the ⌉ wall . 421960_423550 *SETH: ⌊ Oh ⌋ . 422770_423460 *SETH: (.) Okay . 423460_424170 *LARR: (..) &=in &=tsk . 424170_424840 *SETH: Well that's no ⌈ problem ⌉ . 424840_425660 *LARR: ⌊ Uh ⌋ . 425280_425650 *SETH: as long as I don't have to do &=in any ducting to the second floor . 425710_428880 *LARR: yeah . 428640_429350 *LARR: (.) No . 429350_429630 *LARR: (.) &{l=X They &}l=X only +/. 429630_430340 *LARR: the only thing that we wanted you to do is tie into the existing ones . 430340_434030 *SETH: (.) Okay . 434030_434600 *LARR: (.) which are on the ground level . 434610_436300 *SETH: (..) How about that one right there . 437180_438220 *SETH: Is that one ? 438220_438970 *LARR: (..) Uh 439320_439860 yeah . 439860_440250 *LARR: (.) That's one as well . 440250_441480 *LARR: (..) And then the return is (.) back here . 442850_445070 *SETH: (..) Okay . 448350_448850 *SETH: (.) Good sized return . 448850_450140 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 450140_450480 *SETH: Now you're not looking at ʔuh (.) adding air conditioning . 450480_452730 *SETH: (.) Right ? 452730_453200 *LARR: Well 453200_453840 (..) ⌈ we would ⌉ like to have that as an option . 454140_456350 *SETH: ⌊ X ⌋ 454340_454770 (.) ⌈2 Okay ⌉2 . 456310_456790 *LARR: ⌊2 We could ⌋2 always add that later . 456350_457510 *LARR: Right ? 457510_457940 *SETH: (..) Yeah . 458150_458530 *SETH: One of the things you can do 458530_459690 if (.) if you don't wanna do it now 459690_461690 (..) you can 461690_462480 (.) what they call 462480_463020 (.) prep for air conditioning . 463020_464110 *SETH: You can put in the coil . 464110_465790 *SETH: (..) See you've ⌈ got the ⌉ furnace and the coil . 465790_467820 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X Yeah &}l=X ⌋ . 466190_466600 *SETH: &=in and then 467820_468660 (..) when you add air conditioning in the future 468660_470600 (..) all you gotta do is put the outdoor condensing unit 470600_473090 (..) and refrigerant piping to that coil . 473090_475330 *SETH: (..) So it (.) saves +/. 476360_477420 *SETH: (.) it saves: additional work in the future . 477420_479860 *LARR: (..) Mhm . 480310_480730 *SETH: Otherwise you gotta come back and put the coil in 480650_482440 which means you gotta modify the duct work 482440_484400 to ⌈ get that ⌉ coil in there so . 484400_485910 *LARR: ⌊ Right ⌋ . 484460_484880 *SETH: (.) &=in if you're thinking about doing it in the future 485940_487640 you might wanna at least put the coil in . 487640_488960 *SETH: It only (.) costs about three-hundred fifty dollars for the coil . 488960_491840 *LARR: Oh . 491840_492460 *LARR: (.) Alright . 492460_492860 *SETH: (.) It's the it's the out⌈door air conditioning &{l=X that &}l=X ⌉ +... 492860_494860 *LARR: ⌊ Well 493690_493920 (.) write that in ⌋ there 493920_495120 anyway in the (.) in the quote . 495120_496830 *SETH: (..) &=tsk And now that's the (.) the dining room you wanna add ? 496830_499030 *LARR: Yeah . 499030_499380 *LARR: If you +/. 499380_499610 *LARR: if you go over and have a look at the dining room . 499610_501740 *SETH: You got a lotta glass in that room it looks like . 501740_503530 *LARR: yeah 503300_503780 (.) and ʔuh we're gonna be making changes to the (..) to the house too 503780_508280 so we're (.) keeping that in mind . 508280_510030 *LARR: But if you notice 510030_510820 there are no registers in here . 510820_512320 *LARR: (..) So . 512680_513500 *SETH: (.) &=in Is this accessible ? 513910_515100 *LARR: (..) ⌈ oh yeah ⌉ . 515470_516030 *SETH: ⌊ I wonder ⌋ +/. 515470_516030 *SETH: I wonder if 516030_516570 (.) ⌈ was this ⌉ added on you think . 516570_517700 *LARR: ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 516570_516860 *SETH: (.) maybe ? 517700_518150 *SETH: (..) I'm just wondering if that ⌈2 foun⌉2dation wall +... 518150_520540 *LARR: ⌊2 M- ⌋2 +/. 519180_519490 *LARR: (..) It might've been . 520550_521540 *SETH: +, goes to that 521540_522190 (.) I wonder if I can get (.) into this . 522190_523330 *LARR: Oh you can get into it . 523140_524030 *LARR: Yeah . 524030_524430 *SETH: (.) ⌈ Okay ⌉ . 524430_524860 *LARR: ⌊ Oh yeah ⌋ . 524430_524860 *LARR: I've been under here . 524860_525610 *SETH: (.) Oh okay . 525610_526270 *SETH: (.) ⌈ Good ⌉ . 526270_526810 *LARR: ⌊ So ⌋ 526260_526810 this is not a problem . 526810_527970 *SETH: (.) Shoot I'd probab⌈ly go ⌉ with two registers in this room . 527970_529840 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ +/. 528260_528500 *LARR: (.) Alright . 529890_530360 *LARR: ⌈ X ⌉ +... 530360_530540 *SETH: ⌊ I'd ⌋ probably go like ⌈2 one here ⌉2 . 530360_531730 *LARR: ⌊2 &{l=X Oh yeah &}l=X ⌋2 . 531450_531790 *SETH: and one (.) ⌈3 one there ⌉3 . 531740_532630 *LARR: ⌊3 you'd do one ⌋3 over there as well ? 532290_533910 *SETH: (..) Cause it's a good-sized room with a lot of glass . 534110_536590 *LARR: (..) Okay . 536590_537390 *SETH: (.) Or you could do it 537390_538470 (..) you know 538470_538690 you could put like one on this wall 538690_540070 and one on that wall . 540070_541400 *LARR: (.) Okay 541400_541980 on the two (.) two out⌈side- +... 541980_543140 *SETH: ⌊ And then I'd ⌋ probably tie em both together . 542990_545160 *LARR: Yeah ⌉ . 543140_543470 *SETH: (..) into one Y-branch 545300_546960 (.) you know like the room . 546960_548050 *LARR: (..) Mhm . 548050_548880 *SETH: (..) the room is shaped somewhat like this . 551000_552890 *SETH: (..) &{l=X I could &}l=X put like one there 554470_556590 (..) one there . 557440_558430 *LARR: Now what we'd want you to do 558430_559690 in this case 559690_560440 is maybe +... 560440_561400 *SETH: (.) tie those together like that . 561400_563100 *LARR: (.) See this this +/. 563100_563920 *LARR: The end of this room might be modified . 563920_565940 *LARR: (..) So 565940_566940 (..) all we wanna know is 566940_568780 (..) is that we can eventually be able to do this . 568780_571690 *LARR: (..) Alright . 572160_572780 *LARR: (..) To to get ʔuh (.) get this: (..) duct work done 572780_576590 when we do +/. 576590_577070 *LARR: when we do the modification to ⌈ the ⌉ +... 577070_578990 *SETH: ⌊ Oh ⌋ 578840_578990 so you may not do the duct work at this point ? 578990_580730 *LARR: ⌈ Not (.) not in this room . 580730_582000 *SETH: ⌊ X (.) XX (.) do it in the future ⌋ . 580730_582360 *LARR: We m- ⌉ +/. 582000_582370 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 582380_582980 *LARR: (.) ⌈ Uh I I hate ⌉ to see us do it . 582980_584800 *SETH: ⌊ &{l=X Where are gonna be your &}l=X ⌋ +... 582980_583780 *LARR: &=in although if we do it in the ⌈2 sidewalls ⌉2 . 584900_587030 *SETH: ⌊2 Well what would ⌋2 the modification be . 586080_587910 *LARR: (..) Oh we might take this out 588030_589590 (.) and we might push this out further 589590_591370 and 591370_591870 (.) uh 592580_593070 (.) well 593070_593320 here's the drawings 593320_594080 right here . 594080_594570 *LARR: (..) &{l=% Uh: 597860_598790 (..) &{l=P let's see: 606110_607630 (.) that's the guest house . 607630_609100 *LARR: (..) Where is that sucker &}l=P &}l=% . 610570_612270 *SETH: (..) Dining room ? 612260_613670 *LARR: (..) &=tsk &=in Yeah . 614690_615900 *LARR: (.) Yeah 615900_616210 I +/. 616210_616420 *LARR: It's right +/. 616420_617040 *LARR: i- +/. 617040_617360 *LARR: (.) here ⌈ it i- here it i- ⌉ here it is right here . 617360_618870 *SETH: ⌊ Is this the wall ⌋ . 617360_618140 *LARR: you can see that +/. 618870_619920 *LARR: &=in this is the current ⌈ wall ⌉ . 619920_621090 *SETH: ⌊ oh ⌋ okay 620830_621260 so are you gonna go out ⌈2 like (.) three feet or so ⌉2 . 621260_623070 *LARR: ⌊2 So we might +/. 621660_622450 *LARR: (.) we might ⌋2 +/. 622450_623060 *LARR: (.) we might ʔuh: (.) ⌈3 do a little modification . 623060_625800 *SETH: ⌊3 a tape- (.) tapered uh (.) corners ⌋3 . 624320_626450 *LARR: (.) A tapered ⌉3 corner there . 625800_627260 *LARR: &=in So we might do (.) a little (.) of that . 627270_629240 *SETH: (.) Okay . 629300_629680 *LARR: But 629660_629880 (.) if you're gonna (..) put it in h- (.) this end wall 629880_632580 then 632580_632940 (.) maybe it wouldn't be affected . 632940_634400 *LARR: (..) That one might down there . 636680_638000 *LARR: (.) Because 638000_638530 we might uh . 638530_639630 *SETH: (..) ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 640460_640930 *LARR: ⌊ XX ⌋ . 640460_640930 *SETH: see well . 640930_641630 *LARR: (.) &=in See ⌈ eventually &{l=X we have s- &}l=X ⌉ +... 642040_643260 *SETH: ⌊ you know you're right . 642040_642830 *SETH: (.) Cause I ⌋ +/. 642830_643250 *SETH: (.) cause we're looking at right there 643250_644510 (..) course 645050_645510 (.) now you gonna go out +... 645510_646400 *LARR: (.) That's right . 646360_646860 *LARR: See we're opening this . 646860_647880 *SETH: That's ⌈ gonna go that way ⌉ . 647690_648750 *LARR: ⌊ that +/. 647890_648160 *LARR: (.) &{l=X it's &}l=X ⌋ +/. 648160_648440 *LARR: (.) that that that's going out to this master 648500_650510 (.) which is gonna go up on the hill . 650510_652340 *SETH: (..) Aw 652570_652900 so you'll need +/. 652900_653430 *SETH: (.) What about (.) heating for that . 653430_654580 *LARR: (.) Well 654580_655070 (.) what we're gonna do is put uh (.) radiated heat . 655070_657650 *SETH: (.) Okay . 657880_658330 *LARR: In- in there . 658280_659020 *SETH: (.) ⌈ That'll be a slab ⌉ floor then . 659010_660250 *LARR: ⌊ For sure ⌋ . 659020_659730 *LARR: Yeah 659960_660230 yeah . 660230_660720 *LARR: (.) &=in ⌈ Uh ⌉ . 660970_661800 *SETH: ⌊ So that ⌋ one might change . 661520_663500 *LARR: (..) &=in ⌈2 Yeah ⌉2 . 663850_664790 *SETH: ⌊2 uh: ⌋2 . 663850_664790 *LARR: (.) I- that's a that's a good point . 664800_666280 *LARR: I've (.) I I'm not (.) uh 666280_668350 (..) we were th- +... 669160_669860 *SETH: (..) The only thing i:s 670130_670970 (.) I don't know how long 670990_671660 is that gonna be like (..) in the future 671680_673210 like a year down the road ? 673210_674530 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 674650_675140 *LARR: (.) ⌈ Probably ⌉ . 675150_675460 *SETH: ⌊ Cause it ⌋ would be nice to have heat in here &=in in the meantime . 675140_677810 *SETH: (..) I mean say you do the furnace 678430_679830 (..) It would be nice to have it (.) for this winter . 680030_681860 *LARR: Well let me work that out with my wife . 681860_683410 *LARR: (..) Put that as a +... 683530_684480 *SETH: (.) But one thing you can do 684480_685500 even if you do a modification 685500_687140 you can move the register . 687140_688310 *SETH: (..) I mean say we put the register right (..) h:ere 688830_692730 (.) and that's gonna b- +/. 692730_693600 *SETH: ʔuh: that would obviously have to be moved 693610_695200 (..) you know 695490_695990 it's not a ⌈ big deal ⌉ to move it from here to here . 695990_697810 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 696300_696720 *SETH: You might have to add a piece of duct work 697810_699350 &=in but it's not gonna be a major change . 699350_701360 *LARR: Okay . 701350_701970 *LARR: (..) Okay . 702080_702650 *SETH: (..) And this one you may not have to move at all . 703720_705240 *SETH: That may be okay . 705240_706330 *LARR: (..) Alright . 707580_708040 *SETH: (..) But then that's probably how I'd do it 708570_709920 some- (.) something like that 709920_710820 or 710820_711250 if I had the registers (.) going that way 711250_712990 (..) that might be the best way to do it . 713810_715400 *SETH: (..) It'd be like for- fourteen by six . 715420_718000 *LARR: (..) &=SNIFF &=SNIFF &=SNIFF . 718940_720450 *SETH: I mean that would probably be an eight-inch duct 720150_721580 that'd be an eight-inch 721580_722340 that'd be a ten-inch 722340_723310 (..) and then the furnace 724840_725620 I don't know 725620_725950 it's somewhere over there &=ex ⌈ in that area ⌉ . 725950_727980 *LARR: ⌊ Furnace: ⌋ (.) ⌈2 is: ⌉2 +... 727110_729010 *SETH: ⌊2 I'm not sure how many feet ⌋2 . 728020_729420 *LARR: Well the furnace sits down 729030_730660 (.) over in this 730660_731870 (..) this corner over here . 732220_733670 *LARR: (..) That's where the furnace is . 734600_736090 *SETH: (..) One . 737100_737650 *SETH: (..) Two . 737650_738230 *LARR: (.) Probab⌈ly ⌉ right (..) in here . 738230_741330 *SETH: ⌊ Three ⌋ . 738450_738810 *LARR: (..) And now +/. 742750_743160 *LARR: That's probably what- +/. 743160_744030 *LARR: that's one of the +... 744030_744760 *SETH: That's about ⌈ thirty ⌉ +... 744760_745790 *LARR: +, ⌊ key ⌋ 745320_745470 my key ⌈2 concerns ⌉2 . 745470_747100 *SETH: ⌊2 about thirty-six ⌋2 feet across . 746010_747580 *LARR: is th- (.) is the how noisy the furnace is . 747580_750130 *LARR: (..) That's a real concern to me . 750800_752260 *LARR: (..) A:nd uh 753600_754480 I don't know what they've got these days 754480_756070 (.) if they're all +/. 756070_756690 *LARR: (.) ʔuh: I know there's pulse type furnaces 756690_758660 which evidently are kinda lou:d or something . 758660_760780 *SETH: Oh yeah . 760780_761560 *SETH: (..) Yeah . 761560_761920 *SETH: Lennox pulse . 761920_762680 *SETH: &=laugh &=laugh . 762680_763000 *LARR: oh ⌈ really [% laugh] ⌉ ? 763000_763740 *SETH: ⌊ &=in ⌋ That's a loud one . 763230_764440 *LARR: Is it ? 764440_764870 *SETH: &=in ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 764860_765180 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X Really &}l=X ⌋ . 764870_765320 *SETH: I've put a few of those in 765180_766200 ⌈ and they ⌉ . 766200_766890 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X Have you &}l=X ⌋ . 766200_766890 *SETH: &=in (.) I've had problems . 766890_767790 *SETH: I wouldn't go with the Lennox pulse . 767790_769210 *LARR: Okay . 769220_769770 *SETH: (..) If I go ⌈ with a: ⌉ uh . 770180_771220 *LARR: ⌊ Well ⌋ . 770660_771200 *SETH: I'd probably go with the Carrier . 771220_772650 *SETH: (..) Carrier furnace . 772650_773880 *SETH: &=in The return grill's plenty big enough . 773880_775720 *LARR: (.) yeah . 775720_776040 *LARR: It's a big ⌈ return . 776040_777160 *SETH: ⌊ I mean I can't +/. 776330_777160 *SETH: you can't ⌋ have any kind of problem ⌈2 there ⌉2 . 777160_778910 *LARR: and a ⌉ +/. 777160_777770 *LARR: ⌊2 and ⌋2 and the pipes are big enough 778300_779900 so: 779900_780310 and that's normally when you get +/. 780310_781740 *LARR: (.) you get (.) a lot of noise (.) in the house . 781740_784220 *LARR: &=in Is if your: +/. 784420_786150 *LARR: (..) if your uh (..) ducts are too small . 786370_788990 *LARR: Right ? 788990_789330 *SETH: Right . 789330_789790 *SETH: (.) &=in Yeah 790520_790750 y- the two main sources of noise 790760_792450 (.) are either 792450_793230 (..) uh: 794690_795300 (..) air noise 795720_796550 (.) which is due to undersized grills . 796550_798520 *LARR: Really ? 798420_798880 *SETH: you got air rushing through there at high velocity . 798880_800990 *SETH: &=in The other source of noise is th- (.) is the fan motor itself . 801040_804250 *SETH: &=in . 804250_804450 *LARR: In the- in the actual +... 804410_805780 *SETH: (.) In the (.) unit itself . 805780_807190 *LARR: Unhunh . 806940_807350 *SETH: And that's usually solved by b- 807190_808490 just having flexible duct between the unit (.) and the d- and the registers 809010_812710 so that it dampens out the noise . 812710_814370 *SETH: &=in In other words if we had the furnace like right behind that wall: 814650_817480 &=in it would be noisy . 817480_818740 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 818610_819130 *SETH: But we're going d- +/. 819130_819740 *SETH: I'm not sure how it (.) connects 819740_821280 (..) did we see that down there ? 821540_822820 *SETH: (..) I'll have to go down and take a look at that again ⌈ but . 823050_824990 *LARR: ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 824390_824980 *SETH: &=in ⌉ I imagine it goes dow:n 825040_826670 (.) &=in and then we can run some kind of a flexible duct to the unit . 826820_829000 *SETH: As long as I can get say ten feet or so between that and the unit 829000_832010 (.) &=in ⌈ then I ⌉ +... 832350_833130 *LARR: ⌊ You can ⌋ . 832620_833130 *SETH: (.) then I can: uh (..) eliminate th- (.) the noise problem . 833130_836170 *LARR: (.) Alright . 836170_836840 *SETH: (..) So it's basically thirty by thirty 840020_841690 (..) return air . 842470_843550 *SETH: (..) Thirty by thirty return air . 844870_847090 *LARR: (..) And this is a uh: 849270_850500 this is the only return 850500_851830 and I'd: +/. 851830_852320 *LARR: I would ⌈ say not +... 852320_853320 *SETH: ⌊ Oh this is return also ⌋ ? 852850_854110 *LARR: (.) not placed ⌉ 853320_854110 (.) not placed very well 854110_855260 in the room . 855260_856040 *SETH: (..) ⌈ This is ⌉ +... 856770_857160 *LARR: ⌊ So ⌋ . 856770_857160 *SETH: this is supply though . 857160_857990 *SETH: Right ? 857990_858420 *LARR: (..) this is the supply . 858880_859810 *LARR: Right . 859810_860190 *SETH: Okay . 860040_860690 *SETH: (..) &=in Yeah . 860700_862080 *LARR: (.) See 862230_862670 and I'd &=ex +/. 862670_863560 *LARR: (.) Where would you suggest (.) they would go . 863580_865310 *LARR: If uh 865310_865990 (.) if we put uh . 865990_867240 *SETH: (..) Boy . 867340_867940 *SETH: (.) I would say g- 867950_868530 I'd probably go with two . 868530_869730 *SETH: (..) I'd put one on each side 870460_871550 I'd probably put one like right underneath that window there 871560_873930 (..) and maybe underneath that window . 874660_876300 *SETH: (..) Be nice to put it behind the couch 876930_878510 but then you've +/. 878510_878960 *SETH: it would be blocked off too much . 878970_880450 *LARR: (..) And you thi- +/. 880790_881090 *LARR: you so you (.) you p- you try and put em: under windows 881090_883730 where (.) that's where ⌈ your ⌉ +... 883730_884990 *SETH: ⌊ &=ex ⌋ (.) Yeah . 884990_885260 *SETH: I try to ⌈ put em ⌉ on: (.) the cold- +... 885260_886730 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ +... 885660_885860 *SETH: basically the coldest part of the room &=ex . 886740_888190 *LARR: Okay . 888180_888840 *SETH: (..) &=tsk Because uh 889140_890840 (..) it just helps 892560_893380 ʔy: (.) because otherwise 893380_894740 ʔyou know 894740_895090 with a grill right here 895090_896550 &=in (.) you end up having cold spots on the sides . 896610_898870 *LARR: Mhm . 898870_899270 *SETH: Cause what happens is 899270_900130 the air goes b:ack to the return grill 900130_902390 &=in ⌈ so it never really . 902590_903650 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X It wouldn't get &}l=X out circulating through ⌋ +... 902580_904440 *SETH: it never really blows ⌉ out (.) to the corners . 903650_905530 *LARR: ⌈2 Right ⌉2 . 905530_905910 *SETH: ⌊2 So that's why I ⌋2 try to put it (.) as far away &=in on the perimeter 905530_908510 and have it pull across the room . 908510_910370 *LARR: (..) Okay . 910720_911040 *LARR: well this is the on⌈ly +... 911050_911860 *SETH: ⌊ So I don't know if you'd wanna ⌋ +... 911730_912870 *LARR: (.) ʔuh the only the only ⌉ other addition room 912060_913830 where we thought maybe registers would be important . 913830_916350 *LARR: (..) And I'd 917080_917760 (.) I don't know if 917760_919220 (..) uh: 919440_920260 (..) floor registers ? 920720_921900 *LARR: Are there +/. 921900_922250 *LARR: are- th- i- i- i- is- d- does it +/. 922250_923740 *LARR: (.) that's not a good idea these days ? 923750_925980 *SETH: (..) No 926080_926390 I would go with floor registers in this house 926400_927820 cause you got high ceilings . 927820_928950 *LARR: (.) ʔuh ⌈ XX ⌉ . 928950_929850 *SETH: ⌊ Well in fact ⌋ 928950_929850 you wouldn't be able to &=in put any kind of ceiling register in . 929850_933180 *SETH: (..) Cause you get the second floor . 933300_934560 *LARR: Right . 934560_935310 *SETH: (..) So 936110_936530 no . 936530_936700 *SETH: Floor registers are fine 936700_937810 for heating . 937810_938460 *LARR: (..) But th- +/. 939840_940210 *LARR: you're talking about wa:ll regis- +/. 940210_941530 *LARR: (.) putting em in the wall here . 941530_942890 *SETH: (..) No 943400_943700 I was- I was thinking about putting em in the floor . 943700_945160 *LARR: Oh in the floor ? 945170_945920 *SETH: (.) Yeah to- +/. 945920_946400 *SETH: (..) to go in the wa:ll 946400_947440 would be (.) pretty tough . 947440_948660 *LARR: Okay . 948680_949270 *LARR: (..) Alright . 949280_949880 *SETH: I don't know if you wanna cut the floor though . 949880_951680 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 951690_952150 *LARR: (.) Well I hate to do it right there . 952150_953650 *LARR: May- maybe we'd do it right in here . 953650_955220 *SETH: (..) Yeah . 955710_956300 *SETH: (..) But to get in the wall ⌈ would be ⌉ almost +... 956840_958740 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ . 957650_958120 *SETH: (..) I mean you can do that during new construction 958920_960710 but it's tough (.) when you're coming back after the fact 960710_962770 cause &{l=X you: just &}l=X got 962770_963670 &=in . 963670_963970 *LARR: Sure . 963950_964320 *SETH: your- your two-by-four framing 964320_966050 (..) and it's just too tough to get in there . 966640_968470 *LARR: (..) Okay . 968540_969500 *LARR: (..) Alright . 971300_971570 *LARR: So we'd put a couple in this room somewhere ? 971570_973810 *LARR: (..) ⌈ And then uh ⌉ . 975180_976140 *SETH: ⌊ So this is like ⌋ a: family room ? 975180_977220 *SETH: Is that what this is ? 977220_978020 *LARR: (.) Uh: 978020_978330 it's kinda like a lo- +/. 978330_979240 *LARR: kinda a little (..) parlor 979240_981420 library 981420_981990 something 981990_982550 (..) resembles +... 984370_985420 *SETH: (..) Alright . 1001570_1002370 *LARR: (..) XXX 1003520_1004870 (..) XXXX . 1004870_1007780 *LARR: (..) This is a register 1007880_1008900 so that's okay . 1008900_1010170 *LARR: (..) Cause it's (.) under there . 1010170_1011680 *SETH: (.) Okay . 1012030_1012670 *LARR: (.) the bathroom has a register 1012660_1014540 (..) &=in now that was it . 1014880_1016620 *LARR: (.) ⌈ XXX ⌉ . 1016620_1017200 *SETH: ⌊ How about ⌋ the uh thermostat . 1016620_1018380 *LARR: (..) This guy ? 1020300_1020940 *SETH: (..) Okay . 1022190_1022670 *SETH: (.) I would definitely go with a new thermostat . 1022670_1024390 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1024390_1025110 *LARR: (..) Kind of a ⌈ (.) X antique . 1026690_1027910 *SETH: ⌊ But that's probably a good +/. 1026690_1027910 *SETH: (.) that's probably ⌋ a good spot . 1027910_1028860 *LARR: isn't it ⌉ . 1027910_1028180 *SETH: Yeah 1028860_1029040 that should be in a museum . 1029040_1030380 *LARR: (..) &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 1030380_1032290 (..) Uh 1033270_1033960 (.) I don't know . 1033960_1034680 *LARR: (.) I- i- are we doing the right +/. 1034680_1035950 *LARR: If I'm supposed to kinda walk you around the house here ? 1035950_1038160 *LARR: Is that what uh +... 1038160_1038990 *SETH: (..) Yeah . 1039940_1040490 *SETH: Do you think . 1040490_1040920 *ENV: &=RADIO_BECOMES_INAUDIBLE . 1039200_1040580 *SETH: (.) well 1040920_1041300 (.) I guess you ⌈ haven't really ⌉ +... 1041310_1042330 *LARR: ⌊ I don't know ⌋ if there's anything you need to do up here . 1041630_1043960 *LARR: Other than the fact &{l=X just &}l=X kinda know that we've got em . 1043960_1046350 *SETH: (.) Yeah 1046430_1046720 you haven't (.) r- really lived in the house (.) during the winter . 1046720_1049440 *SETH: Have you ? 1049440_1049770 *LARR: No . 1049770_1050230 *LARR: (.) &=laugh &=laugh 1050230_1050790 ⌈ &=in And that's what we th- +... 1050790_1051840 *SETH: ⌊ So you don't really know: 1050790_1051840 if there's a ⌋ +... 1051840_1052340 *LARR: See and that's what ⌉ we thought we would do 1051840_1053630 uh &=ex . 1053630_1053990 *SETH: So you're not really sure if there's any problems 1054240_1056090 (..) with heating certain areas . 1056380_1057830 *LARR: (.) That's right . 1057830_1058460 *LARR: (..) ⌈ so &{l=X I sa- &}l=X ⌉ +... 1058600_1059260 *SETH: ⌊ So we don't know ⌋ if there's any particular areas 1058600_1060480 like that b- +/. 1060480_1060920 *SETH: I bet you that parlor room has had a hard time 1060920_1063220 (..) in the past . 1063220_1063980 *LARR: &=laugh ⌈ &{l=@ Do you think it's pretty ⌉ cool in there &}l=@ ? 1063840_1066180 *SETH: ⌊ Just (.) that one grill ⌋ . 1064200_1065350 *LARR: &=in And then this guy has a (..) register 1066220_1069350 so . 1069350_1069620 *SETH: Oh they got AC up here too . 1069620_1071050 *LARR: (..) yeah . 1071890_1072470 *LARR: (.) I n- I think that's gonna go . 1072470_1073790 *SETH: (..) Well uh 1074900_1075350 (.) ⌈ especially if ⌉ you get the forced air ⌈2 &=in ⌉2 heating and cooling . 1075360_1077880 *LARR: ⌊ Well ⌋ 1075390_1075850 ⌊2 Yes ⌋2 . 1076800_1077310 *SETH: you won't need that . 1077880_1078740 *LARR: (.) One little guy there . 1078900_1080310 *SETH: (.) Yeah see these aren't (..) strategically placed either 1080400_1082770 but you've (.) pretty much got no choice . 1082770_1084650 *SETH: (.) &=in (..) On most of these 1085720_1086680 these +/. 1086680_1086860 *SETH: it's almost impossible to (..) to change these now 1086860_1089900 (..) but really on the second floor . 1090740_1092350 *LARR: (..) This one's ⌈ not too bad ⌉ . 1092440_1093850 *SETH: ⌊ &=in ⌋ the heat (.) the heat's gonna rise 1093850_1094800 (.) from the first floor anyway . 1094800_1095880 *LARR: Yeah up to- +/. 1095880_1096340 *LARR: You ⌈ know . 1096340_1096870 *SETH: ⌊ So: I ⌋ +... 1096550_1097300 *LARR: And it'll ⌉ hold it in here real ⌈2 well ⌉2 . 1096870_1098560 *SETH: ⌊2 Yeah ⌋2 . 1098110_1098550 *SETH: (.) Typically 1098550_1098920 and- if anything you have ʔuh overheating problems . 1098920_1101340 *LARR: (.) Mm . 1101370_1101900 *LARR: ⌈ Yeah . 1101900_1102440 *SETH: ⌊ On the second floor ⌋ . 1101850_1102690 *LARR: &=in Well ⌉ see that's what we wanted to do 1102440_1103720 is have some kind of a system 1103720_1104990 that we know we can shut off . 1104990_1106930 *LARR: (..) Certain (.) certain areas . 1108120_1109860 *LARR: Like if w- +... 1109860_1110620 *SETH: (.) One of the things we could do 1110620_1111560 I don't think they have any dampers here . 1111560_1113000 *SETH: Do they ? 1113000_1113480 *SETH: (.) &=in (..) Oh they do . 1114680_1115990 *LARR: (..) &=in Yeah . 1118320_1118990 *SETH: (..) ⌈ So you can close off ⌉ +... 1119530_1120600 *LARR: ⌊ Oh okay . 1119530_1120210 *LARR: (.) &{l=X So that's ⌋ how it's &}l=X +... 1120210_1121310 *SETH: (..) Yeah you can close off ⌈2 (.) individual d- ⌉2 +... 1121410_1123270 *LARR: ⌊2 Close these off ⌋2 . 1122320_1123270 *SETH: (..) ⌈3 &=in ⌉3 . 1123580_1124230 *LARR: ⌊3 and then the- ⌋3 +/. 1123580_1124230 *LARR: (.) then it'll force the air what . 1124230_1125650 *LARR: (.) Down into +... 1125660_1126890 *SETH: (..) &=in Downstairs . 1127170_1128180 *SETH: ⌈ Now . 1128180_1128380 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ . 1128170_1128470 *SETH: the ⌉ one thing you don't wanna do though 1128380_1129630 is close off: (.) too many of em . 1129630_1131950 *LARR: (..) ⌈ Cause then you put a strain on the⌉: +... 1132430_1134410 *SETH: ⌊ Cause (.) cause then you're uh: ⌋ +/. 1132430_1134410 *SETH: (.) yeah 1134420_1134750 you've gotta have a certain amount of air 1134750_1136200 &=in for the furnace to work properly . 1136390_1138110 *SETH: (..) And if you reduce the airflow too much 1138110_1140330 (.) &=in then it won't have enough air going across (.) the heat exchanger 1140850_1143530 and it'll +/. 1143530_1143830 *SETH: (.) it'll overheat the heat exchanger . 1143830_1145180 *LARR: Oh . 1145180_1145490 *LARR: (.) Really ? 1145490_1145870 *LARR: (.) Okay . 1145870_1146480 *SETH: (..) So I would say . 1147260_1147990 *ENV: &=RADIO_BECOMES_AUDIBLE . 1148780_1150750 *SETH: you don't want to close more than uh 1147990_1149710 (..) more than about twenty-five percent of em . 1151000_1153130 *SETH: (..) Or you can close em 1155140_1156110 ʔy: you know 1156110_1156570 if you close em uh ʔa:- a hundred percent . 1156570_1158580 *SETH: If you close em all the way 1158580_1159990 (..) you probably don't want to shut more than &=ex twenty-five percent of em . 1161990_1164290 *SETH: All the way . 1164290_1164950 *LARR: (..) &=ex &=lengthened . 1165490_1167220 *SETH: (..) Which would b- +/. 1167250_1167940 *SETH: (.) I'm not sure 1167940_1168680 &=in maybe all upstairs 1168680_1170220 (..) &=in you might wanna leave em cracked open just a little bit ⌈ though . 1170950_1172940 *LARR: ⌊ Unhunh ⌋ ? 1172760_1173210 *SETH: Just ⌉ to make sure you get enough air . 1172940_1174270 *LARR: Yeah . 1174250_1174490 *SETH: (..) &=in But 1175550_1176400 okay 1176400_1176810 so we'd be looking at adding two 1176810_1178820 (..) two registers for that (.) parlor room ? 1178990_1181090 *LARR: (..) Adding two to that ⌈ parlor room ⌉ . 1181660_1183320 *SETH: ⌊ And then what about that one ⌋ . 1182510_1183280 *SETH: Do you wanna hold off on that ? 1183280_1184410 *LARR: Well 1184410_1184710 maybe we should jus:t +... 1184710_1185890 *SETH: (..) Or would you wanna do at least one of em ? 1186190_1187980 *LARR: (..) &=tsk ʔuh: I think we should do something 1189240_1190510 yeah . 1190510_1190790 *LARR: Only because +... 1190800_1192030 *SETH: (.) Because if that ⌈ (.) remodel's a year away then ⌉ . 1192620_1195100 *LARR: ⌊ I I th- +/. 1192990_1193610 *LARR: &{l=X I guess I th- &}l=X +/. 1193610_1194070 *LARR: I think ⌋ this thing is gonna be a cold little +... 1194070_1196240 *SETH: (.) oh 1196520_1196760 I can def⌈initely see [% laugh] that &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 1196760_1198180 *LARR: ⌊ I (.) I I can tell you ⌋ that 1197390_1198640 because the windows . 1198640_1200250 *SETH: (.) See you only &{l=X like &}l=X +/. 1200270_1200830 *SETH: (.) the only heat you have in this room 1200830_1201900 is that (.) one register over there . 1201900_1203490 *LARR: (.) the windows in this thing are &{n=THUMP &=nonvocal &=nonvocal just a &=nonvocal bout &=nonvocal ready &=nonvocal to &=nonvocal &=nonvocal fall out . 1203480_1207330 *LARR: &=nonvocal I &=nonvocal mean &=nonvocal they're &}n=THUMP +/. 1207330_1208210 *LARR: (.) they're not +/. 1208210_1208790 *LARR: (.) Look at this . 1208790_1209440 *LARR: (..) So I know there's gonna be a lot of uh +... 1209680_1212110 *SETH: (..) A lotta infiltration . 1212620_1213740 *LARR: Yeah . 1213550_1213970 *LARR: Until we get this corrected . 1213970_1215490 *SETH: (..) See hopefully you'll go with double-pane glass on your remodel . 1215490_1218680 *LARR: (..) X⌈XX ⌉ . 1218610_1219560 *SETH: ⌊ That'll help ⌋ cut down a lot . 1218680_1220570 *LARR: Yeah . 1220560_1220960 *SETH: On your +... 1220960_1221200 *LARR: Yeah . 1221200_1221490 *SETH: +, heat loss . 1221490_1222230 *LARR: (..) So 1222400_1222900 (.) I mean 1222900_1223310 (.) ʔuh: in some ways 1223310_1224830 having windows 1224830_1225690 (.) is it a bad idea ? 1225690_1226710 *LARR: Because you get a lot of natural (.) heat from the the s- from sun . 1226710_1229680 *SETH: (.) ⌈ That's right ⌉ . 1229680_1230630 *LARR: ⌊ &{l=X You know &}l=X ⌋ . 1229680_1230630 *SETH: (.) Okay this is like it would ⌈2 get ⌉2 +... 1230630_1231510 *LARR: ⌊2 So ⌋2 . 1231250_1231700 *SETH: This is like east facing . 1231510_1232700 *SETH: Right ? 1232700_1233040 *SETH: &=in . 1233040_1233270 *LARR: Yeah . 1233270_1233680 *LARR: The ⌈ s- in in ⌉ +... 1233680_1234590 *SETH: ⌊ So you get some morning ⌋ sun . 1233740_1234910 *LARR: You get the morning 1234910_1235430 in the winter 1235430_1235960 it's gonna come right across like ⌈ this ⌉ . 1235960_1237700 *SETH: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 1237190_1237700 *LARR: So 1237700_1237980 ⌈ XX ⌉ . 1237980_1238130 *SETH: ⌊ So that's gonna be ⌋ good . 1237710_1238660 *LARR: So that'll be good . 1238630_1239420 *LARR: So maybe one register in here for the moment 1239420_1241510 (.) until we kinda feel it out ⌈ would be: uh ⌉ . 1241510_1243820 *SETH: ⌊ &=SNIFF (.) Sure ⌋ . 1242720_1243820 *SETH: (.) I mean this one it looks like 1243820_1245060 (.) if we put a register over here 1245060_1246470 &=in (.) you wouldn't have to change it anyway . 1246490_1248430 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1248690_1249180 *LARR: (.) No that (.) ⌈ that ⌉ +... 1249180_1249840 *SETH: ⌊ With your ⌋ remodel 1249350_1250280 that might (.) work into it . 1250280_1251590 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 1251590_1252160 *SETH: (.) And like I say 1252160_1252790 even i- +/. 1252790_1253090 *SETH: even if you do have to move it 1253090_1254400 (.) &=in it's not X a big deal . 1254440_1255820 *SETH: (..) I mean ⌈ somebody ⌉ (..) just moves it . 1256220_1258050 *LARR: ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 1256440_1257170 *SETH: (.) you know 1258050_1258270 a carpenter can do it even . 1258270_1259350 *SETH: You don't even need to have us come out and do it really . 1259360_1261330 *SETH: (..) You might have to add a- +/. 1261390_1262480 *SETH: (.) buy a piece of flexible duct and stick it on there 1262480_1264660 but ⌈ it's not a ⌉ +... 1264660_1265380 *LARR: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 1264750_1265320 *SETH: (..) not a big deal . 1265320_1266350 *LARR: (.) Okay . 1266350_1266950 *LARR: (..) Alright . 1267580_1268760 *SETH: (..) Okay ? 1269400_1270180 *LARR: Well that sounds good . 1270040_1270940 *SETH: Well let me check (.) downstairs again 1270940_1272190 I gotta take some measurements on that ⌈ room ⌉ . 1272190_1274020 *LARR: ⌊ O⌋kay . 1273860_1274400 *LARR: (.) Well now you get +/. 1274400_1275220 *LARR: you've got the logistics of every- +/. 1275220_1276510 *LARR: Oh: wait . 1276510_1277100 *LARR: (.) ⌈ &{l=X And then I think &}l=X ⌉ my wife . 1277100_1278520 *SETH: ⌊ Now you +/. 1277080_1277380 *SETH: (.) now you say about ⌋ +... 1277380_1278100 *LARR: (.) my wife said she would like (.) to have a register put in this room . 1278540_1282110 *LARR: (..) And I think it's kinda weird 1282550_1283990 but 1283990_1284230 (..) &=ex what do you think . 1285940_1287350 *LARR: (..) Why would ⌈ she ⌉ +... 1288500_1289280 *SETH: ⌊ What is ⌋ this +/. 1288830_1289280 *SETH: ⌈2 what is this room used for ⌉2 . 1289280_1290330 *LARR: ⌊2 &=tsk &=in Well 1289280_1290000 even⌋2tually this is gonna be 1290000_1291660 &=in (..) uh: &=ex 1292130_1294460 (..) &=tsk (..) and we're gonna open this up . 1297020_1298760 *LARR: We're gonna take out some of these shelves 1298760_1300530 and get some light to come through here . 1300530_1302510 *SETH: (..) This is ⌈ sort of ⌉ like a pantry ? 1302770_1304060 *LARR: ⌊ But ⌋ 1302970_1303180 kinda pantry area . 1304090_1305270 *LARR: (.) But it's gonna be &=in an extension of the kitchen . 1305270_1308090 *LARR: (..) Kind of . 1308090_1308600 *LARR: So 1308600_1309280 (..) &=in I don't know if ʔuh +... 1309280_1310600 *SETH: I'd +/. 1310600_1310840 *SETH: (.) Yeah 1310840_1311040 I'd put +/. 1311040_1311290 *SETH: I'd probably put one like right there . 1311290_1312670 *SETH: (..) ⌈ About right ⌉ there . 1313030_1313670 *LARR: ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 1313030_1313480 *SETH: You gonna be putting ⌈2 anything ⌉2 there ? 1313670_1314990 *LARR: ⌊2 &{l=X &{l=WH I think &}l=WH &}l=X ⌋2 +... 1314140_1314620 *SETH: (..) Probably something's gonna go there . 1315790_1316870 *SETH: Right ? 1316870_1317110 *SETH: A [% laugh] table or something ? 1317110_1318290 *LARR: (..) &=in I don't know . 1318290_1319380 *LARR: (..) I 1319380_1319860 ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 1319860_1320140 *SETH: ⌊ Cause that's ⌋ about the only spot (.) you can put it . 1319860_1321530 *SETH: Well 1321530_1321770 I mean y- we could put a- +/. 1321770_1322670 *SETH: we could put a floor r- (.) floor register right (.) along here 1322670_1325230 I don't know if you'd want that . 1325230_1326360 *SETH: (..) But that's probably where I'd put it . 1327590_1328790 *SETH: (.) In fact the one that I was gonna put in there 1328790_1330340 ⌈ I'd probably ⌉ +... 1330340_1330770 *LARR: ⌊ We might have ⌋ trouble getting to this spot though . 1330340_1332260 *LARR: I think . 1332260_1332720 *SETH: You think so ? 1332720_1333380 *LARR: (.) Yeah . 1333380_1333670 *LARR: (.) Cause it starts getting real tight up there on this end . 1333670_1336180 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1337020_1337760 *LARR: (..) &=in Well 1338050_1338990 (.) let's uh . 1338990_1339870 *SETH: (..) Maybe on this end ? 1340720_1341780 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1342750_1343060 *LARR: (.) It would have to be: 1343060_1344010 (..) if anywhere 1345740_1346500 (.) it'd have to be ⌈ down ⌉ . 1346500_1347340 *SETH: ⌊ X that's ⌋ not a bad spot . 1347080_1348700 *LARR: (..) okay . 1350470_1351170 *SETH: (.) It's gonna help out 1351170_1351950 cause I +/. 1351950_1352250 *SETH: (.) See this whole area 1352250_1353300 &=in you've just got that one grill . 1353300_1354870 *SETH: (..) It's a pretty good-sized area right here . 1355740_1357560 *LARR: (..) &=in Okay . 1359460_1360160 *SETH: What about ⌈ the kitchen ⌉ . 1360160_1360900 *LARR: ⌊ Well let's ⌋ +/. 1360160_1360710 *LARR: (.) let's consider ⌈2 that ⌉2 +... 1360760_1361730 *SETH: ⌊2 Kitchen's ⌋2 got one ? 1361370_1362350 *LARR: (..) kitchen's got one right here . 1363000_1364500 *SETH: (..) Yeah 1364510_1364940 okay . 1364940_1365490 *LARR: (..) and uh 1366260_1367700 (..) I'm not too worried about the kitchen . 1368160_1369600 *LARR: I don't like hot kitchens anyway . 1369600_1371410 *LARR: (..) Cause I mean y- +/. 1372570_1373100 *LARR: you got a stove going 1373100_1374200 and +/. 1374200_1374520 *LARR: (..) &{l=VOX Ah we're in good shape that way &=ex &}l=VOX . 1377630_1379830 *LARR: (.) ah . 1381010_1381540 *LARR: (.) Wait a minute . 1381540_1382000 *LARR: (.) &{l=X Did &}l=X I forget something else 1382010_1383390 too . 1383390_1383850 *LARR: (..) Ah: yeah . 1388950_1390170 *LARR: We're gonna have to put a register out here . 1390170_1392050 *LARR: (..) Because y- 1396950_1397600 this (.) this wall is eventually gonna come out . 1397600_1399900 *LARR: (..) And so: uh: . 1401230_1402650 *SETH: (.) Utility room . 1402760_1403770 *LARR: (..) utility room 1403980_1404830 but it's gonna eventually be part of the kitchen . 1404830_1406840 *LARR: (..) And we're moving the utility room . 1407800_1409660 *LARR: (..) So: 1412140_1413000 (..) and this: . 1415160_1416240 *LARR: T- [% laugh] +/. 1416240_1416820 *LARR: (..) This is a joke . 1416820_1417560 *LARR: (.) N_look at this . 1417560_1418660 *SETH: (..) &=SNIFF . 1419840_1420600 *LARR: (..) &=ex . 1420680_1421350 *SETH: (.) ⌈ &=tsk Well ⌉ some of these . 1421350_1422370 *LARR: ⌊ X ⌋ 1421350_1421850 Maybe maybe this doesn't make any sense 1422050_1424050 ⌈ to ⌉ +... 1424050_1424250 *SETH: ⌊ well ⌋ some of these things you may wanna wait until you do the remodel . 1424050_1426920 *SETH: (..) ⌈2 &{l=X Like &}l=X ⌉2 +... 1427040_1427460 *LARR: ⌊2 I'm th- ⌋2 I'm I'm wa- I'm beginning to won⌈3der if ⌉3 +... 1427040_1429190 *SETH: ⌊3 Because what I ⌋3 would prob- +/. 1428920_1429960 *SETH: (.) What you can do 1429960_1431130 (..) ⌈ uh: ⌉ . 1431740_1432240 *LARR: ⌊ &=HICCUP ⌋ . 1431740_1432240 *SETH: is tap right off the plenum . 1432240_1433640 *SETH: Cause the furnace is (..) somewhere in that general area . 1433640_1436630 *LARR: (..) It's right there 1436660_1437290 yeah . 1437290_1437950 *SETH: (..) And you can just tap right off the plenum with a duct 1437950_1440230 (..) and bring it to this room . 1440230_1441420 *LARR: Okay . 1441270_1441610 *LARR: Well that's what we wan⌈ted to +... 1441650_1442730 *SETH: ⌊ So that can be done ⌋ . 1442290_1443440 *LARR: that's what we wanna ⌉ kn- (.) wanna know . 1442730_1444320 *SETH: that can be done at a later time . 1444320_1446090 *LARR: (.) Alright . 1446090_1446670 *LARR: &=in ⌈ But maybe t- ⌉ +... 1446810_1447620 *SETH: ⌊ That can be done at ⌋ (.) ⌈2 at any time . 1446810_1448370 *LARR: ⌊2 maybe for the sake of ⌋2 your quotation . 1447620_1449870 *SETH: Really ⌉2 . 1448370_1448840 *LARR: you should (..) say 1449870_1451180 this is what it's gonna cost you to put in (..) a duct here 1451180_1454900 (..) all these ducts 1455130_1456160 (..) at ⌈ this ⌉ time . 1456160_1456920 *SETH: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 1456300_1456610 *SETH: ⌈2 Okay ⌉2 . 1456930_1457370 *LARR: ⌊2 Now I don't ⌋2 know if +/. 1456930_1457790 *LARR: &=in if we can price em out individually 1457790_1459920 or not . 1459920_1460410 *SETH: (.) Sure . 1460420_1460740 *SETH: I call this what 1460740_1461410 utility r- (.) utility room . 1461410_1462720 *LARR: Yeah . 1462720_1463250 *LARR: (.) Just pu- uh (.) call it ⌈ a ⌉ +... 1463250_1464290 *SETH: ⌊ figure ⌋ a duct somewhere on this wall you think ? 1464090_1466130 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1466170_1466530 *LARR: Let's just assume it'd be on this wall . 1466530_1468380 *SETH: (..) Okay . 1469050_1469710 *SETH: (..) Utility room kitchen 1472270_1473570 (..) that back one we'll call that (..) pantry . 1473760_1476220 *LARR: (..) Yeah . 1477150_1477670 *LARR: (.) Pantry 1477670_1478470 (..) and then you got the dining room glass . 1479670_1481720 *SETH: (..) dining room . 1481990_1483160 *LARR: glass dining ⌈ room ⌉ . 1482780_1484050 *SETH: ⌊ and then the par⌋lor . 1483160_1484510 *LARR: (..) and then the (.) parlor 1484530_1486330 (..) one ⌈ on each ⌉ end there . 1486800_1488350 *SETH: ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ 1487080_1487440 (..) Yeah . 1492300_1492730 *SETH: (.) Cause we can do em now 1492730_1493390 or we can do em later . 1493390_1494570 *SETH: (..) But it's not (..) any more difficult (..) to do em (.) at a later time . 1494840_1499290 *SETH: (..) So it's not like you ha:ve to do it now . 1500270_1502150 *LARR: Okay . 1502150_1502740 *SETH: (..) So the registers that we're connecting to 1507370_1509190 that are existing 1509190_1509830 how many of those we have got . 1509830_1510860 *SETH: We've got the one in the kitchen 1510860_1512160 (..) and then we've got: uh 1514190_1515420 one in the d- (.) living room here . 1515420_1517450 *LARR: (..) That guy 1522210_1523230 (..) then there's one in the bathroom 1523310_1525470 there's one in the s: (..) study 1525470_1528180 (..) and there is one in the (.) library . 1529420_1531340 *LARR: (.) Or in the parlor . 1531350_1532590 *LARR: (..) I don't know what we'd do with that . 1534170_1535420 *LARR: (..) Do we disconnect that 1535420_1536450 if we put two 1536450_1537420 (..) or do you leave it . 1540450_1541340 *SETH: (.) Uh: 1541350_1542300 (.) yeah I might disconnect that . 1542300_1543760 *SETH: (..) Well it's not (.) it's not connected up right now . 1546120_1547940 *SETH: So . 1547940_1548630 *LARR: (..) Oh that's right . 1549600_1550410 *SETH: (..) so it'd just be a matter w- +/. 1550920_1552000 *SETH: (.) Actually it sh- +/. 1552000_1552650 *SETH: (.) it should be capped off probably though . 1552650_1554580 *SETH: (..) And this is the study 1556870_1558450 (..) one right there 1564240_1565470 (..) and the bathroom's got one ? 1570460_1571820 *LARR: (.) Bathroom's got one 1571900_1572920 over by the shower there . 1572920_1574130 *LARR: (..) On the floor . 1574480_1575310 *SETH: (..) Okay . 1575730_1576420 *SETH: (..) Okay 1612380_1612690 let me take a look downstairs again . 1612690_1614340 *LARR: (..) okay . 1614650_1615220 *SETH: (..) at that furnace . 1615450_1616840 @End