@UTF8 @Begin @Languages: eng @Participants: EVEL EVELYN Speaker, LIND LINDA Speaker, PATT PATTY Speaker, X X Speaker, JANI JANICE Speaker, DIAN DIANE Speaker, LOIS LOIS Speaker, DEBO DEBORAH Speaker, SUE SUE Speaker, LORI LORI Speaker, NORA NORA Speaker, MANY MANY Speaker, KIM KIM Speaker, NANC NANCY Speaker, HARR HARRIET Speaker, XEVE XEVELYN Speaker, XKIM XKIM Speaker, ALIC ALICE Speaker @Options: CA, caps, bullets @ID: eng|SBCSAE|EVEL|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|LIND|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|PATT|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|X|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|JANI|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|DIAN|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|LOIS|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|DEBO|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|SUE|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|LORI|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|NORA|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|MANY|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|KIM|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|NANC|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|HARR|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|XEVE|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|XKIM|||||Speaker||| @ID: eng|SBCSAE|ALIC|||||Speaker||| @Media: 23, audio @Comment: Howard's End @Comment: A segment from a book discussion group, recorded in Topeka, Kansas. The eleven participants are all women between the ages of 46 and 85. *EVEL: Another thing I thought was interesting 1506_4132 &=in (..) was the 4132_5071 this uh 5071_5809 the emphasis on transportation . 5809_7745 *EVEL: Do you remember the automobile ? 7745_9528 *EVEL: (..) This ⌈ was the be⌉gin⌈2ning o:f the⌉2: uh: change . 9528_13616 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 9897_10727 *PATT: ⌊2 &{l=P XXXXX X &}l=P ⌋2 . 10727_11960 *EVEL: &=SNIFF . 13600_13845 *EVEL: uh train:s 13462_14938 a:nd uh: . 14938_16352 *PATT: (..) car⌈riages ⌉ . 16352_17028 *EVEL: ⌊ auto⌋mobile:s . 16352_17630 *LIND: (.) Unhunh . 17630_18705 *EVEL: (..) and uh . 18705_20040 *X: (..) Hm . 19702_21546 *PATT: (..) ⌈ &=tsk &=in ⌉ I think Margaret though . 21546_23327 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 21550_22227 *PATT: I- ʔuh +/. 23335_23901 *PATT: (..) I don't think we can underestimate her &=ex . 23989_26284 *PATT: I mean 26293_26560 I think she's a like a lot of women 26560_28413 (.) that I have known . 28413_29327 *PATT: I mean she's in control . 29288_30572 *X: (.) &=laugh &=laugh ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 30460_31375 *PATT: ⌊ there is ⌋ no doubt . 30624_31947 *PATT: (.) I mean 31992_32643 &=in Henry Wilcox may think he's in control 32643_35182 but he is⌈n't ⌉ . 35198_36251 *X: ⌊ Hm ⌋ . 35656_36251 *PATT: &=in And there would ⌈2 never ⌉2 be: a Jacky Bast . 36251_38924 *X: ⌊2 &=SNIFF ⌋2 . 36645_37210 *PATT: (..) While she: (..) is (..) uh the head of (.) of that h- (.) household . 39005_43770 *PATT: (.) &=in Whereas I thought Missis Wilc- +/. 43770_45695 *PATT: the first Missis Wilcox 45695_46951 Ruth . 46951_47441 *LIND: ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 47441_48063 *PATT: ⌊ &=in Was so ⌋ other worldly 47441_49354 ⌈2 and everything ⌉2 else . 49354_50048 *LIND: ⌊2 mhm ⌋2 . 49354_49857 *PATT: She didn't even have a clue: 50048_51675 (.) as to what ⌈ was going ⌉ on . 51675_53229 *X: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 52177_52835 *PATT: (..) &=in So I felt that 53229_54593 (..) that: uh Margaret is . 54880_56111 *JANI: &=THROAT . 56111_56590 *PATT: (..) is: 56590_57188 (.) and I thought for this time 57188_58623 she was tremendously 58623_60153 (..) uh 60153_61003 (..) just in charge . 61732_62988 *LIND: She's very practical . 63012_64375 *PATT: Yeah . 64291_64650 *DIAN: Mh⌈m ⌉ . 64650_64925 *PATT: ⌊ and she ⌋ didn't care 64650_65894 (.) &=in the- to b- +/. 65894_66456 *PATT: to +/. 66456_66743 *PATT: she didn't care about emancipation . 66743_68836 *LIND: Mhm . 68620_68979 *PATT: I mean . 68979_69482 *LIND: M⌈hm ⌉ . 69482_70295 *PATT: ⌊ she wa:s ⌋ . 69482_70522 *LIND: (..) ⌈2 Mhm: ⌉2 . 70522_71228 *PATT: ⌊2 So she +/. 70522_71240 *PATT: when ⌋2 you really are already that way 71240_73512 &=in you don't have to make a big to-do about it . 73512_75927 *EVEL: ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 75927_77099 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 75939_77099 *X: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 75927_77099 *DIAN: ⌈2 &{l=X but she also- &}l=X ⌉2 +... 77099_78283 *LOIS: ⌊2 I thought al⌋2so 77099_78451 in the movie 78451_79109 she had a very strong personality . 79109_81417 *LOIS: (.) A lot of charisma . 81417_82636 *LIND: ⌈ Mhm: ⌉ . 82570_83180 *LOIS: ⌊ &=in ⌋ And ⌈2 very ⌉2 positive . 83151_84693 *DEBO: ⌊2 Did you see the movie ⌋2 ⌈3 Diane ⌉3 . 83462_84693 *DIAN: ⌊3 Hm-m ⌋3 . 86040_86930 *LOIS: ⌊3 which is ⌋3 also what you're saying . 84729_86212 *LOIS: ⌈4 But . 86212_86523 *LIND: ⌊4 Mhm ⌋4 . 86224_86870 *LOIS: &=in ⌉4 (..) but she just radiated something which was (.) personality . 86870_90984 *LIND: Mhm . 90715_91660 *EVEL: (..) &=in You know 91881_92275 a funny +/. 92275_92861 *EVEL: there are two young people that I have talked to about the movie 92861_95457 and I haven't seen it but 95564_97143 &=in one of them 97143_98028 (.) uh: was my niece 98028_99547 and I said something about Margaret talking about her 99547_102273 feeling that she was the 102273_104127 &=in I think I used the word heroine . 104127_106339 *EVEL: (..) &=in And she said &{l=Q heroine &}l=Q ? 106339_108623 *EVEL: (..) And she couldn't see Margaret as a heroine . 108863_111482 *EVEL: ⌈ I think ⌉ Margaret +... 111482_112415 *X: ⌊ XX ⌋ . 111482_111972 *EVEL: and then she went on 112379_113515 to explain 113515_114184 she said 114184_114854 &=in maybe she was too stro:ng . 114854_117114 *EVEL: (..) Uh 117114_117952 we're used to seeing someone as the: uh 117952_120965 you know 120965_121468 the protagonist 121360_122341 or the 122245_122915 the woman on the screen 122915_124386 (..) as a romantic 124386_125737 as uh all of that 125737_127148 (..) And I +/. 127148_127698 *EVEL: I haven't seen the movie 127698_129085 but that was her feeling about it . 129085_130915 *X: Hm . 130915_131633 *LIND: Hunh⌈: ⌉ . 131609_131932 *SUE: ⌊ Had ⌋ she read the book also ? 131609_133486 *SUE: ⌈2 You ⌉2 +... 133486_133929 *EVEL: ⌊2 No ⌋2 . 133486_133953 *EVEL: (.) ⌈3 no [% laugh] ⌉3 ⌈4 &=laugh &=laugh ⌉4 . 133869_134898 *SUE: ⌊3 t- ⌋3 +... 134025_134455 *LIND: ⌊4 Just the- ⌋4 +... 134419_134898 *EVEL: ⌈5 No ⌉5 . 134860_135200 *SUE: ⌊5 because- ⌋5 +... 134645_135230 *EVEL: XX goes to movies . 135173_136763 *SUE: ⌈ Okay [% laugh] ⌉ . 136763_137517 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 136763_137517 *EVEL: And ⌈2 an- ⌉2 +... 137517_137995 *SUE: ⌊2 be- ⌋2 +/. 137517_138007 *SUE: (.) Because 138007_138724 the other thing about Margaret that would be &=in uh- a heroine 138868_142934 is that ⌈ she ⌉ +... 142934_144154 *LIND: ⌊ &=THROAT ⌋ &=THROAT . 144154_145039 *SUE: +, marries Henry even though all this has happened . 145039_148531 *SUE: a:nd then she 148531_150241 (.) ⌈ she ⌉ (.) sticks with Henry . 150241_152214 *EVEL: ⌊ mhm ⌋ . 150241_151054 *SUE: even though 152214_153075 all 153075_153590 You know . 153590_154128 *LIND: ⌈ &=COUGH ⌉ . 154128_154594 *EVEL: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 154128_154654 *SUE: The ⌈2 son ends ⌉2 up killing . 154594_156137 *LIND: ⌊2 &=COUGH ⌋2 . 154594_155694 *SUE: ⌈3 You know . 156125_156484 *LIND: ⌊3 &=THROAT &=THROAT &=THROAT ⌋3 . 156173_157524 *SUE: all this happens ⌉3 156484_157524 and she: sticks it out ⌈4 with ⌉4 ⌈5 Henry ⌉5 . 157524_159772 *LIND: ⌊4 &=THROAT ⌋4 . 158911_159342 *EVEL: ⌊5 Yeah⌋5: . 159342_159976 *SUE: &=in And tha:t 159760_160669 maybe 160669_161255 young people nowadays wouldn't ⌈ have done ⌉ . 161327_163539 *EVEL: ⌊ XX ⌋ . 162953_163539 *LIND: ⌈2 &=in ⌉2 . 163415_163985 *SUE: ⌊2 They wouldn't have ⌋2 thought that heroic . 163432_165022 *SUE: (.) They would have thought that 165022_166099 (.) marching out and saying &{l=VOX I won't stay &}l=VOX 166099_168443 you ⌈ know or ⌉ . 168443_169076 *EVEL: ⌊ Mhm: ⌋ . 168682_169136 *SUE: &=in &{l=VOX I won't marry you &}l=VOX or . 169029_170296 *LIND: &=in . 170030_170480 *SUE: ⌈ whatever ⌉ . 170296_170858 *EVEL: ⌊ MM: ⌋ . 170296_171265 *LIND: ⌊ I- I: ⌋ wanted to know 170763_172114 &=in &=THROAT excuse me . 172114_173298 *LIND: I wanted to know what (..) you thought about 173298_175917 (..) why she agreed to marry him (..) to begin with . 175917_179493 *LIND: (.) Because although I understand (.) &=in the reasons that are given in the book 179481_184133 (..) &=in I still (.) couldn't quite (..) decide that 184133_188534 (.) that's something she would have decided to do . 188534_190854 *EVEL: (..) Uh &{l=X but &}l=X I n- +/. 190854_192528 *EVEL: I know what you mean . 192528_193724 *EVEL: The only thing I was thinking 193724_195111 maybe she was older ? 195111_196582 *EVEL: (..) Her chances were: 196582_198938 You know 198938_199393 it was (.) changing ? 199393_200816 *LIND: Mm . 200672_201892 *EVEL: (..) And uh 201689_202801 because she was very pleased when he asked her . 202801_205121 *JANI: (..) ⌈ Ha- ⌉ +... 206006_206315 *LIND: ⌊ and ⌋ she admired him 206006_207166 according to the ⌈2 b- ⌉2 +... 207166_207896 *EVEL: ⌊2 mm⌋2⌈3: ⌉3 . 208218_208780 *JANI: ⌊2 well ⌋2 ⌊3 I don't think ⌋3 Henry ⌈4 was ⌉4 the horrible person that . 207848_210981 *LIND: ⌊4 but ⌋4 . 208721_209426 *JANI: (..) uh 210981_211495 a lot of critics felt (..) that he was 211495_213923 &=in (..) I think (.) m:aybe (.) Forster wanted him to be that way 213923_218611 and I just didn't (..) look at it ⌈ that way ⌉ . 218611_222474 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 221349_222330 *JANI: when I read about him . 222199_222928 *JANI: But I thought he had a lot of good (.) qualities . 222928_225236 *LIND: Did you see some char:m there ? 225236_227616 *JANI: (..) ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 227616_228633 *SUE: ⌊ Hm ⌋ . 227616_228633 *X: ⌊ &=ex ⌋ (.) ⌈2 &=in ⌉2 . 227990_229210 *LIND: ⌊2 Okay ⌋2 . 228405_229183 *JANI: Mhm . 229183_229745 *LIND: Hm . 229745_230271 *LIND: (..) ⌈ This is for the movie ⌉ . 230271_232053 *X: ⌊ She evidently ⌋ di:d . 230271_232184 *X: (..) ⌈2 Uhuh⌉2⌈3: ⌉3 . 232184_232794 *JANI: ⌊2 Mhm:⌋2⌊3: ⌋3 . 232184_232806 *LORI: ⌊3 Well the ⌋3 ⌈4 book ⌉4 she kept saying he was charming . 232531_234540 *DIAN: ⌊4 Mhm ⌋4 . 232746_233153 *JANI: ⌈5 Well I ⌉5 read the book too . 234540_235736 *LORI: ⌊5 &{l=X I mean he &}l=X ⌋5 +... 234540_235126 *JANI: and ⌈6 I ⌉6 +... 235736_236370 *LORI: ⌊6 he r- ⌋6 +/. 235835_236310 *LORI: (..) he uh 236310_237111 (..) she described him as (..) ʔa charming . 237111_239731 *EVEL: (..) mhm . 239731_240735 *LORI: (..) when she was talking about him to some:body 240735_242876 (.) Helen or th- 242876_243474 in her thoughts or something 243474_244777 &=in Margaret said 244777_246332 (..) you know he 246332_247253 (..) I mean Mister Wilcox is: a charming (..) man . 247253_250027 *EVEL: (..) ⌈ Hm ⌉ . 250027_250601 *LIND: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 250027_250613 *JANI: ⌊ Hm ⌋ . 250027_250637 *JANI: Well ⌈2 as long as things are going his way ⌉2 . 250637_253089 *LIND: ⌊2 &=in I guess I couldn't see any charm ⌋2 . 250637_253077 *LIND: ⌈3 Either place ⌉3 . 253077_253938 *DIAN: ⌊3 &=in ⌋3 . 252960_253810 *LIND: an:d 253938_254727 (..) and I +/. 254727_255409 *LIND: (.) I guess that's what kept &=in kinda s- bringing me up short on . 255409_259786 *DIAN: &=laugh . 259152_259786 *LIND: (..) believing this marriage . 260121_261974 *EVEL: (..) after all +/. 261974_262979 *EVEL: &{l=X or &}l=X 262979_263158 and the times too: 263158_264725 Linda 264725_265143 you know nineteen ten . 265143_266782 *DIAN: Mhm . 266722_267284 *EVEL: (.) there wasn't a (.) great deal of opportunity 267284_269568 for a: uh +... 269568_270669 *DIAN: (..) I was gonna say 270890_271430 didn't she think she really had to be married ? 270740_273850 *EVEL: (..) I don't know⌈: . 273850_275165 *JANI: ⌊ &=in ⌋ . 274854_275165 *EVEL: but she ⌉ +... 275010_275368 *JANI: ⌈2 well the- ⌉2 +... 275368_275799 *LIND: ⌊2 I don't ⌋2 know: . 275368_276110 *JANI: The thing I ⌈3 didn't under⌉3stand is . 276086_277760 *LIND: ⌊3 I don't know ⌋3 . 276636_277425 *JANI: why both families were so against Paul and Helen . 277760_280834 *LORI: (..) &=laugh &=laugh 280834_281396 (..) and then the rest ⌈ of em X ⌉ +... 281396_282628 *JANI: ⌊ and yen- ⌋ +/. 282006_282628 *JANI: then Hen- Henry and Margaret got married 282628_284732 and there didn't seem to be any dissension ⌈ there . 284732_286694 *LIND: ⌊ Well the her- ⌋ +... 286466_286969 *JANI: you know ⌋ ? 286466_286993 *LIND: his kids didn't like tha:t . 286993_288535 *JANI: No 288535_288775 his kids didn't like it 288775_289875 but Henry ⌈ was a⌉gainst +... 289875_291059 *X: ⌊ &{l=X bu:t &}l=X ⌋ . 290246_290760 *SUE: But ⌈2 the +... 291059_291453 *EVEL: ⌊2 well Pau:l ⌋2 had no future . 291190_292841 *SUE: but the ⌉2 +/. 291298_291681 *SUE: Yeah ⌈3 but that was ⌉3 +... 292745_293618 *EVEL: ⌊3 Y_he had ⌋3 no ⌈4 money: . 293068_294204 *LIND: ⌊4 Paul hadn't made his money . 293594_295448 *LIND: um ⌋4 . 294945_295448 *EVEL: or anything ⌉4 294599_295543 (..) and uh⌈5: ⌉5 . 295806_297062 *LIND: ⌊5 Yeah: ⌋5 . 296536_297421 *JANI: I thought it was mainly because of the difference in the ⌈6 families ⌉6 . 297038_300100 *NORA: ⌊6 &=COUGH &=COUGH ⌋6 . 299346_300100 *JANI: though 300100_300554 that they 300554_301176 (..) perhaps I misunderstood that . 301176_302563 *LIND: ⌈ &=in I ⌉ don't know . 302563_303436 *SUE: ⌊ I ⌋ +... 303066_303436 *LIND: ⌈2 I don't know that either ⌉2 . 303436_304477 *SUE: I ⌊2 ʔuh I ⌋2 agree more with Linda . 303436_305744 *SUE: that +/. 305744_306115 *SUE: that I think it was a situa⌈tion where Paul: &=in ⌉ couldn't marry anybody . 306115_310241 *LIND: ⌊ &=THROAT &=THROAT &=THROAT ⌋ . 307371_308997 *SUE: because he had to go: ʔuh ⌈2 overseas . 310241_313195 *JANI: ⌊2 He didn't have any money ⌋2 . 312083_313805 *SUE: a:nd ⌉2 make his f- +/. 313171_314307 *SUE: (.) you know 314307_314797 make his way in the world 314797_315945 cause he: couldn't support a woman . 315945_317859 *JANI: Mhm . 317596_318301 *SUE: &=in And 318301_318911 (.) and maybe 318911_320024 &=in those families see 320131_321554 rather than the Basts 321554_323252 (..) who would get married 323252_324652 (..) whether they could support somebody or not 324652_326721 &=in (.) they strongly felt that you had to have a certain amount of money 327091_330105 or 330284_330392 (.) or a certain future in order to +/. 330392_332447 *SUE: (..) ⌈ end up ⌉ +... 332447_333562 *LORI: ⌊ position ⌋ . 332447_333591 *SUE: Yeah . 333591_334040 *SUE: Position ⌈ in order to ⌉ have a ⌈2 wife ⌉2 . 334040_335878 *LORI: ⌊ ready to go ⌋ . 334416_335125 *LIND: ⌊2 Mm ⌋2 . 335125_336182 *LIND: ⌈3 &=in Did Helen ⌉3 not have enough money to support them I wonder ? 336182_339599 *MANY: ⌊3 &=MURMUR_AGREEMENT ⌋3 . 336052_338108 *LIND: (.) Why couldn't Helen have just supported them . 339686_341583 *SUE: Well 341351_341843 I ⌈ think that that ⌉ was: . 341843_343248 *LORI: ⌊ &{l=X that wasn't &}l=X ⌋ +... 342147_342987 *SUE: they +/. 343248_343639 *SUE: (..) ⌈ they wouldn't have allowed ⌉ ⌈2 that . 343639_344927 *LIND: ⌊ That's not a ⌋ +... 343639_344696 *LORI: ⌊2 The Wilcoxes wouldn't &{l=X have &}l=X ⌋2 . 344696_346389 *SUE: (.) That wouldn't have been alright ⌉2 . 344696_346404 *SUE: &=in . 346216_346824 *LORI: Look at ⌈3 Missis Wilcox XX ⌉3 . 346824_348127 *SUE: ⌊3 according to the Wilcoxes ⌋3 . 347171_348503 *EVEL: ⌊3 the- the- the- +/. 347171_347895 *EVEL: their ⌋3 code of honor . 347895_349198 *EVEL: Remember ? 349198_349850 *EVEL: ⌈ the ⌉ uh +... 349850_350675 *SUE: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 349850_350197 *EVEL: (..) strong English honor 350661_352659 that they uh 352659_353715 (..) ⌈ that Charles had to de⌉fen:d ? 353715_355815 *PATT: ⌊ &{l=X men would take care of them &}l=X ⌋ . 353715_355858 *EVEL: (.) You know ? 355858_356423 *PATT: Right . 356423_356814 *KIM: (..) &=in . 356814_357248 *DIAN: Except ⌈ in Out of Africa . 357248_358768 *KIM: ⌊ when uh Margaret uh 357248_358725 (..) when Margaret married uh ⌋ ⌈2 Mister ⌉2 ⌈3 Wilcox ⌉3 . 358725_361563 *DIAN: which is about the same time ⌉ . 358725_360361 *LIND: ⌊2 &=THROAT ⌋2 . 360361_360708 *X: ⌊3 Mhm: ⌋3 . 360708_361230 *PATT: (..) Mhm . 361230_362055 *KIM: (..) &=in What- +/. 362055_362663 *KIM: uh did uh: +/. 362663_363416 *KIM: it seems to me XX in the movie 363604_364820 they were looking at this b:ig house 364820_366529 in:terior of this big house 366529_367759 did they move to a big house ? 367759_368961 *KIM: (..) Where did they live . 368961_370626 *JANI: (..) I think they lived in the big house . 370626_372262 *KIM: they did live in the big ⌈ house ⌉ . 372262_373695 *JANI: ⌊ they ⌋ ended up ⌈2 living in Howard's ⌉2 End . 373300_374900 *LIND: ⌊2 for a while: ⌋2 . 373875_374900 *JANI: didn't they ? 374900_375315 *PATT: ⌈ No ⌉ . 375315_375605 *LIND: ⌊ Yeahl ⌋ 375315_375610 at the end . 375520_376165 *LIND: (..) They were (..) ⌈ in Howard's End ⌉ . 376165_378040 *LORI: ⌊ Who was at Howard's End ⌋ at the end ? 376895_378405 *LORI: (.) I thought it was Helen and the little boy . 378405_379940 *LIND: (.) No 379940_380300 (.) all of ⌈ em were at Howard's ⌉ ⌈2 End . 380300_381970 *JANI: ⌊ I thought all of em ⌋ +... 380735_381970 *DIAN: ⌊ XXXX ⌋ +... 380735_381970 *LORI: ⌊2 they all lived in How⌋2ard's ⌈3 End ⌉3 . 381835_383255 *LIND: (.) Henry ⌉2 381835_382470 ⌊3 Margaret ⌋3 . 382470_383120 *DIAN: ⌊3 &{l=X Buffalo &}l=X ⌋3 . 382490_383220 *LIND: (..) Helen 383220_383750 ⌈ they were all ⌉ one big happy family &=laugh . 383220_385595 *LORI: ⌊ &{l=X whole family &}l=X ⌋ . 383220_384365 *PATT: Oh ⌈2 my ⌉2 God . 385725_386435 *LIND: ⌊2 &=laugh ⌋2 . 385830_386165 *KIM: W- (.) ⌈3 when uh ⌉3 +... 386350_387040 *JANI: ⌊3 That was kind of ⌋3 unbelievable 386705_387915 ⌈4 wasn't [% laugh] it [% laugh] &=laugh ⌉4 ⌈5 &=laugh ⌉5 ⌈6 &=laugh &=laugh ⌉6 ⌈7 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in ⌉7 . 387915_389765 *LIND: ⌊5 &=laugh ⌋5 . 388335_388645 *PATT: ⌊4 Tell me ⌋4 ⌊5 an⌋5⌊6other one ⌋6 . 387815_389060 *EVEL: ⌊7 and Margaret brought em all⌋7: together . 388820_390635 *LIND: &=in &=lengthened ⌈8 Well . 390645_391535 *KIM: ⌊8 and when they married . 391255_392300 *LIND: and the other thing ⌉8 +... 391170_392575 *KIM: ʔand ⌋8 when uh: (.) they married 392280_394040 did uh: 394040_394920 (.) uh what was his name 394920_395855 the uh: (.) wimpy little son ? 395855_397550 *X: (..) ⌈ Tibby ⌉ ? 397550_398500 *KIM: ⌊ the bro- ⌋ +... 397550_398510 *SUE: ⌈2 Tibby ⌉2 ? 398510_399075 *KIM: ⌊2 did Tib⌋2by 398510_399340 (.) ⌈3 and the ⌉3 young girl come and live with them ? 399340_401390 *LIND: ⌊3 Tibby ⌋3 . 399340_399945 *JANI: (..) I don't know ⌈4 what happened to Tibby ⌉4 . 401590_403115 *LIND: ⌊4 T:ibby was ⌋4 +... 401950_402715 *JANI: ⌈5 I don't ⌉5 ⌈6 remember from the book ⌉6 . 402715_404310 *SUE: ⌊5 Well ⌋5 +... 402715_403200 *LIND: ⌊6 Tibby wasn't there ⌋6 . 402715_404240 *SUE: When (.) when he- they- +/. 404280_406040 *SUE: at the wedding 406040_407060 see 407060_407420 is when Helen: 407420_408500 (..) uh: 409180_409815 (..) conceived 409815_411095 and so then 411095_411995 shortly thereafter 411995_412995 she me- went away . 412995_414210 *SUE: She went to like 414210_415200 (..) Ger⌈many ⌉ . 415200_416065 *JANI: ⌊ Germany ⌋ . 415580_416045 *SUE: or some place like that ? 416045_416905 *SUE: And she stayed ⌈2 in Germany ⌉2 . 416905_418035 *LORI: ⌊2 O:kay ⌋2 . 417480_418035 *LIND: ⌈3 Oh ⌉3 . 418035_418375 *SUE: ⌊3 &{l=X un⌋3⌈4til: &}l=X ⌉4 +... 418035_418865 *LORI: ⌊4 &{l=X friend of t- &}l=X ⌋4 +... 418585_419110 *JANI: but that wasn't Margaret's wedding 418865_420380 that was Evie's wedding . 420380_421530 *JANI: (..) ⌈ That was ⌉ be⌈2fore they got married ⌉2 . 421530_423275 *SUE: ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 421530_422070 *LIND: ⌊2 Yeah . 422220_422650 *LIND: (.) That's right ⌋2 . 422650_423185 *SUE: That was before Margaret even ⌈3 got ⌉3 married . 422980_424730 *LIND: ⌊3 Right ⌋3 . 424140_424500 *SUE: ⌈4 So by the ⌉4 time Margaret gets married . 424720_426925 *JANI: ⌊4 &=THROAT ⌋4 424720_425315 (..) Maybe they didn't ⌈5 &{l=X live there the whole time &}l=X ⌉5 . 426885_428315 *SUE: ⌊5 Helen's preg⌋5nant 427355_428315 (.) an:d ⌈6 she's away some⌉6where . 428315_429760 *PATT: ⌊6 Tibby was gone ⌋6 . 428620_429505 *SUE: be⌈7cause she is⌉7n't +... 429780_430875 *EVEL: ⌊7 Yeah ⌋7 . 429865_430170 *SUE: (..) She's hiding . 431170_432080 *JANI: &=COUGH 432080_432340 ⌈ I see ⌉ . 432340_432915 *SUE: ⌊ Essentially ⌋ . 432325_432915 *DIAN: &=SNIFF . 432915_433325 *LOIS: Isn't it (.) also basically (.) a woman's +/. 433260_435900 *LOIS: (..) the women are m:uch more developed characters ⌈ than the ⌉ men . 435900_439560 *JANI: ⌊ &=COUGH &=COUGH ⌋ . 438565_439575 *LOIS: (.) And the men tend to be: . 439575_440860 *LIND: Mhm . 440860_441245 *LOIS: not such good ⌈ people ⌉ . 441245_442550 *LIND: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 442025_442550 *LIND: (..) I ⌈2 think so ⌉2 . 442550_443540 *KIM: ⌊2 Isn't that ⌋2 ⌈3 in⌉3teresting . 442955_444030 *PATT: ⌊3 Weak ⌋3 . 443095_443565 *KIM: (.) an- +/. 444075_444235 *KIM: that he would write that way if he was a homosexual ? 444235_446705 *DIAN: (..) Ex⌈cept he was raised by his mother: . 446705_448890 *LOIS: ⌊ &{l=X I don't know that &}l=X everybody agrees with that ⌋ . 447435_449180 *DIAN: and ⌉ . 449050_449220 *LOIS: (.) but . 449220_449425 *DIAN: (.) aunt and so on . 449425_450490 *LORI: (..) Yeah 450490_450875 ⌈ so the- ⌉ (.) the mo- +... 450875_451635 *KIM: ⌊ &{l=X pardon &}l=X ⌋ ? 450875_451150 *LORI: the mothers have always been uh 451570_452975 (..) women (.) figures in his life were so strong obviously . 452975_455785 *EVEL: (..) Mhm . 455830_457320 *KIM: (..) ʔuh (.) Bu- (.) but (.) ⌈ but the fellow ⌉ . 457320_458915 *LORI: ⌊ &{l=X isn't that what you're saying &}l=X ⌋ ? 457845_458915 *KIM: Tibby ? 458915_459235 *KIM: is +/. 459235_459380 *KIM: was- isn't that is name ? 459380_460515 *KIM: He- but he was such a wimpy 460515_462130 &=in &=lengthened . 461750_462210 *NANC: Mhm . 461990_462490 *NANC: ⌈ sure ⌉ . 462490_462780 *KIM: ⌊ phy⌋sically: (.) weak 462490_464455 uh: person . 464455_466135 *KIM: (..) ⌈ Uh ⌉ . 466135_466870 *EVEL: ⌊ &{l=@ they all ⌋ had ⌈2 asthma ⌉2 &}l=@ . 466135_467930 *LORI: ⌊2 I wouldn't know who- ⌋2 +/. 467490_468485 *LORI: they always +... 468475_469520 *X: (.) Hm . 469520_469945 *EVEL: ⌈ and uh . 469990_470540 *LORI: ⌊ and Paul wasn't ⌋ +... 469990_471105 *EVEL: even living ⌉ on the farm: 470755_472195 (.) ⌈2 they all ⌉2 had ⌈3 uh ⌉3 . 472195_473555 *LORI: ⌊2 Hm ⌋2 . 472195_472715 *LORI: ⌊3 even ⌋3 Charles wasn't . 472730_473950 *PATT: (.) &=tsk &=in (.) ⌈4 Diane ⌉4 +... 473950_475550 *EVEL: ⌊4 what was it ⌋4 474510_475115 hay fever: 475115_475900 or asth⌈ma or something ⌉ . 475880_477225 *X: ⌊ XXXXX ⌋ . 476250_477225 *LIND: Yes . 477225_477675 *PATT: Diane ⌈ started ⌉ to say something about Out of Africa . 477635_480585 *LIND: ⌊ Yes ⌋ . 478130_478460 *DIAN: Well: 480450_481175 (.) you're talking about the woman having the money 481175_482930 and why th- m- ⌊ a man ⌋ couldn't +... 482930_485020 *LIND: ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 483565_484160 *LIND: (..) Mhm: . 485120_485580 *LORI: ⌊ Marry her ⌋ . 485580_486270 *DIAN: +, ⌊ marry the ⌋ +... 485470_486210 *LIND: ⌈ Mhm⌉: . 485975_486445 *DIAN: y- yeah 486470_487160 in ʔuh (.) Out of Africa 487060_488160 I think 488160_488365 is about this same time period . 488365_490235 *DIAN: (..) Or may- well maybe it's s- second world war . 490235_492320 *DIAN: &=in (.) But Isak Dine⌊sen . 492240_493705 *LORI: ⌊ later ⌋ . 493480_494110 *DIAN: the ⌋ (..) heroine of out of Africa is Danish 493775_496060 but she's the one with money 496060_497335 and she ends up +/. 497250_498055 *DIAN: a:- +/. 498055_498810 *DIAN: (.) &=in the brother of the person that she's in ⌈ love with ⌉ marries ⌈2 her ⌉2 . 498810_501870 *LIND: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ 500680_501225 ⌊2 yeah ⌋2 . 501590_501890 *DIAN: because he has no money 501890_503375 no family money 503375_504150 but she has money 504150_505320 &=in &=lengthened and she has no: way to get a husband 505320_507590 so they agree: (..) to get married 507590_509595 because he will then (.) have access to her money and title 509605_512385 and she'll have a husband . 512425_513705 *DIAN: (..) &=in So it was done 513705_514870 my point of all ⌈ that was . 514820_516005 *X: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 515610_516520 *DIAN: that it was ⌋ sometimes done 515980_517405 &=in that a woman of means 517405_519335 married a man of no means 519290_521070 (..) as uh 521070_521975 (..) an arrangement for what (..) ever reason . 521975_524900 *LIND: (..) ⌈ &=tsk &=in Yeah I +... 524900_526250 *DIAN: ⌊ and so it (.) could have been that ⌋ this . 524900_527445 *LIND: (.) I guess: ⌉ +... 526215_526970 *DIAN: that her money could have been: the s- source of marriage if they'd wanted it to ⌈2 be ⌉2 . 527395_530990 *LIND: ⌊2 That's ⌋2 to me uh uh 530510_531930 (.) kind of a m- +/. 531930_532680 *LIND: (.) n:ot taken care o:f 532680_534030 (.) very well in the book . 534030_535040 *LIND: (.) I I ⌈ guess I don't ⌉ (..) know why they didn't [% laugh] +... 535040_538195 *DIAN: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 535345_535900 *LIND: why that was such a no no . 538170_539775 *LIND: &=in . 539765_540030 *DIAN: And I didn't realize Forster grew up with money . 540030_541805 *DIAN: That sort of mixed me all up now too 541805_543470 because⌈: ⌉ . 543470_544290 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 543950_544290 *DIAN: it sounded to me like he hadn't and . 544290_545800 *LIND: (.) Mhm: . 545855_546710 *DIAN: (.) &{l=X yeah &}l=X . 546710_547605 *DIAN: &=in I have a question about England in nineteen ten 547605_549555 too . 549555_550000 *DIAN: (..) Which sh:ows that my (..) lack of history . 550000_552635 *DIAN: &=in Was England the strong world power in nineteen ten ? 552635_556295 *DIAN: (.) still ? 556295_556615 *DIAN: The: w- (..) empire 556615_557790 English 557790_558145 the sun never sets on the English empire ? 558145_560095 *EVEL: Tha- that was where ⌈ uh⌉: . 560095_561410 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 561220_561475 *EVEL: a- a- Wilcox made his money . 561335_563630 *EVEL: Wasn't it ? 563630_564230 *EVEL: In s- +/. 564230_564650 *EVEL: what was it . 564650_565265 *EVEL: Some kind of trade in uh 565315_568250 (..) I g- I've ⌈ forgotten what ⌉ it was . 568680_570360 *LIND: ⌊ Hm ⌋ . 569240_569865 *EVEL: (..) Uh ⌈ was it ⌉ +... 570205_570870 *JANI: ⌊ he had ⌋ 570870_571405 I think he had rubber tr- (.) ⌈ plantations ⌉ . 571405_574485 *EVEL: ⌊ rubber plantations ⌋ ? 573035_574485 *X: ⌊ XXXX ⌋ . 573035_574485 *PATT: (.) ⌈2 Yeah ⌉2 . 574610_575170 *DIAN: ⌊2 Cause ⌋2 I read Passage ⌈3 to India: ⌉3 . 574610_576690 *LORI: ⌊3 XXXXXX ⌋3 . 575525_576575 *DIAN: (..) a hundred years ago in college 576575_578365 (.) and that was all about (..) the colony of India . 578365_581075 *LIND: (.) Mhm: . 581075_581485 *DIAN: ⌈ and (.) Eng⌉lish colonial things . 581485_582970 *LORI: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 581530_581960 *DIAN: So I thought England was in a (.) position of great strength 582970_586105 (.) in nineteen ten . 586105_587140 *EVEL: (.) I think it ⌈ was ⌉ . 587140_588075 *X: ⌊ Hm ⌋ ? 587765_588075 *JANI: ⌈2 I think it ⌉2 ⌈3 probably was ⌉3 . 588075_589155 *MANY: ⌊2 XXX⌋2⌊3XXXX ⌋3 . 588065_589155 *NORA: ⌊3 I think it was ⌋3 . 588565_589155 *MANY: ⌈4 XX ⌉4 . 588840_589640 *LORI: ⌊4 But it was getting ⌋4 ⌈5 ready to . 588840_590170 *LIND: ⌊5 But the winds of change: ⌋5 . 589605_591225 *LORI: (..) move away ⌉5 . 590465_591225 *LIND: ⌈6 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉6 . 591225_592220 *LORI: ⌊6 that's right ⌋6 . 591225_592220 *DIAN: ⌊6 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋6 ⌈7 were beginning to blow ⌉7 . 591225_593435 *LIND: ⌊7 &{l=@ had begun to blow &}l=@ ⌋7 . 591890_593305 *LIND: &=laugh &=in . 593305_593830 *EVEL: ⌈ mhm ⌉ . 593830_594450 *NORA: ⌊ Wonder who was the ⌋ ruler . 593830_595045 *LIND: &=in . 595045_595620 *NORA: in nineteen ten . 595620_596490 *DIAN: Who was the king or ⌈ queen ⌉ ? 596490_597640 *NORA: ⌊ M⌋hm . 597640_597930 *LORI: I ⌈2 don't know ⌉2 . 597930_598585 *DIAN: ⌊2 Hmm ⌋2 . 598150_598585 *PATT: When &=ex +/. 598585_599005 *PATT: what was Victoria's reign . 599005_600715 *NORA: (.) Well that's what I'm trying to think of . 600790_602565 *EVEL: ʔAbout 602390_603085 (.) well close to that 603085_604140 w- +/. 604140_604345 *EVEL: uh: 604320_604775 remember: 604775_605370 ⌈ they: uh ⌉ . 605370_606015 *LORI: ⌊ Well when did Edward ⌋ give up . 605370_606470 *EVEL: ⌈2 Upstairs Downstairs . 606470_608575 *DEBO: ⌊2 I should think it would have been George the Fifth XXX ⌋2 . 606375_608855 *EVEL: The: uh: ⌉2 . 607990_608855 *PATT: Mhm . 608855_609070 *DIAN: ⌈ mm ⌉ . 609070_609440 *EVEL: ⌊ Uh ⌋ . 609075_609440 *LOIS: (.) Mhm . 609425_610445 *EVEL: (.) what was it 610445_611150 uh: the 611150_612145 (..) ⌈ her ⌉ son came i:n . 612145_613665 *LIND: ⌊ &=THROAT ⌋ . 612145_613035 *EVEL: in about nineteen ten . 613640_615530 *LIND: Yeah ⌈ X ⌉ . 615530_615920 *EVEL: ⌊ Vic⌋toria's son . 615920_617050 *LIND: (..) ⌈2 Was that Edward ⌉2 ? 618500_619855 *EVEL: ⌊2 The one that ⌋2 +/. 618495_619855 *EVEL: (..) Yeah . 619960_620325 *LIND: ⌈ &{l=X the ward in &}l=X (.) a (.) England ⌉ . 620325_622110 *EVEL: ⌊ The one who was a 620325_621475 (.) such ⌋ a . 621475_622110 *NORA: (.) Well he was weak . 622110_623270 *NORA: (.) Wasn't he ? 623270_624035 *LIND: Mhm . 624035_624245 *LORI: The one that ⌈ abdi⌉cated ? 624245_625285 *SUE: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 624545_625045 *LIND: (..) No . 625415_626245 *LORI: (.) ⌈ That was ⌉ later . 626245_627045 *PATT: ⌊ No ⌋ . 626245_626730 *PATT: (..) That was later . 627170_628280 *EVEL: (.) ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 628280_629360 *X: ⌊ &=in ⌋ . 628270_629360 *PATT: (..) Well at the beginning of World War (..) O:ne 629360_632195 (..) in The Guns ⌈ of August ⌉ . 632195_634175 *NORA: ⌊ It was nineteen ⌋ eighteen . 633250_634225 *PATT: (.) ⌈2 They ⌉2 . 634225_635205 *NORA: ⌊2 four⌋2teen . 634225_635185 *X: &=ex ⌈ &=lengthened ⌉ . 635185_635535 *PATT: ⌊ a:ll of ⌋ the (.) crowned heads 635185_637270 (.) was +/. 637375_637870 *PATT: (.) that was the last time they were a:ll together . 637870_640225 *PATT: So it had already +/. 640130_641695 *PATT: &=in was 641695_642240 (..) well over the horizon into setting . 642865_644960 *PATT: &=in . 644965_645330 *LIND: ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 645330_646405 *PATT: ⌊ by nine⌋teen fourteen . 645415_647315 *LORI: a⌈2Okay ⌉2 . 647125_648200 *MANY: ⌊2 Mhm ⌋2 . 647980_648770 *LORI: ⌈3 So nineteen ⌉3 ⌈4 ten it ⌉4 ⌈5 just ⌉5 +... 647495_649135 *PATT: ⌊3 So in ⌋3 ⌊4 nine⌋4⌊5teen ⌋5 ten . 647500_649135 *X: ⌊4 Mhm ⌋4 . 647965_648730 *PATT: there would de:finitely have been 649055_650765 &=in . 650665_650945 *LORI: Un⌈dercurrents ⌉ . 650935_651840 *PATT: ⌊ the wi:nds ⌋ (.) ⌈2 of (.) ⌉2 cha:nge (.) beginning to +... 651015_654340 *LIND: ⌊2 Mhm ⌋2 . 651785_652835 *DIAN: ⌊2 Okay ⌋2 . 651925_652735 *LIND: (..) Mhm . 655060_655570 *DIAN: But England really didn't start losing her colonies: 655570_658330 (..) did she 659115_659565 until more like second world war ? 659565_661710 *EVEL: (..) &=in ⌈ That's when ⌉ ⌈2 they div- (.) ⌉2 divest⌈3ed . 663810_665850 *DIAN: ⌊ Well maybe ⌋ +... 663870_664365 *LIND: ⌊2 Mhm ⌋2 . 664365_665265 *LIND: ⌊3 Mhm ⌋3 . 665620_666625 *EVEL: (.) was af⌉3ter r- ⌈4 Second World ⌉4 ⌈5 War ⌉5 . 665905_668085 *LIND: ⌊4 Mhm ⌋4 . 666655_667285 *DIAN: ⌊5 Okay ⌋5 . 667520_668080 *LORI: Mhm . 667880_668415 *DIAN: (..) May⌈be the ⌉ power over them was becoming weak ? 668800_671245 *EVEL: ⌊ XXX ⌋ +/. 668835_669910 *EVEL: (.) Mhm: . 671245_671940 *LORI: (.) ⌈ I ʔuh +... 671940_672275 *DIAN: ⌊ by this time ⌋ ? 671945_672640 *LORI: (.) wasn't that ⌋ part of the problem they had ? 672250_673845 *LORI: Cause they were trying to 673800_674870 &=in (.) hold the colonies together 675195_676400 and then they also had to deal with the war in Europe ? 676365_678310 *PATT: (..) &=tsk &=in I ⌈ thought so ⌉ . 678235_680125 *LORI: ⌊ I mean was⌋n't that the prob⌈2lem ⌉2 ? 679275_680630 *DIAN: ⌊2 M⌋2hm . 680160_680750 *LORI: ⌈3 That they had to be ⌉3 +... 680750_681620 *PATT: ⌊3 Was that World ⌋3 War Two 680875_682015 or World ⌈4 War One ⌉4 . 682015_683070 *LORI: ⌊4 I don't know ⌋4 . 682395_682950 *LORI: (..) I don't know . 682950_684190 *LORI: (.) But I think that was part of the problem 684190_685560 ⌈ because they couldn't be ⌉ +... 685560_686920 *DEBO: ⌊ More World War Two ⌋ 685560_686730 XXX . 686730_687260 *LORI: Was it Two: ? 687260_688155 *LORI: (..) Deb⌈orah ⌉ ? 688560_690285 *KIM: ⌊ I think ⌋ +... 688115_688665 *LORI: (..) ⌈2 Yeah ⌉2 . 689500_689950 *DEBO: ⌊2 I think ⌋2 more 689550_690260 (.) more ⌈3 &{l=X was World War Two &}l=X ⌉3 . 690260_691815 *LIND: ⌊3 Well they were transferring ⌋3 the power in India 690260_693095 ⌈4 weren't they: ⌉4 . 693090_693810 *LORI: ⌊4 to be in the thirties ⌋4 . 692950_694115 *LIND: (.) Uh 694010_694580 (..) more like World War Two . 694585_696990 *EVEL: (.) M⌈hm ⌉ . 696630_697605 *LIND: ⌊ I ⌋ ⌈2 mean Ne:ru: [% laugh] ⌉2 . 697175_698200 *PATT: ⌊2 when Gandhi ⌋2 +... 697120_698085 *LORI: (.) So the thir⌈3ties and ⌉3 forties maybe . 698085_699950 *LIND: ⌊3 was ⌋3 +... 698565_699120 *DIAN: (..) ⌈4 Yeah ⌉4 . 700225_700960 *JANI: ⌊4 M⌋4⌈5hm ⌉5 . 700645_701605 *EVEL: ⌊5 time ⌋5 of Gandhi 700750_701865 and all: ⌈6 of ⌉6 ⌈7 that ⌉7 . 701865_703010 *PATT: ⌊6 M⌋6⌊7hm ⌋7 . 702230_702790 *LIND: ⌊7 Un⌋7hunh . 702315_702765 *HARR: ⌈8 Unhunh ⌉8 . 702920_703520 *PATT: ⌊8 Mhm ⌋8 . 703055_703550 *JANI: (..) &=in It ⌈9 was ⌉9 kind of interesting to read these uh . 703675_708120 *DIAN: ⌊9 Hm ⌋9 . 705600_705830 *JANI: (..) critical (.) reviews . 708170_710620 *JANI: I got this out of the book (..) review digest . 710620_713515 *JANI: since it was written in nineteen ten . 713440_715465 *JANI: (..) &=in Reviews &{l=@ were writ⌈ten in ⌉ nineteen ten &}l=@ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌈2 &=laugh ⌉2 . 715465_718610 *EVEL: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ 716695_717265 ⌊2 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋2 . 718160_718640 *LIND: ⌊2 Hm ⌋2 . 718255_718590 *JANI: &=in &=lengthened . 718590_719195 *PATT: &=laugh &=laugh . 719195_719405 *DIAN: ⌈ Hunh ⌉ . 719390_719920 *JANI: ⌊ Here's one ⌋ +... 719340_720050 *NORA: (.) ⌈2 When was the ⌉2 book written . 720070_721380 *DIAN: ⌊2 &=in ⌋2 . 721110_721630 *JANI: (.) Nine⌈3teen ten ⌉3 . 721630_722960 *DIAN: ⌊3 nineteen ten ⌋3 . 721910_723015 *LIND: It was published 722665_723440 (.) yeah . 723440_724050 *JANI: (.) Published in nineteen ten . 723910_725110 *JANI: (..) &=in Um 725110_726450 (..) &{l=READ Mister Forster &}l=READ 726420_727545 (.) this is from the New York Times . 727545_729010 *JANI: in nineteen +/. 729010_729780 *JANI: (.) February nineteen eleven . 729620_731335 *PATT: &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh . 731325_731975 *DIAN: ⌈ &=ex &=lengthened ⌉ . 731975_733080 *JANI: ⌊ &{l=READ Mister Forster ⌋ seems to write conventional comedy . 731975_735255 *JANI: (..) &=in ⌈2 for ⌉2 that his ⌈3 sense of character values ⌉3 is entirely adequate . 735195_739785 *X: ⌊2 &=laugh ⌋2 . 736045_736510 *DIAN: ⌊3 &=ex &=lengthened &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋3 . 736510_737905 *JANI: &=in (..) whi:le there his blith- blithe manner 739785_742765 and journalistic ʔuh: wittiness of phrase serves him well . 742765_746400 *JANI: &=in But he invinces neither power nor inclination 746400_749370 to come to grips with any vital human problem &}l=READ . 749370_751900 *PATT: &=laugh . 751935_752235 *LIND: &=laugh ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 752195_753900 *JANI: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh which totally dis⌋regre- +/. 752680_754455 *JANI: disagrees with ⌈2 everything ⌉2 we've been saying this afternoon . 754455_757075 *LIND: ⌊2 &=in &=lengthened ⌋2 . 755220_755780 *DIAN: But what a different (.) ⌈3 wording ⌉3 of a review . 757075_759485 *LIND: ⌊3 &=in ⌋3 . 758080_758690 *DIAN: too . 759485_759800 *DIAN: ⌈ It's so ⌉ (.) ⌈2 proper ⌉2 . 759800_761225 *LIND: ⌊ Ye:s ⌋ . 759800_760520 *EVEL: ⌊ Mm ⌋ . 759600_760385 *JANI: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 759925_760595 *LIND: ⌊2 True ⌋2 . 760630_761305 *DIAN: an:d ⌈3 stilted ⌉3 . 761165_762255 *MANY: ⌊3 Unhunh ⌋3 . 761430_762175 *DIAN: ⌈4 and ⌉4 . 762255_762530 *SUE: ⌊4 Yeah ⌋4 . 761890_762560 *LIND: ⌈5 True ⌉5 . 762350_763220 *LORI: ⌊5 X ⌋5 . 762255_762760 *LIND: (.) &=laugh ⌈6 &=laugh &=laugh ⌉6 . 762890_764530 *JANI: ⌊6 Saturday re⌋6view said 763410_764725 ⌈7 &{l=READ whether one ⌉7 likes it or not . 764725_766080 *LORI: ⌊7 X ⌋7 . 764660_765190 *LIND: ⌊7 &=in ⌋7 . 764865_765240 *JANI: ⌈8 Howard's End ⌉8 is a rea:l novel &}l=READ . 766080_767920 *X: ⌊8 XXX ⌋8 . 765715_766385 *JANI: (.) That was in nineteen ten . 767985_769485 *SUE: &=laugh . 769085_769570 *DIAN: &=laugh ⌈ &=lengthened &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 769505_770645 *SUE: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 770335_770900 *JANI: and 770865_771145 (.) something that 771145_771990 (.) ʔuh: &{l=X it was &}l=X ab⌊brevi⌋ated capital SPEC . 771990_775030 *LIND: ⌊ &=laugh ⌋ . 773165_773625 *JANI: I don't ⌈2 know ⌉2 (.) what it was . 775030_776620 *LIND: ⌊2 &=in ⌋2 . 775270_775880 *JANI: (..) &{l=READ But if his defects are exasperating 776620_779590 his qualities are remarkable . 779590_781350 *JANI: (.) &=in Vivid characterization 781350_783070 a happy command of dialog 783070_784780 (.) &=in and a f- +/. 784720_785795 *JANI: (.) and a f:reakish (.) humor . 785470_787565 *JANI: (..) The clash⌈: ⌉ of modern culture . 787565_789915 *X: ⌊ Hm ⌋ . 788520_788905 *JANI: (.) and modern materialism . 789915_791615 *LIND: &=SNIFF . 791270_791605 *JANI: has seldom found 791635_792950 a more vivid interpreter &}l=READ . 792950_794425 *JANI: (.) &=laugh ⌈ &=laugh ⌉ &=laugh ⌈2 &=laugh &=laugh ⌉2 . 794930_795640 *X: ⌊ &=tsk ⌋ . 794795_795155 *DIAN: ⌊2 &=in ⌋2 . 794950_795755 *LIND: ⌈3 Oh ⌉3 . 795640_796070 *X: ⌊3 I've never ⌋3 seen that . 796070_797440 *DIAN: &{l=SM Does the ⌈4 library have ⌉4 these magazines on microfilm . 796210_798990 *SUE: ⌊4 Oh my ⌋4 . 796570_797115 *DIAN: clear back to ⌈5 nineteen ⌉5 ten &}l=SM ? 798990_800450 *X: ⌊5 &=ex ⌋5 . 799610_800205 *JANI: Well this is from (.) the Book Review Digest . 800450_802960 *JANI: (.) So they have all of these little ⌈ reviews ⌉ . 802960_804780 *LIND: ⌊ Ah: ⌋ . 804065_804785 *NORA: Oh I ⌈2 didn't ⌉2 ⌈3 know they had ⌉3 ⌈4 that at- +... 804785_806040 *JANI: ⌊2 on ⌋2 ⌊3 this one ⌋3 ⌊4 page . 804875_806250 *LIND: ⌊3 Uhuh ⌋3 . 804920_805675 *JANI: that ⌋4 ⌈5 they've ⌉5 (.) collected . 806320_807385 *NORA: that ⌉4 ⌊5 early ⌋5 . 805980_806735 *DIAN: ⌊5 Oh ⌋5 . 806355_807170 *JANI: ⌈6 of ⌉6 +... 807470_807850 *DIAN: ⌊6 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋6 . 807065_807550 *PATT: Oh: 807550_807980 ⌈ My ⌉ . 807970_808425 *JANI: ⌊ of his ⌋ ⌈2 book ⌉2 . 807935_808960 *PATT: ⌊2 I didn't ⌋2 +/. 808495_808755 *PATT: ⌈3 haven't ⌉3 seen ⌈4 that ⌉4 . 808745_809385 *DIAN: ⌊3 &=laugh ⌋3 . 808775_808970 *EVEL: ⌊4 But ⌋4 Janice . 809220_809855 *EVEL: ⌈5 You did an awful lot of research on it ⌉5 . 809855_812005 *NORA: ⌊5 Cause I took that uh ⌋5 +... 809855_811525 *EVEL: ⌈6 I mean those reviews ⌉6 . 812005_813315 *JANI: ⌊6 &=laugh &=lengthened &=laugh ⌋6 ⌈7 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉7 . 812005_813310 *MANY: ⌊6 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋6 . 812395_813135 *LIND: ⌊6 Yeah ⌋6 . 812935_813315 *EVEL: ⌊7 That was ⌋7 ⌈8 wonderful ⌉8 . 813240_814450 *DIAN: ⌊7 Yeah ⌋7 . 813265_813645 *LIND: ⌊8 Yeah ⌋8 . 813680_814065 *JANI: &=in Well I ⌈9 didn't ⌉9 spend too much time ⌈ putting it ⌉ ⌈2 together &=laugh &=laugh ⌉2 . 814460_817310 *SUE: ⌊9 But ⌋9 +... 814530_814925 *EVEL: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 815640_816315 *MANY: ⌊2 &=LAUGHTER ⌋2 . 816330_817990 *SUE: ⌈3 But moder:n ⌉3 . 817725_818930 *LORI: ⌊3 XXXXXXXX ⌋3 . 817725_818855 *SUE: modern culture 818940_820190 and modern (.) materialism 820190_822555 (..) I mean that's essentially what we're ⌈ saying ⌉ . 822555_824965 *EVEL: ⌊ That's what ⌋ ⌈2 we've been ⌉2 ⌈3 saying ⌉3 . 824295_825615 *LIND: ⌊2 That's right ⌋2 . 824750_825345 *SUE: ⌊3 Cultu:re ⌋3 . 825250_825965 *DIAN: ⌊3 Mhm ⌋3 . 825215_825620 *SUE: ⌈4 and materi⌉4⌈5alism . 825965_827135 *LIND: ⌊4 That's right ⌋4 . 825865_826635 *JANI: ⌊5 That's right ⌋5 . 826495_827290 *SUE: So ⌉5 827110_827325 &=in So they +... 827370_828135 *JANI: That was +... 828135_828585 *SUE: even there they &{l=@ hit it on the head &}l=@ . 828585_830180 *LIND: ⌈ uh ⌉ +... 830180_830495 *JANI: ⌊ That's ⌋ ⌈2 right ⌉2 . 830180_831025 *EVEL: ⌊2 M⌋2hm . 830435_831055 *SUE: (.) &=in ⌈3 The the ⌉3 humor we're having a little trouble with ⌈4 though ⌉4 . 831095_834345 *JANI: ⌊3 That's right ⌋3 . 831655_832375 *LORI: ⌊4 Yeah I ⌋4 . 833960_834395 *MANY: ⌊4 &=LAUGHTER ⌋4 ⌈5 &=lengthened ⌉5 . 834395_836175 *LORI: ⌊5 XX the humor ⌋5 . 834395_835485 *SUE: (.) ⌈6 well . 836030_836155 *X: ⌊6 &=in ⌋6 . 836070_836810 *SUE: although ⌉6 836160_836655 ⌈7 it was ⌉7 . 836615_837265 *X: ⌊7 XX ⌋7 . 837105_837400 *SUE: (..) There were- +/. 837400_837745 *SUE: there were times when it w- +/. 837745_838940 *SUE: (.) it wa:s under- underlying humor 838940_841405 a little bit . 841405_842160 *EVEL: Mhm . 841910_842255 *SUE: ⌈ You know . 842205_842550 *DIAN: ⌊ English humor ⌋ . 842275_843140 *SUE: the- ⌉ +/. 842560_842770 *SUE: &=in The like +/. 842770_843675 *SUE: like the t- +/. 843675_844290 *SUE: (.) in the movie at least 844290_845635 that 845635_845870 (.) when the Ba:sts come to the 845870_847745 &=in to the wedding reception 847745_849445 a:nd 849460_849995 (.) ⌈ and ⌉ . 849995_850810 *LOIS: ⌊ Oh ⌋ yes . 850400_850970 *SUE: Jacky: 850970_851410 sits down there and &{l=@ starts shoveling in the food 851445_853905 and drinking the drinks 853895_855000 and it's really &}l=@ +/. 855000_855870 *SUE: &=in It's funny until: then they have the confron⌈tation with ⌉ Henry . 855870_859560 *EVEL: ⌊ Right ⌋ . 858645_859135 *SUE: And then ⌈2 it isn't ⌉2 funny anymore . 859760_861320 *EVEL: ⌊2 Right ⌋2 . 859950_860460 *LIND: Mm . 861145_861700 *SUE: &=in ⌈ But it is kind of humorous ⌉ . 861710_863005 *EVEL: ⌊ Well I +/. 861820_862350 *EVEL: ʔuh I was gonna tell you ⌋ of the one oth- +/. 862350_863835 *EVEL: the: other 863835_864720 uh young person 864720_865915 that I talked to about the book 865890_867460 &=in was a former student 867510_868700 who is now a psychiatrist 868700_870385 who lives in California . 870385_871950 *EVEL: (.) We were talking about the book 871780_873985 &=in or about the movie . 873975_875080 *EVEL: (.) He hadn't read the book . 875080_876210 *EVEL: He said 876210_876700 it was a good movie 876700_878170 &=in but not a great movie . 878160_879805 *EVEL: (..) And he said it was without passion . 879805_882550 *LIND: (..) &{l=X Oh my &}l=X . 882365_884250 *X: Hm . 884245_884630 *DIAN: ⌈ Hm ⌉ . 884630_884820 *EVEL: ⌊ So ⌋ 884735_885115 ⌈2 Now: . 885170_885595 *X: ⌊2 &{l=X Oh 885385_885590 good heavens &}l=X ⌋2 . 885590_886270 *EVEL: what do you make of ⌉2 that . 885615_886600 *EVEL: ⌈3 I don't know w- ⌉3 +... 886600_887670 *DIAN: ⌊3 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋3 . 886900_887655 *LIND: ⌈4 M: ⌉4 . 887235_887815 *JANI: ⌊4 I think ⌋4 ⌈5 that's typical of English movies ⌉5 . 887370_889695 *DIAN: ⌊5 &=in He definitely wouldn't like (.) ⌋5 ⌈6 Michael ⌉6 ⌈7 XX ⌉7 . 888075_890590 *EVEL: ⌊6 Well ⌋6 . 889655_890090 *JANI: ⌊7 That's ⌋7 +... 890065_890355 *EVEL: ⌊7 Uh ⌋7 uh yeah . 890180_891155 *LORI: ⌈8 &=laugh &=laugh ⌉8 . 890880_891100 *JANI: ⌊8 I I ⌋8 ⌈9 really do ⌉9 . 890955_892265 *EVEL: ⌊9 I thought ⌋9 891285_892100 (.) uhuh . 892100_892685 *EVEL: I thought 892685_893115 and I think I said 893115_894290 &{l=Q well 894290_894550 maybe it was because it was English &}l=Q . 894550_896080 *EVEL: ⌈ They &{l=X are &}l=X ⌉ +... 896080_896440 *LIND: ⌊ Unhunh ⌋ . 896185_896595 *EVEL: it's all kind of ⌈2 uh ⌉2 +... 896440_897780 *LIND: ⌊2 I don't ⌋2 know how you can say it's ⌈3 without ⌉3 passion . 897445_899730 *EVEL: ⌊3 XX ⌋3 898500_899155 I didn't think so ei⌈4ther ⌉4 . 899730_901360 *LIND: ⌊4 I ⌋4 ⌈5 mean ⌉5 . 900910_901495 *EVEL: ⌊5 But ⌋5 ⌈6 &{l=X I didn't argue &}l=X ⌉6 . 901260_902610 *PATT: ⌊5 Well ⌋5 ⌊6 the passion of ⌋6 Leonard Bast 901355_903620 and and Helen 903600_904680 and then the passion of Charles 904715_906695 &=in and the confron⌈tation with ⌉ ⌈2 Leonard ⌉2 +... 906770_909155 *EVEL: ⌊ Mhm: ⌋ . 907885_908645 *LORI: ⌊2 No but that's ⌋2 tragedy . 908605_909650 *LORI: (.) ⌈3 That's ⌉3 not necessarily passion . 909650_911465 *LIND: ⌊3 the- ⌋3 +/. 909905_910320 *LIND: ⌈4 Well what uh ⌉4 +... 911315_912080 *PATT: ⌊4 NO but it ⌋4 ⌈5 was XX ⌉5 +... 911610_912335 *LIND: ⌊5 XXX what are we talking about ⌋5 passion . 912080_914085 *EVEL: ⌊5 Well I think it ⌋5 +... 912080_913080 *LIND: ⌈6 Let's define passion ⌉6 . 914085_915645 *EVEL: ⌊6 Well XXXX ⌋6 ⌈7 I think how we define it . 914085_916385 *DEBO: ⌊7 XXX passion means to XX ⌋7 . 914525_916450 *EVEL: Yeah ⌉7 . 916450_916745 *EVEL: ⌈8 Passion ⌉8 . 916745_917240 *MANY: ⌊8 Mhm ⌋8 . 916660_917335 *EVEL: I think probably he meant 917290_918880 well 918880_919325 trong feeling . 919475_920495 *LIND: Yeah . 920495_920795 *EVEL: Not sex . 920840_921705 *LIND: Yeah . 921705_922110 *LORI: Mhm . 921910_922415 *EVEL: but more: strong ⌈ feeling ⌉ . 922195_924045 *LORI: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 923270_923750 *LIND: &=in ⌈2 Look at Margaret's uh ⌉2 . 923705_925710 *SUE: ⌊2 Well certainly there wasn't passion ⌋2 between (..) Henry (.) and (.) Margaret . 924255_928340 *DIAN: (..) Yeah there was . 928340_929250 *EVEL: ⌈ No: ⌉ . 929110_929915 *LIND: ⌊ Oh yes ⌋ ⌈2 there ⌉2 ⌈3 was ⌉3 ? 929430_930965 *DIAN: ⌊2 No ⌋2 . 929600_929970 *EVEL: ⌊3 but ⌋3 strong feel⌈4ings ⌉4 . 930335_931885 *JANI: ⌊4 but ⌋4 +... 931430_931675 *SUE: Strong +/. 931715_932175 *SUE: ⌈ Well . 932295_932675 *JANI: ⌊ Strong feeling . 932185_933190 *SUE: strong feeling . 932720_933715 *JANI: I mean it isn't ⌋ +... 933155_934295 *SUE: but ⌉ not pas⌈2sionate ⌉2 . 933660_935150 *LORI: ⌊2 I don't think there's ⌋2 strong feelings in this book that much . 934550_937325 *LORI: ʔuh only for Howard's End . 937325_938675 *JANI: (..) Ruth ⌈ had ⌉ +... 938675_939970 *LORI: ⌊ ʔuh ⌋ Ruth had strong feelings for Howard's End 939730_941800 and it didn't do her one bit of good 941800_943290 (.) because it- +/. 943290_943835 *LORI: her (.) bequest was ignored 943835_946510 &=in and the rest of the people are just kind of (.) floating along . 946470_949695 *LIND: (.) Oh no no no no no . 949695_951535 *DIAN: (.) &=laugh . 951535_951835 *LORI: See 951700_951940 I don't ⌈ get that ⌉ . 951940_952850 *LIND: ⌊ Helen has ⌋ tremendous passion about her beliefs . 952280_954920 *LIND: &=in (.) Margaret's ⌈2 speech to Henry ⌉2 . 954920_958010 *LORI: ⌊2 Well about her beliefs 956225_956995 but they don't make one bit ⌋2 of difference 956995_958680 (.) ⌈3 in the whole world . 958540_959460 *LIND: ⌊3 Margaret's speech ⌋3 to Henry . 958795_960760 *LORI: &=laugh ⌉3 . 959735_960110 *LIND: (..) is one of the most passionate things I ⌈4 have ever read ⌉4 . 960725_964040 *LORI: ⌊4 &{l=X Well I found that part &}l=X ⌋4 ⌈5 XX ⌉5 . 963135_964650 *LIND: ⌊5 I thought ⌋5 . 964095_965220 *EVEL: ⌊5 She mowed him down ⌋5 964095_965200 ⌈6 didn't she ⌉6 . 965200_965865 *XEVE: ⌊6 &=in I thought ⌋6 it was ⌈7 beautiful ⌉7 . 965390_966860 *PATT: ⌊7 Mhm ⌋7 . 966455_966885 *LIND: and later it says 966850_967800 she thought back over that 967785_969065 and she wouldn't have changed a word of it . 969065_970895 *MANY: &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh . 970840_971680 *LIND: &=in absolutely [% laugh] 971680_972980 &=in oh I think there was a lot of feeling 972900_974920 (.) a lo:t of feeling . 974920_976945 *DIAN: (..) Was this novel popular when it was published ? 976175_979640 *EVEL: (..) Uh 979640_981080 according to the professor [% laugh] . 981080_982940 *X: &=laugh &=laugh . 983005_983515 *SUE: &=laugh &=laugh . 983285_983685 *LORI: &=laugh &=laugh . 983600_984445 *EVEL: &{l=X that &}l=X it is a classic of change . 984150_986680 *EVEL: (..) It is w- uh one of the uh 986680_989055 classic novels 989060_990670 that has to do with change . 990635_992265 *LIND: But did the people like it . 992265_993550 *JANI: (..) ⌈ Tradition and change ⌉ . 993550_995230 *LIND: ⌊ When they read it ⌋ . 994150_994950 *LIND: &=in Back ⌈2 then ⌉2 . 994950_995975 *EVEL: ⌊2 I would ⌋2 imagine ⌈3 that he was ⌉3 ⌈4 popular with XXX ⌉4 . 995550_998980 *NORA: ⌊3 Well is it ⌋3 ⌊4 being revi:ved now: ⌋4 ? 996665_999060 *LIND: ⌊4 I think he was popular ⌋4 . 997370_999315 *EVEL: ⌈5 Or ⌉5 . 998970_999340 *DIAN: ⌊5 seems ⌋5 ⌈6 to be ⌉6 . 999170_1000125 *KIM: ⌊6 well 999480_999690 in the ⌋6 ⌈7 introduction ⌉7 it said . 999690_1001045 *LIND: ⌊7 I don't know ⌋7 . 999975_1000765 *KIM: that ⌈8 in the forties . 1001045_1002005 *NORA: ⌊8 They are doing that with so many of those now ⌋8 . 1001290_1003660 *KIM: when they w- +/. 1001990_1002555 *KIM: you had uh ⌉8 1002555_1003635 Fitz- uh gerald 1003635_1004780 and uh . 1004780_1005695 *LORI: (.) Hemingway⌈: ⌉ . 1005695_1007310 *KIM: ⌊ and ⌋ other: well-known writers 1006875_1009160 (.) uh 1009060_1009545 Hemingway and Faulkner 1009500_1010750 &=in and 1010750_1011630 and yet this guy was still up there in the forties . 1011630_1014160 *KIM: (.) And this book was written in nineteen ten . 1014160_1016030 *KIM: &=in I didn't care for it . 1016030_1017595 *KIM: (.) I +/. 1017535_1017800 *KIM: well you know what turned me off ? 1017800_1018910 *KIM: &=in The (.) the hi- the big description about the dumb old umbrella . 1018910_1022950 *XKIM: ⌊ and did the umbrella have uh 1023430_1025610 a smoo:th ⌋ end on it . 1025620_1027510 *KIM: or did it have a knobby ⌈2 end . 1027585_1029340 *MANY: ⌊2 &=LAUGHTER ⌋2 . 1028745_1031110 *KIM: and I thought 1029085_1029810 (.) for crying out ⌉2 1029845_1031360 why am I sitting wasting my time reading about ⌈3 umbrella hands ⌉3 . 1031360_1035655 *X: ⌊2 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋2 . 1033615_1034555 *SUE: ⌊3 &=in ⌋3 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 1035120_1037025 ⌈4 and then Helen says . 1036755_1037860 *KIM: ⌊4 and 1036755_1037015 (.) and the description of the music . 1037015_1038810 *SUE: &{l=Q oh 1037815_1038180 we gr- +/. 1038180_1038595 *SUE: we ⌉4 ⌈5 steal umbrellas all the time [% laugh] &}l=Q ⌉5 . 1038650_1040990 *KIM: and ⌋4 ⌊5 X XXX XXX: ⌋5 . 1038730_1040285 *LORI: ⌊5 We steal em all the time ⌋5 . 1039010_1040850 *DIAN: ⌈6 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉6 . 1040635_1041710 *LIND: ⌊6 That was part of ⌋6 ⌈7 the humor ⌉7 . 1040860_1042375 *KIM: ⌊7 There's got to be ⌋7 something ⌈8 better ⌉8 ⌈9 to read ⌉9 . 1041585_1043385 *SUE: ⌊8 &=laugh ⌋8 . 1042455_1043530 *EVEL: ⌊9 Hunh ⌋9 . 1042860_1043530 *LIND: &=laugh . 1043565_1043965 *JANI: ⌈ Now ⌉ that was supposed to be part of the +... 1043725_1045290 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1044590_1045425 *JANI: &=in I did +/. 1045335_1045765 *JANI: ⌈ I did not enjoy ⌉ +... 1045765_1047365 *KIM: ⌊ &=in Was that supposed to be ⌋ humor ? 1046270_1047545 *KIM: (..) ⌈2 I- I- ⌉2 +... 1048125_1048815 *JANI: ⌊2 That's Eng⌋2lish hu⌈3mor ⌉3 ⌈4 &=ex ⌉4 . 1047960_1049410 *DEBO: ⌊3 Did you ⌋3 ⌊4 enjoy it ⌋4 ? 1048810_1050105 *LIND: ⌊4 Somewhat ⌋4 . 1049000_1049975 *EVEL: ⌈5 Mhm ⌉5 . 1049340_1050400 *LIND: ⌊5 &=in ⌋5 ⌈6 Or at least (.) Helen a:nd Margaret's ⌉6 humor . 1050235_1053580 *JANI: ⌊6 I did not enjoy reading &{l=X the book &}l=X ⌋6 . 1050510_1052550 *DIAN: ⌊6 X (.) &{l=X above average &}l=X ⌋6 . 1051340_1052200 *LIND: ⌈7 That was their ⌉7 humor . 1053955_1055110 *MANY: ⌊7 Mhm ⌋7 . 1053655_1054800 *DEBO: (.) I just couldn't ⌈8 XXXX . 1054930_1056175 *JANI: ⌊8 &=in But I enjoyed (.) the movie ⌋8 . 1055800_1057590 *DEBO: (.) Couldn't quite get ⌉8 into ⌈9 it ⌉9 . 1056625_1058375 *JANI: ⌊9 &=in ⌋9 . 1058020_1058365 *DIAN: (.) &{l=X Yeah &}l=X . 1056840_1057330 *JANI: ⌈ I think that helped me appreciate the book ⌉ . 1058290_1060510 *LORI: ⌊ Well Evelyn helped me (.) stay with ⌋ the book . 1058395_1060550 *LORI: (.) Because she said it was written in a different time 1060550_1063010 (.) &=in and of course it's British 1062760_1064860 (..) and so 1064860_1065960 (.) because I was having trouble getting started . 1065960_1067780 *LORI: ⌈ I (.) got hung ⌉ up . 1067780_1068785 *X: ⌊ &=in &=lengthened ⌋ . 1067820_1068705 *LORI: and it doesn't make any difference 1068785_1070230 but 1070230_1070490 ʔuh (.) when you were reading the review 1070490_1072315 you talked about the affair between Helen and Paul 1072430_1075165 (.) did I get the right names 1074970_1076265 &=in (.) And I thought 1076265_1077870 (.) all that happened was . 1077840_1078990 *LIND: was a kiss . 1078730_1079655 *LORI: ⌈ He +... 1079325_1079750 *LIND: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1079670_1080770 *LORI: He kissed her 1079715_1080440 and ⌉ 1080450_1080770 ⌈2 and they had ⌉2 +... 1081000_1081890 *SUE: ⌊2 I thought so ⌋2 too . 1080770_1082020 *LOIS: ⌈3 I thought so too ⌉3 . 1082100_1083085 *LORI: ⌊3 And they had this ⌋3 1081780_1082715 (.) and they had this understanding of the ⌈4 souls . 1082715_1085660 *JANI: ⌊4 Oh: 1085315_1085625 ye:s ⌋4 . 1085660_1086280 *LORI: that they were in ⌉4 ⌈5 love ⌉5 . 1085660_1086715 *LIND: ⌊5 Yeah ⌋5 . 1086235_1086715 *LIND: ⌈6 I think that's true ⌉6 . 1086715_1087970 *LORI: ⌊6 &=in And ⌋6 +... 1087310_1087995 *X: ⌊6 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋6 . 1086930_1088155 *LORI: and I'm thinking 1087880_1089070 &=in what is the big deal about this . 1089070_1090745 *LORI: ⌈ This aunt ⌉ is coming down here . 1090660_1092280 *X: ⌊ &=ex ⌋ . 1090520_1091005 *LORI: ⌈2 Everybody's getting in an uproar ⌉2 . 1092280_1093610 *X: ⌊2 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋2 . 1092480_1093385 *LORI: because somebody thought they liked somebody . 1093610_1095510 *LORI: I +/. 1095510_1095845 *LORI: (.) you know 1095840_1096085 I got lost in that 1096095_1097250 and 1097205_1097675 &=in I talked to Evelyn 1097380_1098420 and she said &{l=Q now y- just stay with it 1098380_1099730 it's written in a different time &}l=Q 1099730_1100880 and I thought okay 1100845_1101535 a different time 1101415_1102170 yes 1102170_1102420 ⌈ maybe that is ⌉ important . 1102420_1103815 *EVEL: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1102320_1102980 *LORI: ⌈2 &{l=@ You know &}l=@ &=laugh ⌉2 . 1103790_1105305 *DIAN: ⌊2 &=laugh &=lengthened ⌋2 . 1103975_1104860 *LORI: &=in &{l=X &{l=@ Come on &}l=@ &}l=X . 1104760_1105320 *LIND: ⌈ Well Lori ⌉ . 1105315_1105810 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1105350_1105890 *LIND: did you ⌈2 see the ⌉2 movie . 1105810_1107255 *LORI: ⌊2 So ⌋2 1106235_1106690 (.) No 1107020_1107435 I'm going to rent it . 1107420_1108180 *LORI: (.) &{l=@ After ⌈ I leave &{l=X here today &}l=X &}l=@ ⌉ . 1108180_1109710 *LIND: ⌊ See I think +/. 1108765_1109455 *LIND: I ⌋ ⌈2 think ⌉2 ⌈3 it's better to see the movie first . 1109455_1111835 *EVEL: ⌊2 &=laugh ⌋2 . 1109715_1110135 *DIAN: ⌊3 I am too Lori 1110135_1111540 &=laugh &=lengthened &=laugh ⌋3 . 1111540_1112135 *LIND: and then ⌉3 read the book . 1111760_1112640 *LORI: I think it'll help . 1112660_1113720 *LIND: (.) I think ⌈ it ⌉ +... 1113355_1114450 *LORI: ⌊ I think ⌋ 1113960_1114480 Well 1114440_1114655 ⌈ and it's getting a little ⌉ ⌈2 f:- +... 1114655_1115655 *EVEL: ⌊ M: ⌋ . 1114245_1115725 *LIND: ⌊ It's: ⌋ ⌊2 a good way to do it ⌋2 . 1115225_1116105 *LORI: (.) you know ⌉2 1115755_1116045 I'm getting more into ⌈3 the characters ⌉3 . 1116120_1117695 *X: ⌊3 &=in ⌋3 . 1116940_1117410 *PATT: ⌈4 Well ⌉4 . 1117410_1117660 *EVEL: ⌊4 M⌋4hm . 1117340_1118590 *PATT: One time in ⌈5 this ⌉5 ⌈6 group ⌉6 . 1118155_1119595 *LORI: ⌊5 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋5 . 1118610_1119090 *DIAN: ⌊6 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋6 . 1119125_1119835 *PATT: (.) &=in and I think it was 1119735_1121555 (.) I don't remember if it was Evelyn (.) or (.) Deborah . 1121555_1124255 *PATT: (.) &{l=@ But it was probably &}l=@ +/. 1124255_1125520 *PATT: it was one of those people who are so knowledge⌈able [% laugh] . 1125245_1127740 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ &=laugh ⌈2 &=laugh ⌉2 . 1127335_1128595 *PATT: it wasn't ⌉ 1127750_1128400 ⌊2 was ⌋2 +... 1128345_1128635 *EVEL: ⌊2 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋2 1128735_1129805 ⌈3 &=laugh Oh: ⌉3 . 1129380_1129630 *PATT: ⌊3 certainly wasn't any &{l=X of us &}l=X ⌋3 . 1128580_1129820 *LORI: ⌈4 Might have been Nora ⌉4 . 1129560_1130485 *EVEL: ⌊4 Come on ⌋4 . 1129635_1130290 *EVEL: Tell ⌈5 me about it ⌉5 . 1130290_1131185 *MANY: ⌊5 &=LAUGHTER ⌋5 ⌈6 &=lengthened ⌉6 &=lengthened . 1130580_1131330 *PATT: ⌊5 He +/. 1130370_1130830 *PATT: He ⌋5 ⌊6 talked ⌋6 1130830_1131655 ʔuh: They ⌈7 talked ⌉7 about what makes ⌈8 a ⌉8 classic . 1131655_1134625 *LIND: ⌊7 &=laugh ⌋7 1132140_1132520 ⌊8 &=laugh ⌋8 1133280_1134210 (.) ⌈9 Oh: ⌉9 . 1134315_1135365 *PATT: ⌊9 And they had ⌋9 several ⌈ criteria ⌉ . 1134650_1136630 *LORI: ⌊ Oh: ⌋ . 1136040_1136800 *PATT: and I've for⌈2gotten ⌉2 some of ⌈3 them . 1136635_1138040 *X: ⌊2 &=tsk ⌋2 . 1136970_1137390 *LIND: ⌊3 Oh: ⌋3 . 1137830_1138530 *PATT: but the ones ⌉3 I can think of 1138010_1139585 is that it has to be able to be read (.) on many levels . 1139585_1143480 *LIND: (.) Yeah . 1143505_1143945 *PATT: And I think that this ⌈ is one of those ⌉ books . 1143945_1146490 *LIND: ⌊ This one does ⌋ . 1145215_1146120 *PATT: that you can read 1147590_1152960 &=in as just a story about these people who are wanting to- to live at this Howard's End 1147830_1152925 &=in or you can read it (.) as the clash between the intellectual 1152910_1157390 &=in and the practical 1157390_1158865 &=in or between (.) England (.) and Germany . 1158865_1162185 *PATT: (.) Which is really what ⌈ they're getting ⌉ ⌈2 down to was the ⌉2 ⌈3 basis of ⌉3 that . 1162185_1166060 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1163500_1164390 *X: ⌊2 Mhm ⌋2 . 1164370_1165400 *LORI: ⌊2 &{l=X That was something &}l=X ⌋2 . 1163575_1164320 *EVEL: ⌊3 Mhm ⌋3 . 1164320_1165450 *PATT: &=in It can be read at any time 1165480_1168045 (.) it can ap:ply to England in nineteen ten 1168045_1171090 (..) or it can apply to America in nineteen ninety-three 1170775_1174445 with how far are we going to go with entitlements . 1174445_1177740 *DIAN: (.) ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 1177740_1178705 *PATT: ⌊ how much ⌋ are we going to take from &=in the uh 1177870_1181265 (.) so called really wealthy 1181140_1182765 who's the only people that's going to be touched by this budget . 1182765_1185305 *MANY: ⌈ &=LAUGHTER ⌉ ⌈2 &=lengthened ⌉2 . 1185305_1188330 *LIND: ⌊ &{l=@ Yeah 1185380_1185820 how nice &}l=@ ⌋ . 1185820_1186610 *PATT: ⌊ And (.) all of ⌋ ⌊2 these things ⌋2 1185820_1187410 ⌈3 and give ⌉3 to these ⌈4 poor ⌉4 . 1187410_1189185 *DIAN: ⌊3 You forg- ⌋3 +... 1187480_1188055 *LIND: ⌊4 &=in ⌋4 . 1188695_1189260 *PATT: ⌈5 &{l=X I mean even the &}l=X ⌉5 +... 1189220_1190150 *DIAN: ⌊5 You forgot the ⌋5 corporate income tax which is going up and up and up and up and up 1189180_1192990 and if somebody says entitlements one more time I'm gonna ⌈ s:cream . 1192990_1195870 *PATT: ⌊ Okay ⌋ 1195600_1195885 I won't say that . 1195885_1196385 *DIAN: Why are these ⌉ en⌈2t:itlements ⌉2 . 1195760_1197475 *PATT: ⌊2 &{l=X I won't say that &}l=X ⌋2 . 1196730_1197315 *DIAN: Why are you entitled ⌈3 to this ⌉3 . 1197420_1199390 *KIM: ⌊3 The corporate income ⌋3 tax is going ⌈4 to be raised ⌉4 ⌈5 (.) ⌉5 one (.) percent . 1198430_1202855 *DIAN: ⌊4 &=laugh &=laugh ⌋4 . 1200465_1201085 *LIND: ⌊5 &=laugh ⌋5 . 1201055_1201680 *KIM: &=in And so therefore the g- big corporations in the U_S are backing this budget change in Washington . 1203370_1208840 *PATT: (..) &=in Well 1208870_1209565 at any rate 1209545_1210175 (.) I think ⌈ there's ⌉ +... 1210230_1210955 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1210450_1211320 *PATT: ⌈2 That ⌉2 is as +... 1210995_1211735 *LIND: ⌊2 &=laugh ⌋2 1210965_1211430 &=laugh . 1211715_1212015 *PATT: as typical today 1212015_1213400 I mean as topical today as it was then . 1213315_1215780 *PATT: &=in And then it has to deal 1215780_1217490 (.) with the big questions . 1217490_1219550 *PATT: (..) Uh the- +/. 1219170_1220170 *PATT: (.) of moral values 1220170_1221900 (.) and of w- (..) how you (..) ⌈ uh per⌉ceive &=in the world . 1221965_1226045 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1223955_1224780 *PATT: and all of this with it . 1226065_1227510 *PATT: &=in And I +/. 1227510_1228085 *PATT: there were some others . 1228085_1228990 *PATT: And I can't even remember what they all were . 1228990_1230620 *PATT: (.) ⌈ But I ⌉ +... 1230685_1231385 *DIAN: ⌊ I know 1230685_1230995 but it ⌋ was Evelyn who did it 1230995_1232130 and we ought to make her get her notes out again . 1232130_1233580 *DIAN: ⌈ Because sh- ⌉ +... 1233580_1234215 *PATT: ⌊ Yes ⌋ . 1233470_1234090 *X: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1234065_1235190 *PATT: ⌈2 If you can find &{l=X this &}l=X ⌉2 . 1234040_1235340 *LOIS: ⌊2 She probably re⌋2mem⌈3bers ⌉3 . 1234300_1235760 *MANY: ⌊2 &=LAUGHTER ⌋2 . 1234070_1235115 *JANI: ⌊3 Uh Ev⌋3⌈4elyn . 1235350_1235990 *EVEL: ⌊4 I don't remember ⌋4 . 1235745_1237300 *JANI: will you do that a⌉4gain &{l=@ some⌈5time &}l=@ . 1235990_1237660 *EVEL: ⌊5 Oh . 1237295_1237590 *JANI: &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉5 . 1237600_1239415 *EVEL: I will remember . 1237650_1238585 *EVEL: &{l=X I just ⌋5 I just &}l=X can't remember ⌈6 what it was ⌉6 . 1238585_1241375 *PATT: ⌊6 But I thought ⌋6 there were five 1240420_1242295 and I've only come up ⌈7 with ⌉7 ⌈8 four [% laugh] &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉8 . 1241955_1244215 *LIND: ⌊7 &=SNIFF ⌋7 1242995_1243420 ⌊8 Hm . 1243530_1244030 *NORA: ⌊8 &{l=X I thought &}l=X she had five ⌋8 . 1243535_1245425 *LIND: (.) Oh 1244055_1244420 I only heard ⌋8 three . 1244420_1245790 *LIND: (.) ⌈9 What was the ⌉9 +... 1245665_1246195 *NORA: ⌊9 &=tsk &{l=X let's &}l=X ⌋9 +... 1245790_1246515 *PATT: ⌊9 The ⌋9 +/. 1246100_1246555 *PATT: (..) &{l=X Well &}l=X the eternal truths 1246555_1248155 (..) at any time 1248155_1249625 (..) ⌈ on any level . 1249625_1250885 *LIND: ⌊ Oh eternal truths: . 1249700_1251595 *PATT: (.) Yeah . 1251130_1251625 *LIND: I missed the eternal truth ⌋ . 1251625_1253145 *PATT: &=in At any time 1251965_1252885 on ⌉ any level 1252890_1253790 and by any age . 1253790_1255010 *LORI: (..) M⌊hm ⌋ . 1255010_1256000 *EVEL: ⌊ Uh⌋: 1255655_1256315 well you didn't mention one thing 1256260_1257665 I thought it was very interesting 1257730_1259225 and I thought you all w- i- who are m:arried 1259225_1261590 would have picked up on it 1261590_1262675 the relation: betwee:n a man and a woman . 1262675_1265235 *EVEL: &=in I thought there was one phrase in there 1265235_1267690 the crystal +/. 1267765_1268930 *EVEL: (..) what was it . 1268930_1269940 *EVEL: The crystal: uh (..) shield . 1269940_1272720 *EVEL: that comes down 1272720_1273615 after 1273615_1274235 a couple is married . 1274235_1275995 *PATT: (..) ⌈ Oh . 1276540_1276965 *EVEL: ⌊ And I have realized ⌋ that . 1276680_1278560 *PATT: XXX ⌉ . 1276970_1277855 *EVEL: so many times ⌈2 with ⌉2 friends . 1278555_1280350 *LIND: ⌊2 Hm ⌋2 . 1279490_1279855 *EVEL: with whom I was very very intimate . 1280330_1283160 *EVEL: You know . 1283180_1283730 *EVEL: &=in And yet 1283730_1284645 (.) when they are married . 1284645_1286335 *MANY: (.) Hm⌈: ⌉ . 1286335_1286930 *EVEL: ⌊ there ⌋ is a conjugal +... 1286620_1288550 *LIND: (..) Mhm . 1288550_1290090 *EVEL: +, oneness 1289520_1290270 (..) that is uh: 1290270_1291820 (..) something that I ⌈ was never able ⌉ to penetrate . 1291820_1295205 *NORA: ⌊ &{l=X Stoods &}l=X ⌋ . 1293550_1294275 *PATT: M⌈2hm ⌉2 . 1295205_1295640 *LIND: ⌊2 M⌋2⌈3hm ⌉3 . 1295355_1296045 *DIAN: ⌊3 Mhm ⌋3 . 1295700_1296195 *LOIS: ⌊3 Hm ⌋3 . 1295815_1296195 *EVEL: ⌊3 And I ⌋3 thought that was an interesting phrase . 1296020_1298600 *LIND: ⌈4 Mhm ⌉4 . 1298020_1298625 *EVEL: ⌊4 &=in ⌋4 I also thought it was very interesting 1298565_1300640 her relation 1300640_1301485 with her husband . 1301485_1302400 *LIND: (..) Mhm . 1302425_1303445 *LIND: &=laugh . 1303455_1303720 *EVEL: Why she married him 1304385_1305550 I don't know 1305625_1306350 but . 1306350_1306685 *NORA: &=laugh . 1306685_1307110 *EVEL: (.) she was able to: see the good in &{l=X any &}l=X . 1306890_1310305 *EVEL: (..) As well as the ⌈ bad [% laugh] ⌉ . 1310340_1313795 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1313075_1313990 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ &=laugh . 1313225_1313915 *LIND: ⌈2 Hm ⌉2 . 1314210_1314570 *EVEL: ⌊2 and to ⌋2 ⌈3 live with it ⌉3 . 1314480_1315825 *SUE: ⌊2 And con⌋2⌊3tinue: ⌋3 ⌈4 to ⌉4 . 1314480_1315805 *LIND: ⌊4 Yeah ⌋4 . 1315495_1315980 *SUE: sort of 1315890_1316435 (..) ⌈ push at the ba:d ⌉ . 1316435_1318300 *KIM: ⌊ &=in You know 1317130_1317760 um ⌋ . 1317760_1318240 *SUE: and try to improve him . 1318320_1319925 *LIND: &=in ⌈ &=lengthened She ⌉ ⌈2 kept see- ⌉2 +... 1319925_1321350 *EVEL: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1319925_1320395 *DIAN: ⌊ Maybe it's ⌋ ⌊2 because she did it ⌋2 with open eyes . 1320010_1322560 *LIND: (.) ⌈3 Mhm yeah ⌉3 . 1322560_1323860 *KIM: ⌊3 &=in In the ⌋3 movie 1323275_1324325 (..) you see her 1324305_1325990 (..) looking out her window . 1325990_1328030 *PATT: &=SNIFF . 1328030_1328380 *KIM: (..) across the street 1328380_1330220 into the Wilsons' apartment . 1330220_1331825 *KIM: (..) &=in And they seem to be a happy 1331825_1334005 very happy congenial family . 1333960_1335925 *KIM: (..) They seem to have a lot of interaction &=in going on in that family . 1335870_1340665 *LIND: Mhm . 1340320_1340985 *KIM: I don't ⌈ know ⌉ . 1340985_1341595 *LIND: ⌊ &{l=X It's &}l=X ⌋ +... 1341190_1341770 *KIM: maybe there was something . 1341610_1342780 *LIND: That's ⌈ true ⌉ . 1342720_1343695 *KIM: ⌊ by the ⌋ fact that she 1343000_1344580 &=in she saw 1344580_1345460 uh 1345460_1345865 (..) a happy family 1345915_1348255 they talked and communicated 1348255_1349815 and laughed 1349815_1350645 and 1350660_1350915 &=in (..) had a good association with each other . 1350915_1354200 *KIM: (..) As she peeked out her window 1354200_1356485 (..) looking at this uh ⌈ family ⌉ . 1356485_1358190 *LIND: ⌊ That's a ⌋ good point . 1357550_1358550 *PATT: Well 1358375_1358625 ⌈ and ⌉ ⌈2 I ⌉2 think . 1358640_1359145 *LIND: ⌊ Yeah⌋⌊2: ⌋2 . 1358420_1359050 *LORI: ⌊2 But ⌋2 +... 1358615_1358960 *LIND: I think ⌈3 so ⌉3 . 1359035_1359940 *PATT: ⌊3 Ruth ⌋3 +/. 1359450_1360185 *PATT: (..) Miss- +/. 1360185_1360780 *PATT: (.) the first Missis Wilcox (.) thought highly of her husband . 1360780_1364330 *PATT: (..) and Margaret thought highly of her . 1364370_1366380 *MANY: Mhm . 1366380_1367180 *EVEL: And do you remember ⌈ when she ⌉ was going to (.) go down to: Howard's End with her ? 1367180_1371435 *LIND: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1367890_1368690 *EVEL: (..) And all of a sudden he appeared . 1371470_1373655 *EVEL: He ⌈ came back ⌉ . 1373595_1374520 *PATT: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1373775_1374395 *EVEL: &=in and Missis Wilcox said 1374495_1376550 (.) well I'm so glad to see you 1376550_1378130 and she walked away with her husband . 1378045_1379675 *PATT: ⌈ Hm ⌉ . 1379675_1380050 *LIND: ⌊ M⌋hm . 1379935_1380620 *LOIS: Well I think Janice is right . 1380620_1382285 *LOIS: (.) That he was charming 1382215_1383735 &=in and I'm forget +/. 1383365_1384605 *LOIS: I think we forget 1384605_1385710 (.) that we all have that innate need (..) to have a partner . 1385710_1389345 *LOIS: (..) ⌊ I mean ⌋ . 1389075_1390560 *EVEL: ⌊ Well ⌋ 1390160_1390565 (.) and 1390565_1391240 and a provider . 1391240_1392725 *EVEL: ⌈ Too ⌉ . 1392725_1393360 *LIND: ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 1392950_1393480 *EVEL: ⌈2 You ⌉2 ⌈3 know ⌉3 . 1393360_1393985 *PATT: ⌊2 M⌋2⌊3hm ⌋3 . 1393345_1394000 *LIND: ⌊3 Yeah ⌋3 . 1393630_1394200 *EVEL: he ⌈4 took care of every⌉4thing . 1393965_1395725 *LOIS: ⌊4 I mean 1393990_1394505 (.) we all ⌋4 +/. 1394520_1395080 *LOIS: &=in ⌈5 we ⌉5 all envy that oneness . 1395675_1398135 *LIND: ⌊5 Mhm ⌋5 . 1398040_1398425 *LIND: (..) ⌈6 Mhm ⌉6 . 1398235_1398580 *EVEL: ⌊6 M⌋6⌈7hm ⌉7 . 1398305_1398715 *DIAN: ⌊7 Mhm ⌋7 . 1398540_1399035 *LOIS: (.) And when you don't have it 1399035_1399980 you really envy it . 1399980_1401075 *EVEL: M⌈hm ⌉ . 1400810_1401335 *LIND: ⌊ M⌋hm . 1401005_1401585 *LOIS: (.) So 1401585_1402485 (..) I mean 1402485_1403635 that's a r- a stro:ng drawing point . 1403620_1405735 *LOIS: (.) We look over a lot of things 1405735_1407330 (.) I mean none of us would be married if we were married (.) perfect partners . 1407340_1410555 *EVEL: M⌈hm ⌉ . 1410285_1410935 *SUE: ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 1410550_1411235 *DIAN: ⌊ &=laugh &=lengthened ⌋ ⌈2 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉2 &=laugh ⌈3 &=laugh ⌉3 ⌈4 &=laugh ⌉4 . 1411065_1412910 *SUE: ⌊2 &{l=X &{l=@ definite- &}l=@ &}l=X ⌋2 . 1411110_1412115 *EVEL: ⌊3 M⌋3⌊4hm ⌋4 . 1412145_1412680 *X: ⌊4 &=in ⌋4 &{l=HI Yeah &}l=HI . 1412910_1413450 *DIAN: &=in ⌈5 Yeah ⌉5 . 1413450_1414580 *LOIS: ⌊5 ʔuh Or ⌋5 if they were looking for perfect +... 1414220_1416070 *X: Hm . 1415925_1416205 *LOIS: +, (..) ⌈6 in us ⌉6 . 1416190_1417200 *LIND: ⌊6 Mhm ⌋6 . 1416545_1417065 *MANY: Mhm . 1417280_1418015 *EVEL: (.) Well 1418015_1418570 we are h- +/. 1418550_1419080 *EVEL: we are all human . 1419080_1420085 *EVEL: &=in I thought that was the b- +/. 1420085_1421530 *EVEL: the thing about ⌈ Margaret ⌉ that I (.) could uh see . 1421535_1424000 *PATT: ⌊ &{l=X Ten minutes &}l=X ⌋ . 1422200_1422835 *EVEL: Well +/. 1424095_1424280 *EVEL: uh that's what I considered spiritual vision . 1424280_1427195 *LIND: Mhm . 1427155_1427695 *PATT: ⌈ M⌉⌈2hm ⌉2 . 1427375_1428140 *DIAN: ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ ⌊2 &=SNIFF ⌋2 . 1426900_1428000 *EVEL: ⌊2 That she ⌋2 could see (.) the (..) human qual⌈3ities ⌉3 . 1427675_1431020 *DIAN: ⌊3 Yeah ⌋3 . 1430380_1431015 *SUE: (..) Maybe that's one thing about the book 1431440_1433205 uh what (.) what Evelyn +/. 1433065_1434520 *SUE: &=in what uh Lois ⌈ said ⌉ . 1434520_1435880 *X: ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 1435380_1436080 *SUE: was that 1435825_1436450 &=in (.) you know 1436450_1437940 (..) it translates to everybody . 1437775_1440315 *SUE: Nobody's ⌈ husband is per⌉fect . 1440315_1442090 *X: ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 1440870_1441620 *EVEL: ⌈2 Mhm ⌉2 . 1442025_1442990 *SUE: ⌊2 y- n- or no ⌋2 +/. 1442070_1442935 *SUE: ⌈3 and nobody ⌉3 ⌈4 is perfect ⌉4 . 1442920_1444480 *DEBO: ⌊3 X⌋3⌊4: ⌋4 . 1442990_1444065 *PATT: ⌊4 Or no person ⌋4 . 1443445_1444260 *DEBO: ⌈5 &{l=X Mhm ⌉5 . 1444310_1444840 *PATT: ⌊5 Mhm ⌋5 . 1444485_1444965 *DEBO: ⌈6 Mhm &}l=X ⌉6 . 1444775_1445240 *SUE: ⌊6 No person is ⌋6 ⌈7 perfect ⌉7 . 1444775_1446075 *NORA: ⌊7 &{l=@ XXX ⌋7 ⌈8 XX &}l=@ &=in ⌉8 . 1445550_1447215 *SUE: ⌊8 And therefo:re ⌋8 . 1446080_1447305 *LIND: ⌊8 Mhm ⌋8 . 1446405_1447135 *SUE: ⌈9 &=in It's (.) real life ⌉9 . 1447450_1448910 *NORA: ⌊9 &{l=X Did you take a nap on the floor ⌋9 1447075_1449125 or . 1448820_1449255 *KIM: ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 1448940_1449430 *LOIS: ⌊ And that's ⌋ ⌈2 classic ⌉2 . 1448960_1450085 *NORA: ⌊2 Jump up and down &}l=X ⌋2 . 1449495_1450365 *SUE: ⌈3 Yeah &=laugh ⌉3 . 1450115_1450640 *MANY: ⌊3 &=LAUGHTER ⌋3 ⌈4 &=lengthened ⌉4 ⌈5 &=lengthened ⌉5 ⌈6 &=lengthened ⌉6 &=lengthened ⌈7 &=lengthened ⌉7 . 1450215_1452700 *LIND: ⌊4 That's ⌋4 ⌊5 right ⌋5 . 1450845_1451645 *ALIC: ⌊4 That's clas⌋4⌊5sic ⌋5 . 1450830_1451745 *X: ⌊5 That's a ⌋5 ⌊6 classic ⌋6 . 1452015_1452980 *SUE: ⌊7 every d- ⌋7 1452375_1452855 ⌈8 e- ⌉8 +... 1452855_1453105 *LIND: ⌊8 That's ⌋8 right . 1452785_1453820 *SUE: It's every era . 1453375_1454420 *LOIS: (.) &=laugh . 1454565_1454975 *DIAN: ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 1454835_1455155 *EVEL: ⌊ Mh⌋⌈2m ⌉2 . 1455125_1456010 *KIM: ⌊2 Before uh ⌋2 +... 1455255_1456155 *LIND: &=in . 1455940_1456165 *KIM: bef- before ⌈ we break ⌉ up today . 1456165_1457815 *LIND: ⌊ X ⌋ . 1456820_1457285 *KIM: whether it's now or ten minutes from now 1457820_1459990 &=in could you tell me ⌈ anything about the book for next month ⌉ . 1459835_1462420 *DEBO: ⌊ Or a half an hour 1460120_1461400 or an hour ⌋ . 1461395_1462430 @End