2.835 4.073 RANDY: ... (H) %= You know it's=, 4.073 6.874 .. it was really pretty straightforward this [morning]. 6.518 7.163 LANCE: [(H)] 7.163 7.927 RANDY: ... (H) .. And, 8.795 9.430 ... y- z- -- 9.910 11.740 ... I thought you did a good job all the way through. 12.220 14.307 ... I mean you were on [top of what you were] scanning, 12.832 13.059 LANCE: [Hm. 13.059 13.407 Thanks]. 13.846 14.209 (SNIFF) 15.229 15.630 RANDY: ... um, 15.766 17.120 LANCE: .. should've kept that one Horizon, 17.120 17.543 Fauker jet. 17.543 18.693 just t- keep em on the right. 19.298 20.220 RANDY: ... Why did you switch em. 20.493 20.954 LANCE: (H) Well, 21.892 22.164 ... % (Hx) 22.829 23.608 ... looking at something, 23.608 23.986 I would get -- 23.986 25.642 it didn't seem like I could get someone else out. 25.779 26.164 ... But, 26.678 27.238 (H) um, 27.586 28.032 ... a=nd, 28.032 29.439 .. part of it to provide a good service, 29.439 30.013 but then, 30.543 31.042 RANDY: ... Yeah. 31.874 32.320 ... (H) % Well, 32.320 32.993 % that- that- -- 32.993 34.717 I guess that's one reason the two eight's kind of -- 36.433 36.789 ... well, 36.796 38.158 two eight's kinda nice sometimes, 38.248 38.967 because, 40.366 41.281 ... %= .. % I mean when we're on ten, 41.281 43.338 all the departures seemed like they're going [out the] left. 42.717 43.118 LANCE: [(SNIFF)] 43.890 45.727 RANDY: (H) so you really want your arrivals on the right. 45.742 47.028 .. When you're landing two eight, 47.618 49.463 (H) .. then you can .. get departures off of, 49.463 50.816 almost [both] at any time. 49.780 50.128 LANCE: [(SNIFF)] 50.794 52.072 RANDY: So you [2always got a2] hole. 51.036 51.626 LANCE: [2N_yeah2]. 52.389 52.836 .. Yeah. 52.904 53.289 RANDY: .. So, 54.454 54.892 ... but uh, 54.892 56.813 don't feel bad about keeping Horizon on the right, 56.813 57.048 , 57.048 57.532 because, 57.622 57.985 LANCE: Mhm. 58.681 60.103 RANDY: ... (H) sure doesn't hurt them to taxi . 60.103 61.343 They're so used to having, 62.031 63.362 ... A number one service, 63.362 63.679 @=[@@@] 63.611 63.921 LANCE: [(TSK) (H) Yeah. 63.921 64.746 plus] when they're [2departing,g 64.473 65.494 RANDY: [2every one of em came2] -- 64.927 66.062 LANCE: .. they're right by2] the gate. 66.183 66.576 (H) Everyone- -- 66.576 66.939 even, 66.939 67.423 .. even one or- -- 67.355 68.247 one or two of em I said, 68.247 69.843 I'll advise if the left becomes available. 70.168 70.735 (H) [and they said w-, 70.274 70.667 RANDY: [and they -- 70.667 71.090 they still ask]. 70.742 71.340 LANCE: .. we'd like the] left, 71.340 72.572 if it <@ becomes [2available @> @@@@2]. 72.104 73.283 RANDY: [2@@@ (H)@2] 73.510 73.828 I know, 73.828 74.576 [they still] ask. 73.828 74.334 LANCE: [(SNIFF)] 74.599 76.119 RANDY: And Viking is the same way. 76.013 76.459 .. [(H)=] 76.308 76.769 LANCE: [Yeah]. 77.548 78.153 RANDY: ... So. 78.932 80.006 ... There's= sh= -- 80.006 82.214 there's sure nothing wrong with keeping em on the right though. 83.069 83.666 ... Um, 85.609 87.235 ... Traffic Watch Eight we discussed, 87.334 88.422 LANCE: (H) (TSK) So radar [service ter]minated, 87.825 88.029 RANDY: [um], 88.407 89.300 call me inbound, 89.617 90.048 ... or, 91.107 92.476 RANDY: .. (H) You wanna say . 96.015 96.521 ... Or, 97.285 100.045 ... (H) I I think that something a little 0ttle .. more like that's better, 100.045 101.528 than just saying radar service terminated, 101.528 101.966 because, 101.966 102.443 he's kinda -- 102.443 102.881 LANCE: (SNIFF) 103.335 104.038 RANDY: ... [Left hanging]. 103.335 104.046 LANCE: [Okay]. 104.711 105.535 RANDY: .. And you could just say, 105.634 106.534 ... radar service terminated, 106.534 107.464 report back inbound, 107.464 108.069 and then he'll -- 108.439 109.475 ... he'll either come back and say, 109.475 110.284 well I'm departing the area, 110.322 111.267 now back to Hillsborrow, 111.525 112.719 (H) Or I'll call you back inbound. 112.719 113.937 So that gives you an idea. 113.937 114.413 LANCE: .. Okay. 114.685 115.298 RANDY: ... But uh, 116.251 117.151 ... a=nd uh, 117.620 119.964 .. (H) ... %= Along with that, 120.591 121.779 ... Let TC, 121.975 123.291 .. do more of the work for you. 123.548 123.972 LANCE: .. @Okay. 125.045 125.560 RANDY: ... %you know, 126.044 126.558 ... Um, 126.671 128.138 .. just tell her what you want her to do. 128.123 128.524 LANCE: (SNIFF) 130.089 132.456 RANDY: (H) ... I was thinking of a .. couple ... instances, 132.456 134.286 where you could've used her more than you did. 135.239 136.003 LANCE: ... Okay. 136.139 137.825 (H) I was thinking that for my rundowns, 137.788 138.476 ... you know that would %, 138.476 138.793 .. that's -- 139.534 140.495 ... that would have been a help, 140.495 140.971 but, 140.971 142.521 (H) on the other s- the other hand, 142.733 143.451 BILL: ... I wanna get it on tape, 143.451 144.382 heck of a job ~Lance. 144.412 145.297 RANDY: [@@@@@@ @@@@ (H) @@@ (H) (H) 144.382 145.281 LANCE: [Oh thank you very much. 145.372 145.894 .. Did you hear that? 146.287 147.709 .. @@@@@@ (H) 147.732 148.299 um, 148.389 148.919 @@@@@@ (H)] 148.920 150.080 RANDY: (H) The problem with doing rundowns, 150.080 151.620 is that] it's kind of over in your face. 151.786 152.207 LANCE: .. Yeah 152.342 152.628 .. Yeah. 152.628 153.040 [So], 152.628 153.764 RANDY: [Cause the] D-light's kind of, 153.764 155.161 .. pretty far over to the left there, 155.161 155.750 but sh- you can, 155.750 156.920 you can have her do it if you want. 157.105 157.888 LANCE: .. (TSK) (H) Um, 158.107 158.620 (H) I would -- 158.848 161.415 ... I'm .. just .. working at, 162.004 164.840 ... doing as much .. of these other things as I possibly can, 166.069 167.677 ... Because they'll be times when I won't have a TC, 167.702 168.123 and just -- 168.535 170.227 ... just ... [challenging myself. 169.259 170.227 RANDY: [And that's okay. 170.227 170.589 (H)] 170.227 170.841 LANCE: (H)] Um, 170.841 171.675 what were some of the things, 171.675 172.180 other than -- 172.180 173.274 what- what were some of the things that, 173.459 175.142 (H) that I should have used [her for that I didn't. 174.999 175.420 RANDY: [(H) Depending on who your] -- 175.151 175.420 LANCE: (SNIFF)] 175.420 176.338 RANDY: Who your TC is, 176.338 177.777 if c- certain people sit down there, 177.777 178.122 they d- -- 178.223 179.990 they have a tendency to do everything for you. 180.201 181.404 (H) And sometimes that is p- -- 181.446 182.709 that is really pretty nice. 182.995 183.551 (H) If you just, 183.551 184.098 .. if you just, 184.241 185.470 .. all you have to do is stand up, 185.857 186.749 ... and look out the window, 186.749 187.515 and look at the bright. 187.515 188.256 .. and talk. 188.718 190.225 ... %= You- no other w- -- 190.225 191.353 no other coordination, 191.353 191.614 or, 191.614 192.531 .. or ARTS functions, 192.556 193.019 or anything, 193.440 194.930 (H) [That really is nice]. 193.440 194.341 LANCE: [(TSK) That's ideal]. 195.427 196.672 RANDY: ... [2It it really2] helps. 195.595 196.058 LANCE: [2Mhm2]. 196.880 197.720 RANDY: ... the situation. 197.905 198.305 LANCE: .. Mhm. 198.505 199.080 RANDY: .. So, 199.405 199.745 ... but, 200.590 201.290 ... %= Right now, 201.290 201.793 like you say, 201.793 203.625 maybe it is better for you to do [some of that] stuff. 202.809 203.143 LANCE: [(SNIFF)] 203.730 204.440 .. (TSK) um, 205.956 207.350 ... I don't think there was (Hx), 207.350 207.841 I mean I had, 209.139 210.778 ... just a couple that I switched to the left, 210.795 211.742 you know maybe three or so, 211.742 212.513 that I switched to the left, 212.505 213.057 uh p- -- 212.943 213.960 .. uh probably two or three, 214.591 215.415 .. (H) and so there was that, 215.415 216.993 I didn't have any ... ARTS entries, 216.993 217.484 I had, 218.071 218.308 ... you know, 218.308 219.903 Traffic Watch to slue out to, 219.859 220.631 RANDY: (YAWN) 220.631 221.227 LANCE: um, 221.691 223.550 RANDY: (YAWN) .. . 223.550 224.391 LANCE: For the most part, 224.795 225.566 ... I mean I was able to k- -- 225.566 227.205 I think I was able to keep up with that stuff, 227.205 227.819 RANDY: With the ARTS. 228.012 228.397 LANCE: .. Yeah. 228.397 228.678 I mean, 228.678 230.142 @@ there wasn't really nothing much to do. 230.563 231.115 [(H) um], 230.475 230.624 RANDY: [No, 230.624 231.054 there wasn't]. 232.745 233.271 LANCE: ... So, 233.666 234.376 RANDY: .. But there could be. 234.542 235.051 LANCE: .. Yeah. 234.875 236.120 RANDY: If there's VFRs departing, 236.033 236.471 or, 236.357 236.725 LANCE: .. Yeah. 236.725 239.355 I told her .. to do my ... VFR guys. 239.662 240.293 RANDY: .. 0h %Yeah. 240.293 241.038 LANCE: And um, 241.134 242.379 to write down my VFRs. 242.423 243.387 @ @@ (H) 243.387 245.035 @That's one thing I gotta kick myself to do. 245.780 246.227 RANDY: ... Yeah. 247.060 248.209 LANCE: ... Now are we still required to w- -- 248.209 248.568 write, 248.577 248.901 like, 248.901 251.189 the Empires that coming in through the gates VFR? 251.294 251.846 .. Don't they? 251.960 252.451 .. We are? 253.039 253.828 RANDY: ... [Any] VFR. 252.986 253.267 LANCE: [(h)] 253.915 254.915 (H) Now isn't that, 255.265 256.168 ... aren't they when they c- -- 258.009 258.956 ... But what if they've -- 259.447 261.708 ... c- well I guess we have no way of knowing if they've come in IFR, 261.708 262.848 and then cancelled VFR. 263.514 263.979 RANDY: ... Well yeah, 263.979 265.705 because they have a strip on it down[stairs]. 265.346 265.714 LANCE: [Mhm]. 265.714 265.925 RANDY: So. 266.836 267.318 ... %I don't -- 267.713 268.397 %= actually, 268.511 269.142 % I'm like you, 269.142 271.149 I don't really know what the point is of that. 272.508 274.252 ... Because we do have a record of em anyway. 274.875 275.331 ... [But], 274.866 275.331 LANCE: [Mhm]. 276.058 276.567 RANDY: ... % when the -- 276.567 277.163 when the -- 277.881 279.196 ... order came across or whatever, 279.196 280.450 memorandum that said, 280.450 281.984 to write down all VFR arrivals. 283.588 284.097 LANCE: ... (TSK) Okay. 284.298 284.693 RANDY: .. So, 284.693 285.657 if they're a VFR arrival, 285.657 286.814 you're supposed to write it down. 287.270 287.629 LANCE: ... Okay. 288.707 289.593 ...

. 289.593 290.092 RANDY: Unhunh. 290.522 292.494 .. (H) When Horizon one-thirty-eight didn't answer you there? 293.800 294.774 LANCE: ... (H) ... Go back to ground? 295.440 295.764 RANDY: ... [Yeah]. 295.484 296.798 LANCE: [or just] move on to something else. 296.798 298.017 RANDY: .. I mean you tried him a couple times. 298.017 298.937 You say Horizon one-thirty-eight, 298.937 299.612 XXXXX, 300.375 301.173 ... if they don't get the hint, 301.199 301.602 if he's -- 302.637 304.179 ... (H) but if you can't get him, 304.819 305.661 ... just go on. 305.661 307.011 and do something else that you can do. 307.011 308.475 .. United was calling ready to go. 308.475 308.922 LANCE: .. Yeah. 309.027 309.378 RANDY: So, 309.378 309.833 shoot. 310.210 311.236 ... just let United go. 311.639 312.192 ... Hori[zon], 311.937 312.192 LANCE: [Yeah], 312.192 312.998 RANDY: you can't do nothing with him, 312.998 314.015 so just have him hold there. 315.061 316.392 ... So just go on to the next. 316.392 316.929 LANCE: (TSK) Okay. 319.043 319.487 RANDY: ... Next thing, 319.487 320.491 and do tell ground. 321.274 322.733 ... He might be still on ground frequency, 322.733 323.259 which [is] -- 322.944 323.306 LANCE: [(SNIFF)] 324.509 325.314 RANDY: (H) ... uh, 325.478 326.611 .. usually not too likely, 326.611 327.265 because, 328.491 328.993 ... [you know], 328.491 329.343 LANCE: [At that] point. 329.343 329.822 RANDY: At that point, 329.799 330.558 [well he's] out there, 329.799 330.173 LANCE: [you know], 330.511 330.768 [2He's2] -- 330.511 331.516 RANDY: [2and he's2] probably sitting [3there3], 331.294 331.656 LANCE: [3(SNIFF)3] 331.586 333.092 RANDY: and th- he's not hearing anything, 334.424 335.334 ... (Hx) .. from the [tower] you know, 334.657 334.926 LANCE: [Yeah], 335.334 335.813 RANDY: he's probably, 335.883 337.612 ... looking at his radio about then, 338.161 340.310 .. (H) .. (Hx) 341.898 342.727 LANCE: ... (H) Yeah, 342.727 344.666 I think I was a little bit rigid in my planning of that, 344.666 345.214 cause I wanted to -- 345.214 345.868 had to plan, 347.725 349.150 ... to get him out at that point. 349.746 350.271 ... a=nd, 350.271 351.754 .. I should've been more flexible and, 355.550 356.554 RANDY: ... But uh, 356.554 357.267 you know (HX), 357.267 358.913 .. everything else I saw, 359.030 360.934 .. (H) you- your separation was, 361.074 362.148 .. was really good this morning. 362.148 363.515 I mean you really tightened em up. 363.923 367.100 .. Maybe a couple times almost a l=ittle bit [too @tigh=t. 365.955 367.030 LANCE: [<@ a little to tight @>. 367.030 368.349 @@@ (SNORT) @@@ (H) 367.030 368.349 RANDY: @@@@ 368.349 369.272 Cause uh], 369.272 370.370 (H) % -- 371.806 372.367 ... I don't know, 372.367 373.745 y- a couple times you had, 373.745 375.590 like one just barely at departure end, 375.590 376.548 a jet at departure, 376.548 378.031 and you cleared another jet for takeoff. 378.124 379.199 .. (H) And it worked out [great]. 379.105 379.456 LANCE: [(TSK) Oh]. 379.899 380.717 ... One guy out the right and then -- 380.717 381.067 oh th- -- 381.067 381.838 both guys out the [left. 381.640 382.527 RANDY: [Both guys out to the left]. 381.920 382.422 LANCE: (SNIFF)] 382.994 383.730 RANDY: (H) .. And it worked out good, 383.730 384.185 but, 384.314 386.276 ... % I think it worked out because, 388.343 388.985 ... (TSK) this guy, 388.985 389.814 was real slow, 389.814 391.811 on .. on .. starting his departure roll. 392.477 393.049 .. (H) .. You know, 392.991 393.458 LANCE: [Mhm]. 392.991 395.607 RANDY: [usually] you gotta get em just a little bit off the departure end. 396.751 398.235 ... before you clear the next guy. 398.492 399.835 (H) And watch out for the uh, 399.986 401.750 .. the seven-th=irty-seven, 402.556 403.583 ... four-[hundreds], 402.929 403.583 LANCE: [Four-hundreds], 403.747 404.564 ... [2Okay]. 403.747 404.704 RANDY: [2Or three2]-hundreds and, 404.704 404.973 [3(H)3] 404.973 405.522 LANCE: [3Okay3]. 406.012 407.064 RANDY: ... Because uh %=, 407.659 408.547 ... they'll really climb. 408.547 409.691 And they can go fast, 409.691 410.123 too. 410.123 410.637 LANCE: .. Okay. 411.046 411.431 RANDY: ... So, 411.431 411.863 .. well you know, 411.863 413.592 just take into consideration the type of aircrafts. 413.592 415.647 It takes the seven-twenty-seven a little b- while to get wound up, 415.647 417.341 while the seven-thirty-seven'll really go. 419.139 419.700 ... But uh, 419.700 420.225 .. % -- 420.225 421.159 I mean it was really good. 421.370 422.502 ... Good departure separation. 423.075 423.437 LANCE: ... Thanks. 424.079 425.200 RANDY: .. I was impressed. 426.461 427.104 ... A=nd, 427.104 427.746 you saw=, 427.746 429.147 a little bit about the two-sixty? 429.930 430.339 ... Heading? 430.339 431.588 % Listen to the readbacks for -- 431.588 432.324 LANCE: (H) Yeah. 433.422 435.033 RANDY: .. (H) ... If I know he's at two-thirty. 436.084 437.287 ... But you can wrap em around, 437.287 438.479 to one-thirty or one-sixty, 438.479 439.273 to avoid the MBA, 439.273 440.020 and that works great, 440.020 440.429 because=, 440.429 441.643 otherwise you got two-sixty? 442.076 443.150 (H) There was that one time you had -- 445.509 447.401 ... two= south plan aircraft, 447.401 449.456 and one ... westbound- -- 449.456 449.678 or, 449.678 450.215 , 450.215 451.313 [metro] and, 450.297 450.718 LANCE: [Mhm]. 451.383 451.792 RANDY: (H)= 451.792 452.680 LANCE: Mhm. 452.948 453.590 RANDY: ... I d- -- 453.590 454.887 I actually didn't think, 455.389 457.269 ... you were gonna have three miles between the two first, 458.624 458.963 LANCE: ... [Mhm]. 458.822 459.546 RANDY: [south] , 459.546 460.271 but you did. 461.310 462.022 ... That was perfect. 462.466 463.926 LANCE: ... The one that I kept on runway heading for [a bit? 463.681 464.136 RANDY: [Yeah]. 463.926 464.218 LANCE: or], 464.253 464.767 RANDY: .. [2Yeah2]. 464.405 464.942 LANCE: [2Okay2]. 466.986 467.838 RANDY: ... And that was good, 467.838 468.948 .. it was real good planning, 468.948 470.664 to keep that one Caravan on runway heading, 470.664 472.264 when you had the other one going two-sixty? 473.631 475.161 ... To ensure that you had, 475.628 477.064 ... oh and you had the one going two-forty. 476.959 477.298 LANCE: (H) 477.671 478.104 RANDY: .. or some[thing, 477.998 478.279 LANCE: [(Hx)] 478.279 479.447 RANDY: and then you had the] Metro going s=- -- 479.447 480.579 .. going two-sixty. 480.895 481.409 LANCE: ... [Yeah]. 480.895 482.004 RANDY: [But you kept] the Metro on, 482.004 482.973 runway heading. 483.452 484.492 ... Which is really good planning. 487.540 488.567 ... So, 494.115 495.131 LANCE: ... (TSK) (H) I'm -- 495.271 496.018 ... I'm -- 497.665 500.550 ... less and less ... impacted. 500.643 501.741 .. For lack of a better word. 502.698 503.329 ... by, 504.789 505.244 ... these g- -- 505.244 505.957 for some reason, 505.957 506.809 with all these, 506.809 507.358 .. um, 507.627 508.117 .. I think, 508.468 510.067 ... the bulk of .. my planning, 510.535 512.508 ... seems to revolve around these little guys, 512.508 513.314 .. when I can turn em, 513.314 514.634 fitting em in with all my other guys, 514.634 515.054 for some reason, 515.054 515.475 I mean y-, 515.603 516.304 (H) and that is, 516.421 516.969 ... you know, 517.133 517.834 .. those guys, 518.721 520.520 ... having a very fec- affective part, 520.520 521.711 .. in the whole fan, 521.734 522.972 .. of all our departures. 523.299 524.163 ... And um, 524.619 524.876 RANDY: .. Hm. 524.946 525.763 LANCE: .. I think they're, 527.013 529.664 ... they're a- .. affecting me less than they did in the past. 529.862 530.295 RANDY: .. [Yeah]. 529.862 530.703 LANCE: [Does that] make sense? 530.820 531.170 RANDY: [2Yeah2]. 531.042 531.778 LANCE: [2(H)2] <@ Do you know what I mean @>? 532.093 532.782 (H) Um, 534.440 534.756 ... cause i- -- 534.756 535.585 there was a time where, 535.585 537.091 .. I mean that sequence was good too. 537.220 538.808 (H) but there was a time when, 539.439 539.964 ... yeah an 0- -- 539.964 541.132 it it may happen again. 541.366 541.716 RANDY: .. Yeah. 541.716 542.031 LANCE: -- 542.031 542.580 where I've got, 542.662 543.795 .. the little West Coasts in here, 543.760 545.126 and all these guys off the right and left, 545.488 547.333 ... where am I actually gonna fit these guys in, 547.333 548.092 and they're all calling, 548.092 549.038 they're ready way early. 549.762 550.288 ... And, 550.849 551.888 RANDY: ... Well the sequence, 552.238 552.892 (H) uh, 552.892 553.792 can't be too bad. 553.850 554.364 .. When you got -- 554.364 555.905 when you can feed [from charley], 555.286 555.847 LANCE: [(H) XX] 556.127 556.910 RANDY: (H) and from bravo, 556.956 557.727 and from alpha. 558.697 559.257 ... You know %, 559.257 560.250 the sequence can't be too bad, 560.250 561.102 I mean all [he did], 560.799 561.838 LANCE: [You got some]thing you can do. 561.838 562.364 RANDY: Yeah. 562.469 563.835 ... All he did is send em all out. 563.835 565.832 I mean [you got all the] West Coasts in the row over on charley, 564.150 564.396 LANCE: [@@] 565.739 567.187 RANDY: you got the jets in a row on bravo, 567.187 568.717 and you got n- various things over here. 569.225 569.600 (H) So, 569.820 570.825 .. you can pick and choose. 572.615 572.985 ... You know, 573.045 573.245 .. y- -- 573.280 574.140 I mean as a ground control, 574.140 575.220 you can just send em all out there, 575.220 575.490 and then, 575.945 576.445 (H) when they get there, 576.445 577.760 then you can start arranging the strips. 577.720 578.020 @= @[@] 578.095 578.680 LANCE: [@]@ 578.670 578.935 RANDY: You know, 578.935 579.315 the way you want, 579.315 579.810 almost. 579.810 580.170 LANCE: [Yeah]. 579.840 580.200 RANDY: [(H)] 580.510 580.785 .. You know th-, 580.785 581.155 [that's], 580.785 581.180 LANCE: [Yeah]. 581.255 581.460 RANDY: that, 581.460 582.035 it works great. 582.350 582.745 ... [That way]. 582.350 584.315 LANCE: [Because you] don't have to sequence em at some other point, 584.315 585.260 in their taxi route, 585.260 585.805 [you know], 585.260 585.770 RANDY: [Yeah]. 587.125 587.390 LANCE: ... They're b- -- 587.560 587.805 .. they -- 587.940 588.200 .. 0.000000e+00 -- 588.390 590.450 .. essentially on their own ... taxiway, 590.450 590.825 up through -- 590.825 591.955 up to the .. approach end. 591.955 592.285 .. So, 595.270 598.670 RANDY: ... (YAWN) . 600.915 601.470 ... that I -- 601.970 602.290 ... you know, 602.290 602.770 that I had. 602.770 603.065 I mean, 603.065 604.550 I was paying pretty close attention there, 604.550 606.225 and I didn't .. really see much of a problem. 607.130 607.430 LANCE: ... Oh. 607.485 607.995 [Thanks]. 607.505 608.795 RANDY: [N=o] significant problems. 609.440 609.805 ... XX 609.885 610.620 ... to talk about. 612.895 613.160 LANCE: ... I'm [glad]. 613.115 613.825 RANDY: [See there] was, 615.860 616.145 ... S- -- 616.430 617.240 .. (H) Oh um, 617.710 618.430 .. don't always, 620.095 620.570 %= ... um, 621.560 623.205 ... don't insist on always saying, 623.615 624.390 ... seven hundred. 624.390 625.080 If you say -- 627.535 627.820 LANCE: ... (H) [Oh, 627.535 628.205 RANDY: [Why hadn't you] -- 627.830 629.320 LANCE: at some] point after he is leaving seven, 629.320 630.805 just wait till he is leaving seven hundred you [2mean2]? 630.660 631.670 RANDY: [2Some2]times you can [3do that3]. 631.245 631.625 LANCE: [3Yeah3]. 631.725 632.065 RANDY: Yeah. 632.065 632.725 There was a couple times, 632.725 633.960 you didn't need to say it when, 634.120 634.865 .. when you did. 635.070 635.620 LANCE: It was out in the -- 635.720 636.010 yeah. 636.010 636.335 RANDY: Yeah. 636.630 637.200 .. Well I mean [y- w- -- 637.070 638.355 LANCE: [Could've either waited] just a bit, 637.400 637.710 RANDY: it was at] -- 638.345 639.765 [2He was at a five2]-hundred climb and, 638.345 638.560 LANCE: [2Or, 638.560 638.930 he was a-2] -- 640.480 641.325 RANDY: ... just go ahead and say, 641.325 642.680 turn left heading one six zero. 644.150 644.520 ... [Okay]. 644.150 645.545 RANDY: [Or turn] left heading two six zero. 645.615 646.015 For a Metro. 646.015 647.470 I mean if you leave em on runway heading, 647.975 648.740 (H) for a little bit, 648.740 649.055 LANCE: Mhm. 649.055 650.740 RANDY: they're gonna be at the altitude you need so, 652.945 653.940 ... but that's no big deal. 657.835 658.625 ... A=nd uh, 658.625 659.905 I was watching Jet Speed come in, 660.320 662.020 ... and you got Delta out in front of Jet Speed. 662.410 662.690 LANCE: .. Mhm. 663.195 664.660 RANDY: ... It seemed like you were a little tense with that but, 665.830 667.855 (H) really pay attention to the speeds when they're coming in. 667.855 669.965 He was doing a hundred and twenty outside of Laker there. 670.210 670.830 ... Did you see that? 670.840 671.110 LANCE: Yeah. 671.375 671.745 RANDY: .. Yeah. 671.890 672.360 LANCE: .. So that -- 672.360 673.235 .. [that worked out great]. 672.360 673.235 RANDY: [I wondered if you'd saw-] -- 673.235 673.620 Yeah. 673.620 674.840 I mean there was lots of room. 675.405 675.935 ... Lots of [time. 675.770 676.040 LANCE: [Mhm]. 676.040 676.415 RANDY: He] wasn't, 676.415 677.845 he z- wasn't flying as a normal, 677.930 678.230 LANCE: Mhm. 678.450 679.015 RANDY: .. For some reason, 679.015 679.720 he just used the -- 680.015 680.255 LANCE: Mhm. 680.255 681.025 RANDY: Or is it uh, 681.055 681.900 Exec Jet. 682.120 684.055 ... One of those guys is usually really fast. 684.470 686.540 LANCE: .. (H) Jet Speed [is th- I know fast on the] pr- departure, 684.920 685.485 RANDY: [AM-Flight]. 686.505 687.030 LANCE: it seems. 687.185 687.620 RANDY: .. Yeah. 688.095 688.840 LANCE: ... % I think. 689.060 690.305 .. It .. seems like that was the one, 690.305 690.520 but, 690.520 691.125 yeah AM-Flight, 691.125 692.030 when they fly the later jet. 693.220 693.530 (H) Um, 693.530 693.880 yeah. 693.880 695.670 And I think I might have said for delta niners or to, 695.670 696.105 no delay, 696.105 697.105 or some[thing like that and], 696.355 696.580 RANDY: [Yeah. 696.580 697.050 I think you did]. 697.110 697.565 LANCE: @@@ 698.605 699.785 ... And he was actually floating at -- 699.785 700.755 % the Jet Speed wasn't -- 701.345 701.675 ... yeah. 701.675 701.905 RANDY: Yeah, 701.905 702.605 you had a lot of time. 702.735 702.950 LANCE: Yeah. 706.900 708.950 RANDY: ... When the Twins ... get airborne, 708.950 709.840 you got a jet , 709.840 711.355 the twin- twin's gonna go southwestbound? 713.420 714.780 ... (H) If you got six-thousand feet, 714.780 716.565 and the twin's climbing out of four or five hundred, 716.810 718.055 ... you can start your transmission, 718.055 718.705 then to the, 718.975 719.610 .. to the jet. 719.755 720.175 LANCE: .. Okay. 720.175 721.265 RANDY: . 724.980 725.790 It says in sight, 726.070 726.490 .. (H) 726.775 728.375 LANCE: .. Just sure he gets his turn in? 728.610 729.050 RANDY: .. Mhm. 729.490 729.805 .. [(H)] 729.445 729.805 LANCE: [Okay]. 729.915 731.350 RANDY: The Caravan's coming across, 731.695 732.620 ... if you wanna get (Hx) -- 733.080 733.730 LANCE: (H) Yeah what do you say. 733.730 734.695 Cause I've heard different phraseology, 734.695 736.295 and I af- .. feel like I was stumbling over that, 736.295 736.995 I think I said it-, 737.165 738.245 .. couple different ways. 738.990 739.830 RANDY: ... A mile west, 739.830 740.070 or something -- 740.070 741.170 I'll- I just say, 742.735 744.460 (H) ... %= you know on a day like this, 744.460 745.320 it's so easy to see em, 745.320 746.840 I would just say the Caravan ahead, 747.605 748.610 ... is southwestbound. 748.755 749.330 .. . 750.075 750.945 ... And and they'll, 750.945 752.415 .. a lot of times they'll say uh in sight. 753.355 754.245 ... If they don't say in sight, 754.435 755.005 ... they'll say, 756.285 756.715 ... %= they'll (Hx), 756.745 758.075 I would assume they have em in sight, 758.070 759.005 because they won't go. 759.835 760.235 LANCE: ... Mhm. 760.235 761.005 RANDY: Unless they seem em. 761.005 761.910 I mean that's important to them, 761.910 762.615 to see the traffic. 764.065 764.750 ... but it's safe, 764.805 765.955 it's a safe operation. 766.665 767.075 (H) Because, 768.265 768.950 ... 0ne thing, 768.950 769.835 (Hx) you could do, 769.825 772.080 is is turn the .. Caravan to two-forty. 772.150 773.325 (H) 773.325 773.730 LANCE: ... Mhm. 773.965 774.895 RANDY: To get him across. 774.900 775.375 And then, 775.895 776.555 ... just before you ship em, 776.555 778.785 send em back to two-fifty XX something like that. 779.185 779.555 LANCE: ... Hm. 779.815 780.190 @@@ 780.090 780.415 RANDY: (SNIFF) 785.000 786.840 ... Cause the track's what im- .. what's important. 788.310 788.580 ... But, 788.675 790.260 .. but two-fifty was working out fine today. 793.725 794.785 ... Fifteen degrees and a mile. 796.360 797.235 ... Is what you need so, 799.740 800.330 ... or less. 800.330 801.050 .. using visual. 803.480 803.760 LANCE: ... Yeah, 803.760 804.455 In fact it was a, 805.615 806.600 ... Was the West Coast that - 807.305 810.160 ... was it the Horizon who said he could .. do the visual with the Twin Cesna ahead, 810.150 811.085 or was it vice versa, 811.085 811.735 one of the two. 812.005 813.455 >ENV: .. ((PHONE_RING)) 813.620 814.035 RANDY: Yeah. 814.035 814.985 LANCE: And at that point I said, 815.090 815.815 .. don't need it now. 815.815 816.105 @@ 817.700 818.100 ... They got it. 819.535 820.205 RANDY: ... Somebody in there? 820.205 820.940 LANCE: I think #Laura went in there, 820.765 821.080 yeah. 826.005 826.325 BILL: ... Comm, 826.665 827.470 ... line for you. 828.005 829.250 XXX have a call on the other line. 829.440 829.965 RANDY: .. This is ~Randy. 832.170 832.570 ... Okay. 832.840 833.195 .. M_bye.