1.150 2.860 JEFF: (TSK) (H) ... We often meditate, 2.860 3.390 I think, 3.390 4.590 on the love of Christ, 4.590 6.365 and there are many ways to do it, 6.365 9.230 ... and those who have meditated on the love of Christ, 9.230 10.520 have often done so, 10.520 12.300 in terms of the cross itself, 12.300 15.210 (H) have imagined again and afresh=, 15.210 15.610 .. uh=, 15.610 17.310 .. his uh bleeding wounds, 17.310 19.685 uh see him as he died on the cross, 19.685 21.090 (H)= but, 21.090 22.050 AUD: (NOSE_BLOW) 22.050 23.605 JEFF: ... wherever we turn. 23.605 26.845 .. (TSK) (H) uh in .. considering the love of Christ. 26.845 29.265 we turn always to the Gospel records, 29.265 29.845 don't we. 29.845 31.880 We we turn to the Word of God. 31.880 33.660 .. We turn to the real Jesus, 33.660 34.949 as he's described. 34.949 36.704 (H)= .. And uh, 37.137 42.212 ... (H) [There- .. there] is where .. our .. meditation always centers. 37.948 38.901 AUD: [(COUGH) (COUGH)] 42.212 44.437 JEFF: (Hx) That .. we might know him, 44.437 47.878 (H) and uh see= the wonder (H) of his love. 47.878 50.809 ... (TSK) (H) And not only hear him as he cries, 50.809 52.379 why have you forsaken me, 52.379 53.785 (H) but uh, 53.785 54.871 see him also, 54.871 56.475 in his .. seeking love, 56.475 58.258 (H) as the risen Lord. 59.253 61.291 ... (H) Uh see him uh, 61.291 63.105 ... with that fish breakfast (Hx), 63.105 64.866 by the Lake of Galilee. 65.445 68.973 ... (H) (SWALLOW) ... Broiling fish. 69.804 71.153 ... (H) Don't you like that? 72.262 73.755 ... (H) You know he had that uh, 73.755 76.148 @ (H) .. he had that breakfast all cooking. 76.148 79.768 @@@ (H) .. While the disciples were still out in the boat. 79.768 82.161 @ ... And then uh, 82.161 84.634 .. of course he has a special interview with Peter. 85.160 86.784 ... Not the first time he'd seen him, 86.784 88.914 he made a special resurrection appearance, 88.914 89.634 uh .. to Peter. 90.099 91.116 ... (H) But uh, 91.116 92.114 there in the morning, 92.114 93.025 early morning, 93.025 94.412 in the Lake of Galilee. 95.163 97.358 ... And there are cocks crowing in the distance. 98.196 100.863 ... (TSK) (H) And Jesus says to Peter, 100.863 102.304 ... (H) do you love me, 102.304 103.390 more than these? 104.518 105.630 ... (TSK) Simon, 105.630 106.495 .. son of Jonah, 106.495 107.311 .. do you love me, 107.311 108.195 .. more than these. 108.195 110.904 (H) ... Three times the question. 110.904 111.769 AUD: (THROAT) 112.158 113.221 JEFF: ... (TSK) (H) Because, 113.221 113.872 you see, 114.097 116.749 ... (H) as uh ... <@ we were saying a bit ago @>, 116.749 118.807 .. the love and the service go together. 118.807 119.321 Don't they. 119.321 122.796 @ (H)= If Peter is to be restored in service, 122.796 124.629 ... he has to be restored in love. 125.403 127.354 ... (TSK) (H) And when .. Peter says, 127.354 127.628 uh, 127.628 128.474 I love you, 128.474 130.071 then Jesus says, 130.071 130.429 .. uh, 130.917 132.022 ... feed my sheep, 132.022 133.157 .. tend my lambs, 133.157 134.521 .. care for my little ones. 137.086 137.516 ... We -- 137.516 139.067 .. we can't love others, 139.067 140.508 .. in the name of Christ, 141.133 144.699 ... unless .. the love for others is a .. overflow, 144.699 146.871 .. of our love .. for the Lord himself. 149.138 150.941 ... The people that we're called to love, 150.941 152.602 are .. unfortunately, 152.785 153.837 .. (H) .. not, 153.837 154.256 .. uh, 154.256 156.165 .. warrantably lovable. 156.839 159.408 ... (H) (Hx) % We uh, 159.408 162.300 (Hx) (H) (Hx) .. (H) % The source of our love , 162.300 164.948 .. is .. not how appealing they @are, 166.484 167.132 ... although, 167.132 169.345 we can praise God for his image in them, 169.345 173.503 and rejoice in the many , 173.503 173.796 .. but, 173.796 175.027 (H) nevertheless, 175.358 176.410 ... uh basically, 176.410 178.045 the .. the fountain of our love, 178.045 179.565 (H) i- is uh, 179.565 181.421 .. the seeking love of the savior. 182.008 184.176 ... (H) The self-denying love. 184.176 186.900 ... That is uh willing to serve .. in his name. 186.900 188.402 .. (H) Do you love me. 189.248 191.538 ... (TSK) (H) ... You know, 191.538 194.552 %= Jesus didn't ask Peter those questions, 194.845 198.096 ... to ... undercut .. his .. love, 198.172 199.391 ... or his faith. 199.391 203.164 ... (H) He asked those questions .. to establish it. 204.154 206.570 ... (TSK) (H) And uh Jesus does the same with you, 206.570 207.923 my friend (Hx), 207.923 208.761 ... he does the same. 210.693 211.653 ... He does ask you, 211.653 212.454 this morning, 212.454 213.528 .. do you love me. 213.528 214.949 .. Do you really love me. 217.102 218.398 ... But he asks it, 218.398 221.431 .. in order that you'll be able to say at last with Peter, 221.431 221.824 Lord, 221.824 223.401 .. you know= @everything. 223.401 225.116 (H) <@ You know my heart. 225.116 227.772 (H) .. And Lord you know that in spite of everything @>, 227.772 229.772 (H) yes .. Lord I do love you. 230.809 232.687 ... (H)= Well, 232.687 235.023 ... the saving love of uh .. the Father, 235.023 236.107 (Hx) and the Son, 236.107 238.432 .. is also the saving love of the Spirit. 238.432 241.022 .. and that's why I read that section from Romans eight. 241.332 242.335 ... (H) Uh you see, 242.335 246.293 God's .. love .. is .. is present .. in the Spirit. 246.849 251.810 ... (TSK) (H) ... (TSK) (H) % There there's a wonderful theology of the Spirit, 251.810 252.604 in uh, 252.604 253.962 .. in the Scriptures. 253.962 256.256 0.000000E+00specially of course in the New Testament, 256.256 257.328 .. (H) Um, 257.328 259.047 .. (TSK)(H) Bultmann, 259.047 262.403 in his uh commentary on uh Romans eight, 262.589 263.346 ...uh, 263.346 264.331 % talks about, 264.331 264.650 uh, 264.650 268.636 the two ways .. in which the Spirit .. i- is spoken of. 268.636 270.172 ... (H) And uh, 270.172 275.069 0h he unfortunately uses anthropological terms to describe it, 275.069 275.763 (H) uh, 275.763 277.368 he talks about uh, 277.368 279.821 (H) the the the Spirit in uh, 279.821 281.800 (H) the sense of mana, 281.800 284.016 .. as in uh (H) animism, 284.016 284.868 where the spirit, 284.868 286.551 .. you have a spirit of of a tree, 286.551 288.206 or a .. a stone, 288.206 289.159 or something like that, 289.159 292.925 (H) and then you have the more personal concept of the Spirit. 292.925 293.910 uh (H) uh, 293.910 297.412 both an impersonal and a personal concept of the Spirit. 297.412 298.429 (H) Now, 298.429 300.905 .. I d- I don't care for his analogy, 300.905 302.975 but uh the point is well taken. 302.975 303.750 .. (H) Uh, 303.750 306.791 the point is that Paul does speak of the Spirit, 306.791 308.264 both as possessor, 308.264 309.860 (H) and as possessed. 309.860 311.018 ... (H) You see, 311.018 312.938 the Spirit possesses us. 312.938 313.686 .. (H) Uh, 313.686 314.639 as Christians, 314.639 316.581 .. we are not demon possessed, 316.581 319.053 .. we are Holy Spirit possessed. 319.053 320.316 .. (H) And uh, 320.316 322.404 .. (H) Holy Spirit possession, 322.404 326.189 (H) has a .. close relationship to demon possession. 326.189 327.123 .. (H) uh, 327.123 330.292 the close relationship is what makes it so different. 330.292 331.797 .. (H) % You see, 331.797 335.039 uh demon possession is always destructive, 335.039 337.583 (H) because uh Satan can't create. 337.583 341.012 @ (H) And the demon-possessed man in Gadare? 341.012 341.710 Remember? 341.710 343.958 (Hx) (H) uh he couldn't even give his na=me. 343.958 346.251 When Jesus asked him what his name was. 346.251 347.528 (Hx) (H) Uh he- -- 347.528 349.502 His personality was destroyed. 349.502 351.946 You know how C S Lewis has done that in his uh, 351.946 353.519 (H) uh adult novels. 353.519 353.775 Uh, 353.775 354.979 (H) uh but uh, 354.979 355.863 there it is. 355.863 360.031 %= S- 0emon possession is personality destructive. 360.031 361.754 It depersonalizes, 361.754 364.486 because uh (H) Satan can only corrode, 364.486 365.603 he can't create. 365.603 366.861 He can only destroy. 366.861 367.682 .. (H) But, 367.682 369.748 Holy Spirit <> of chaos, 380.878 383.322 the Holy Spirit is the one who orders, 383.322 386.131 (H) the Holy Spirit is the one who frees, 386.131 387.161 uh liberates, 387.161 388.143 (H) uh the- -- 388.143 392.196 (H) uh the- the- the- Gadarene demoniac thought he was free, 392.196 393.772 because nobody could tie him up, 393.772 394.276 [you see, 394.420 394.805 AUD: [(THROAT)] 394.276 395.443 JEFF: he could go] anywhere, 395.443 396.337 do anything, 396.337 397.769 uh absolute freedom. 397.769 398.227 Right? 398.227 400.717 (H) %= and he could treat people -- 400.717 403.377 he hi- he didn't have to dress any particular way, 403.377 404.319 .. no dress code, 404.319 406.140 (H) and so he stripped it all off. 406.140 407.184 And the he uh, 407.184 409.947 (H) he could uh d- treat people any way he wanted to, 409.947 411.243 so whenever they came by, 411.243 411.987 he beat them up. 411.987 412.669 .. And [uh, 412.301 413.181 AUD: [(COUGH) (COUGH)] 412.669 414.013 JEFF: (H) %] and uh then, 414.013 415.726 if there was nobody handy to beat up, 415.726 416.872 he picked up a stone, 416.872 418.850 and uh tore his own flesh apart. 418.850 420.910 (H) @@ There's demonic liberty. 420.910 422.486 (Hx) (H) But uh, 422.486 425.086 Holy Spirit liberty= doesn't work that way. 425.086 425.447 @See. 425.447 426.450 (H) Uh, 426.450 427.767 .. uh now 0m, 427.767 431.069 .. you'll accuse me of thinking uh of Holy Spirit liberty, 431.069 433.443 in too strictly Presbyterian terms, 433.443 434.227 .. because [uh, 433.832 434.596 AUD: [@@@] 434.227 435.490 JEFF: (H)] I remind you, 435.490 436.465 that that man, 436.465 437.850 once he was delivered, 437.850 439.010 was seated clothed, 439.010 440.327 and in his right mind. 440.190 446.432 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 440.190 446.200 JEFF: [Uh and ... (THROAT)(SNIFF) ... (THROAT) (H) (H) %] 446.200 450.007 (H) And we'll pass over other uh uh Scriptural ac[2counts2], 449.332 449.960 AUD: [2(COUGH)2] 450.007 451.481 JEFF: like the lame man healed, 451.481 453.180 by the Beautiful Gate at the temple, 453.180 456.093 who went in leaping and dancing and praising the Lord. 456.093 459.886 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 456.093 456.591 JEFF: [See that, 456.591 458.228 (H) uh that's a little different, 458.228 460.507 but @@ (COUGH) .. (COUGH) (COUGh)] 460.507 464.839 (H) But uh %= you Presbyterians want to do everything decently and in order. 464.839 465.903 @@ (H) Uh but, 465.903 467.008 but the Holy Spirit, 467.008 467.574 remember, 467.574 468.864 is the spirit of both. 468.864 469.471 .. Right? 469.471 471.027 He's the spirit of order, 471.027 472.343 he's the spirit of ardor. 472.343 474.697 @ (H) And- and the Holy Spirit, 474.697 476.450 uh uh 0s the one, 476.450 478.006 .. (H) uh who has uh, 478.006 479.479 ... (H) ordered our lives. 479.479 481.083 And as he possesses us. 481.083 482.215 He orders us. 482.215 485.155 And he gives us the order of love. 485.954 487.147 ... If you love me, 487.147 487.993 Jesus said, 487.993 489.406 keep my commandments. 489.406 491.834 Uh I .. wanna say a little bit more about that in a moment. 491.834 493.342 (H) The obedience of love. 493.342 496.787 (H) But the Holy Spirit is the one who orders our lives, 496.787 497.545 ... (H) uh, 497.545 499.543 ontrols our lives, 499.543 501.611 .. is in possession of our lives, 501.611 504.387 (H) but the Holy Spirit's also given to us, 504.387 504.578 see, 504.578 507.055 he's not only (H) the possessor, 507.055 509.975 (H) he's also the one .. who is possessed. 509.975 511.237 .. We possess him. 511.237 513.358 .. (H) He dwells in our hearts. 513.358 513.836 (H) Uh, 513.836 516.347 we have not only the gifts of the Spirit, 516.347 517.104 in the plural, 517.104 519.164 (H) but we have the gift of the Spirit 519.164 520.999 .. We have the Holy Spirit himself, 520.999 521.845 given to us. 521.845 523.285 .. The promise of the Father. 523.285 525.557 .. (H) Uh they- the disciples were to wait, 525.557 528.019 .. until that great promise was given, 528.019 529.432 the gift of the Holy Spirit. 529.432 532.836 .. (H) And so .. the Holy Spirit given to us, 532.836 533.859 (H) uh f- -- 533.859 535.210 works in us. 535.210 535.599 Uh, 535.599 538.969 .. (H) that ... sense of the presence of God's love. 538.969 540.840 (H) And that's why uh Paul says, 540.840 541.975 in Romans five, 541.975 545.510 .. that God (H) pours out his love in our hearts. 545.510 547.170 .. (H) By the Holy Spirit. 547.170 548.180 .. (H) Now, 548.180 548.800 % there, 548.800 550.345 the love that's poured out, 550.345 553.750 .. does not describe (H) the love that we have for Go=d, 553.750 556.325 although that is the fruit of the Spirit you know, 556.325 557.905 .. love joy peace .. so on? 557.905 558.705 (H) Uh, 558.705 559.935 but 0n that passage, 559.935 560.765 in Romans five, 560.765 562.710 Paul isn't talking about (H) uh, 562.710 565.050 the gift of love that we have for God, 565.050 568.385 (H) he's talking about the gift of love that God has for us. 568.385 571.225 .. (H) Because he goes on to describe that love of God. 571.225 573.115 .. God commends his love toward us, 573.115 575.290 in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. 575.290 577.315 .. (H) So it's God's love for us, 577.315 578.870 that's poured out in our hearts, 578.870 580.585 by the Holy Spirit given to us. 580.585 582.475 .. (H) % Which is uh, 582.475 583.465 ... (TSK) (H) again. 583.465 584.335 ... (TSK) (H) uh, 584.505 586.585 .. a wonderful .. reality. 587.290 588.630 ... (TSK) .. (H) Because, 588.630 590.190 .. if God didn't do that, 590.505 590.840 ... uh, 590.840 592.485 <@ we wouldn't have a love for God @>. 593.250 596.710 ... There's no .. spring of that divine love within us. 596.710 598.490 .. (H) It comes from him. 598.490 600.035 ... And it does come from him, 600.035 601.070 and he does give it. 601.460 606.580 .. (H)= .. And so the Spirit is the spirit of (Hx) uh adoption. 606.580 608.275 The spirit of sonship. 608.275 609.045 ... (H) Now, 609.045 610.640 to be the spirit of sonship, 610.640 612.870 he has to be also the spirit of fatherhood, 612.870 613.330 right? 613.330 615.545 (Hx) (H) ... (H) Uh to make us <>, 615.545 617.050 that we are children of God, 617.050 618.695 (H) uh we have to know, 618.695 619.865 .. that he is our father. 619.865 620.395 And so, 620.395 622.005 (H) it is the love of God, 622.005 623.545 made real to our hearts, 623.545 625.340 .. the knowledge that he does love us, 625.340 626.875 .. that he is present with us, 626.875 630.245 (H) that uh .. becomes of course then the source, 630.245 632.470 (H) of our .. uh .. love toward him. 632.720 633.780 .. (H) Um, 634.395 635.440 ... (TSK) (H) uh [friends], 634.910 635.445 AUD: [(COUGH)] 635.440 635.800 JEFF: uh, 635.800 636.800 .. (H) there's -- 636.800 638.530 .. there's nothing more important. 638.530 640.200 ... For the whole balance, 640.200 641.165 and stability, 641.165 641.995 and progress, 641.995 642.615 and growth, 642.615 644.100 of our Christian lives. 644.100 645.220 ... (H) Than, 645.220 646.625 .. % to realize, 646.625 647.320 again, 647.320 647.975 and again, 647.975 648.675 and again, 648.675 649.760 (H) the uh, 649.760 650.600 .. the wonder, 650.600 652.785 .. of our union with Jesus Christ. 652.785 653.975 .. Through the Spirit. 654.340 658.045 ... Because it's in Jesus Christ that we are united to the Father, 658.045 661.935 .. (H) and it is by the Spirit that Christ is present in our hearts, 661.935 665.095 (H) and it's by the Spirit that the Father is present in our hearts. 665.095 667.760 (H) .. Two aspects .. of union with Christ, 667.760 669.955 i- I think you all know this theology, 669.955 672.310 but it always pays .. think about it again. 672.310 674.445 .. (H) The representative union, 674.445 675.630 .. the vital union. 676.015 677.670 .. (H) The representative union. 678.240 680.565 ... (H) The basis of our salvation. 680.765 682.430 .. (H) When Christ died, 682.590 684.040 ... we died (Hx). 684.040 686.155 ... (H) Because he died for us. 686.675 688.370 ... He died as our representative, 688.370 689.615 he died in our place, 689.615 691.715 .. (H) uh he died as uh, 691.715 693.105 (H) uh the one, 693.105 695.840 (H) uh % who bore our sins. 695.840 696.890 .. In his own body, 696.890 697.975 (H) on the tree. 699.210 701.035 ... So he was our representative. 701.035 701.675 .. Right? 702.090 703.850 ... (H) And he represented us, 703.850 705.260 not only as Paul teaches, 705.260 706.800 .. not only when he died for us, 706.800 708.085 but when he rose for us. 708.315 710.080 ... (H) And then he ascended, 710.080 711.530 into the heavenly places, 711.530 712.305 and where he is, 712.305 712.960 we are. 712.960 714.985 .. (H) And that's why Paul says in Ephesians, 714.985 716.610 that we are in the heavenly places, 716.610 717.935 in Christ Jesus. 717.935 718.335 .. Why. 718.335 719.930 (H) Representatively. 719.930 720.615 .. Where he is, 720.615 721.195 .. we are. 721.860 722.985 ... (H) Now, 722.985 724.595 .. that's a tremendously, 724.595 725.980 .. important of course, 725.980 727.055 foundational, 727.055 729.010 life-transforming truth. 729.185 731.325 ... (H) It's happened (Hx). 731.325 731.890 ... See (Hx), 731.890 734.025 (H) you a=re a a new creature in Christ, 734.025 735.555 because you're united to him. 735.555 738.535 ... (H) You ha=ve triumphed over sin and death. 738.535 740.155 (H) You ha=ve died to sin. 740.155 743.585 (H) And Paul's .. reasoning about how we ought to live, 743.585 745.270 [is] always grounded in that. 743.445 743.700 AUD: [(COUGH)] 745.270 746.105 JEFF: (H) Uh you know, 746.105 747.205 in Colossians. 747.205 747.390 Uh, 747.390 748.860 (H) it's because, 748.860 750.645 (H) Christ rose, 750.645 753.460 .. that we are to seek the things which are above. 753.460 755.005 .. .. You are risen with Christ. 755.005 756.625 Seek the things which are above. 756.625 758.710 .. (H) Because you died with Christ, 758.710 761.730 therefore mortify .. sin in your members. 761.730 763.075 (H) Put to death sin, 763.075 764.495 because it has died. 764.495 765.870 (H) In other words, 765.870 768.975 the imperative is always grounded in the indicative. 768.975 771.470 .. Because of what Christ did for us, 771.470 772.510 .. therefore, 772.510 775.015 (H) uh we live out of the fact, 775.015 776.035 the reality, 776.035 777.195 the accomplishment, 777.195 778.825 (H) of his perfect work. 778.825 780.285 (H) And don't forget, 780.285 783.155 .. Jesus not only paid the price of your sins, 783.155 786.740 (H) but remember that he lived a perfect life for you (hx). 786.740 789.120 (H) That the white robe of righteousness, 789.120 790.845 that you wear in that last day, 790.845 792.835 is the robe of Christ's righteousness. 792.835 793.075 So, 793.075 795.795 (H) it's all that Christ . 795.795 800.230 %= (H) uh % Jesus was baptized for you (Hx). 800.230 803.170 (H) Uh let it be done to fill all righteousness. 803.170 805.325 .. The righteousness he had to fill for you. 805.325 807.100 .. See he he did it all for you. 807.100 809.745 (H)= But then of course the other side of it is, 809.745 811.655 it's not only representative, 811.655 812.990 it's also vital. 812.990 814.755 .. Jesus Christ is the vine, 814.755 816.365 (H) and we are the branches. 816.365 817.700 Y- we're united to him. 817.700 819.865 Our life is drawn from Christ. 819.865 820.925 There is the uh, 820.925 827.815 (H) uh not only the (H) the the legal uh aspect of that which Christ did for us, 827.815 829.235 as our representative, 829.235 831.365 (H) there is the vital aspect, 831.365 833.270 of what Christ does in us, 833.270 834.560 .. as he lives in us, 834.560 835.730 and dwells in us, 835.730 837.280 and has fellowship with us, 837.280 839.195 and (H) and we walk with him. 839.195 839.840 (H) Uh, 839.840 840.845 (H) uh every -- 840.845 841.970 (H) uh y- y- you know, 841.970 843.475 i- % 0t's uh, 843.475 847.765 (H) it's been long fashionable in theological circles to uh, 848.430 849.750 ... sniff at the hymn, 849.750 851.910 (H) uh I walked in the garden alone, 851.910 853.860 while the dew was still on the roses, 853.860 854.395 you know, 854.395 856.665 uh all this uh romantic business, 856.665 857.050 and uh, 857.050 859.675 (H) and not a shred of theology in the whole hymn, 859.675 862.410 and yet everybody .. perversely seems to love it. 862.410 863.920 (H) Uh well @uh=, 863.920 864.730 (H) @uh=, 864.730 865.970 (H) I I I think, 865.970 868.455 I think the reason it's so loved, 868.455 869.905 in spite of its uh, 869.905 872.835 (H) uh uh theological vacuity, 872.905 876.565 (H) [uh is that it's uh] experientially, 873.135 875.105 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 876.565 878.735 JEFF: uh 0retty much on target. 878.735 880.130 @@ @@ 880.130 885.610 We've all known those uh precious times of uh (H) of genuine fellowship with the Lord, 885.610 886.475 (H) that uh, 886.475 887.860 (H) % that- % -- 887.860 890.525 we can describe only with great difficulty. 890.525 892.115 @ (H) And uh, 892.115 893.090 it's true, 893.090 893.635 you see, 893.635 893.945 uh, 893.945 896.565 we are vitally united to Jesus Christ. 896.565 897.775 Uh we do know him, 897.775 900.165 (H) and the knowledge that we have of him, 900.165 901.675 (H) is the knowledge of love. 901.675 903.650 % We just simply .. love him. 903.880 904.870 ... (H) Uh, 904.870 906.335 .. (H) we uh, 906.335 908.130 % (TSK) (H) ow the mystics, 908.130 909.605 the Christian myth- mystics, 909.605 911.885 l- love to talk about % (Hx) -- 912.145 914.565 ... (H) we've got some kind of time constraint here, 914.565 915.925 what % [uh uh what- -- 914.895 917.645 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 915.925 917.675 JEFF: w- (H) w- w- when do we], 917.785 918.125 DAN: [2I think2], 917.675 918.190 JEFF: [2When2] -- 918.125 919.350 DAN: I think we're done when you are. 919.350 919.880 [so @@], 919.730 920.365 JEFF: [(H) well], 920.365 921.245 I [2I gotta be2] -- 920.940 922.440 DAN: [2finish2] what you have [33]. 921.245 922.260 JEFF: [3I I well3] -- 922.260 922.995 I'll I yeah. 922.995 925.190 Let me try to finish <@ what I'm talking about here but, 925.190 926.060 (H) but uh @>, 926.060 926.985 (H) , 930.165 931.615 <@ you know [it's wonderful @>, 930.165 933.870 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)]= 931.615 933.100 JEFF: @ (H) @@ (H)] 933.100 934.700 uh it's particularly wonderful, 934.700 937.475 cause I know you know everything I'm saying @anyway,s@so , 937.475 939.200 you can smile affirmatively, 939.200 940.110 and that encourages me, 940.110 940.550 that's great. 940.550 941.750 [uh but (throat)] -- 940.920 942.770 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)]= 942.770 943.310 JEFF: But uh, 943.310 943.955 (H) but, 943.955 944.860 %= really, 944.860 945.975 the- the- that uh, 945.975 949.220 you know the Christian mystics .. talked about climbing Jacob's ladder. 949.220 949.690 And uh, 949.690 952.170 (H) uh you you you'd .. come up the ladder, 952.170 953.290 and when you get at the top, 953.290 954.810 you fling yourself down, 954.810 956.360 .. at the very gate of heaven. 956.360 957.375 .. And maybe uh, 957.375 959.135 (H) maybe the gate will open. 959.135 960.685 Y- you can't .. control it, 960.685 962.135 you don't know when it will open, 962.135 963.370 .. but maybe it will open. 963.370 964.775 (H) And when it opens, 964.775 965.230 then, 965.230 966.280 uh it's uh, 966.280 968.840 (H) light .. bursting in your inner heart. 968.840 970.130 (Hx) (H) And uh, 970.130 971.810 (H) once you've had that experience, 971.810 974.420 you'd .. give anything to have the experience repeated. 974.420 975.255 And so uh, 975.255 977.740 (H) you go through any amount of discipline, 977.740 978.375 and uh, 978.375 980.570 try out different forms of discipline, 980.570 981.065 and uh, 981.065 985.755 (H) you recite the Jesus prayer thousands of times with the monks of Mount Athos, 985.755 986.130 and uh, 986.130 986.945 (H) and uh, 986.945 988.000 sooner or later, 988.000 989.510 uh you think it may happen. 989.510 990.265 Uh the uh, 990.265 992.310 you you may gain that experience. 992.560 994.030 (H)= .. Well now uh, 994.030 994.560 you know, 994.560 996.755 there are experiences of ecstasy, 996.755 997.320 tha- uh, 997.320 1000.685 that can be induced by a transformation of consciousness, 1000.685 1001.505 (H) and uh, 1001.505 1003.765 I think Christians sometimes have uh, 1003.765 1007.070 (H) uh mingled that uh psychological experience, 1007.070 1007.320 uh, 1007.320 1009.240 (H) whether it's the left .. part or, 1009.240 1011.380 or the right part of the brain taking over, 1011.380 1012.000 .. or something, 1012.000 1014.245 % (H) I don't think um, 1014.245 1014.900 uh, 1014.900 1015.925 (H) the um, 1015.925 1018.535 .. the psychologists are as sure as they once were, 1018.535 1021.510 or even the neurologists about how some of those things happen, 1021.510 1022.045 .. but uh, 1022.045 1023.310 (H) uh at any rate, 1023.310 1023.920 (H) uh, 1023.920 1024.735 %= you [see, 1024.440 1025.030 AUD: [(COUGH)] 1024.735 1027.720 JEFF: %]= it isn't that we have to climb the ladder. 1027.720 1030.090 @@@ (H) @ (H) And uh, 1030.090 1034.660 @I'm @I'm sorry that that whole (H) episode with Jacob got misunderstood. 1034.660 1036.265 (H) All because uh, 1036.265 1039.055 (H) all because of the Hebrew preposition al. 1039.055 1039.685 .. That uh, 1039.685 1041.440 wasn't taken account of. 1041.440 1043.090 @@ (H) Uh that see, 1043.090 1043.460 (H) uh, 1043.460 1046.355 he he stood .. uh .. upon, 1046.695 1047.705 ... not it. 1047.705 1048.280 ... ee, 1048.280 1050.365 he % Jacob st- saw the stairway, 1050.365 1051.785 not a painter's ladder of course, 1051.785 1052.075 but a, 1052.075 1054.305 (H) a tower of Babel type of thing, 1054.305 1054.785 a uh, 1054.785 1055.805 (H) a zigarot. 1055.805 1056.460 .. r- right? 1056.460 1057.465 You got a zigarot and, 1057.465 1061.050 @@ (H) which was made for the gods to touch down at the top, 1061.050 1062.495 and then they could come down uh, 1062.495 1063.050 to the bottom. 1063.050 1065.205 You know it was like a little heliport for the gods there. 1065.205 1066.030 That [was he idea. 1065.330 1068.590 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 1066.305 1067.060 JEFF: But but uh, 1067.120 1068.270 th- they they'd come down, 1068.270 1069.725 there'd be a] temple at the bottom, 1069.725 1071.755 and then uh (H) the god could be with the people. 1071.755 1072.670 (H) [But uh, 1072.040 1073.860 AUD: [@@@@@@] 1072.670 1075.235 JEFF: (H) uh but it it] wasn't that that God -- 1075.235 1078.465 that .. that uh Jacob saw God at the top of the ladder, 1078.465 1079.300 up in Heaven, 1079.300 1082.490 (H) uh God stood (H) uh upon him. 1082.880 1085.710 ... (H) Uh the the masculine uh there, 1085.710 1086.345 the uh, 1086.345 1089.730 (H) v- v- v- vowel with the little dot <@ over it, 1089.730 1091.550 you know the @> (H) the the holem? 1091.550 1093.140 (H) Uh he he he's uh, 1093.140 1095.115 0h he stood upon hi=m. 1095.115 1095.730 (H) uh, 1095.730 1097.760 which is the common Hebrew expression, 1097.760 1099.460 (H) and you know that's what it is, 1099.460 1103.625 because the second time when God appeared to b- 0h uh j- Jacob at Bethel, 1103.625 1104.390 (H) uh, 1104.390 1105.855 the same expression is used. 1105.855 1107.865 He went up from upon him. 1107.865 1108.225 .. See? 1108.225 1108.460 Uh, 1108.460 1109.780 it's the same expression. 1109.780 1110.560 (H) So, 1110.560 1112.315 God had come down the ladder. 1112.315 1113.455 <@ That's what we miss @>. 1113.455 1115.575 (H) He wasn't standing up there at the top, 1115.575 1117.615 (H) uh he came down the ladder. 1117.615 1120.060 (H) And uh % when he came down the ladder, 1120.060 1121.500 he stood over Jacob, 1121.500 1123.205 and revealed himself to Jacob. 1123.205 1124.885 (H) And that's why Jacob said, 1124.885 1126.690 this is the house of God, 1126.690 1128.180 .. this is the gate of Heaven. 1128.180 1129.805 (H) It was the House of God, 1129.805 1130.290 he said, 1130.290 1132.300 because God was in this place, 1132.300 1133.520 and I didn't know it. 1133.520 1134.425 .. (H) See, 1134.425 1135.845 @ (H) @ (H) it- it's, 1135.845 1137.515 this is Bethel here, 1137.515 1139.390 because here God has come to us. 1139.390 1142.215 (H) So God was revealing himself to Jacob, 1142.215 1144.510 (H) and God reveals himself to us. 1144.510 1145.705 He comes to us. 1145.705 1146.625 (H) And uh, 1146.625 1148.330 (H) he seeks us. 1148.330 1149.470 .. As we seek him. 1149.470 1153.015 .. (H) And our love is always in response to his love. 1153.015 1156.650 (H) And it's the assurance that your God loves you. 1156.650 1157.850 .. that he seeks you. 1157.850 1158.835 .. that he's with you. 1158.835 1159.990 That he comes to you. 1159.990 1161.670 (H) It's this assurance, 1161.670 1164.390 that draws you (H) to repentance, 1164.390 1165.750 and draws you to faith, 1165.750 1167.420 and draws you to himself. 1167.420 1168.330 (H) Um, 1168.330 1169.480 (H) the uh, 1169.480 1170.110 .. (H) 0h, 1170.310 1171.900 salvation is of the Lord. 1171.900 1173.255 @ (H) And uh, 1173.255 1174.805 it's the Lord's love, 1174.805 1176.645 (H) who quickens your love. 1176.645 1177.470 (H) Well, 1178.225 1179.750 ... (TSK) I'm not going to say, 1179.750 1183.640 uh .. th- the rest of the things I .. I had in mind to say, 1183.640 1184.510 (H) But, 1184.510 1185.330 uh I, 1185.330 1188.095 % you can fill out the talk for me, 1188.095 1189.485 .. would you please sometime. 1189.485 1191.955 .. (H) the (H) the commitment of love, 1191.955 1193.250 the obedience of love. 1193.250 1195.445 If you love me keep my commandments. 1195.445 1197.090 (Hx) (H) Um, 1197.090 1198.525 (H) % .. remember, 1198.525 1200.510 uh Mary's adoration, 1200.510 1203.110 .. Uh when she uh .. brought the spikenard, 1203.110 1203.420 and uh, 1203.420 1205.605 opened it and poured it out on the feet of Jesus, 1205.605 1207.380 just before he went to the cross? 1207.380 1209.965 (H) And Judas criticized her remember, 1209.965 1211.265 .. (H) Uh because, 1211.265 1211.675 he said, 1211.675 1213.455 this could have been given to the poor, 1213.455 1214.240 (H) uh, 1214.240 1216.585 he- he- he was the first old-fashioned liberal. 1216.585 1218.405 (Hx) Don't worship Jesus, 1218.405 1219.460 but help the poor. 1219.460 1220.500 .. (H) Uh, 1220.500 1221.185 but uh, 1221.185 1225.900 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 1221.185 1222.830 JEFF: [(H) Uh y- you see, 1222.830 1223.265 uh, 1223.265 1224.175 (H) (Hx) uh, 1224.175 1225.945 w- what- what was the answer]. 1225.945 1228.610 What was the answer that Jesus uh gave. 1228.610 1228.980 Uh, 1228.980 1229.740 (H) uh, 1229.740 1231.270 n- let her do this. 1231.270 1232.095 Let her keep it. 1232.095 1234.080 Not in the sense of preserving the ointment, 1234.080 1235.315 she was pouring it out, 1235.315 1237.070 .. but in the sense of observing it. 1237.070 1240.730 (H) Observing a a an observance against his burial. 1240.795 1241.700 (H) Uh so, 1241.700 1243.610 she realized what his death meant, 1243.610 1245.710 (H) and she realized who he was. 1245.710 1247.940 (H) He said the poor you have with you always, 1247.940 1248.495 but me, 1248.495 1249.835 (H) you have not always. 1249.835 1253.440 @ (H) A tremendous assurance of his own deity. 1253.440 1255.135 Who else could say something like that. 1255.135 1255.415 Hunh? 1255.415 1257.045 @ (H) But Jesus said it, 1257.045 1258.040 (H) and uh, 1258.475 1260.520 ... uh you see what that says to us. 1260.520 1262.930 (Hx) ... (TSK) (H) Uh, 1263.470 1264.955 ... if our Lord were here, 1264.955 1267.210 .. then we could pour out perfume on his feet. 1267.345 1269.230 .. (H) He's not here. 1269.500 1270.430 ... But who is. 1270.430 1273.410 .. (H) The poor .. you have with you always (Hx). 1273.770 1276.065 ... (H) So whose feet can we anoint. 1276.065 1277.990 (Hx) The feet of the poor, 1277.990 1278.785 .. in his name. 1278.955 1279.320 ... See. 1279.320 1280.695 ... (H) Uh, 1281.230 1283.595 ... love .. uh uh doesn't mean, 1283.595 1289.685 (Hx) (H) %= ... 0h climbing up .. Jacob's ladder .. % to the heavenlies, 1289.685 1292.195 % ... where nobody else can be around. 1292.195 1297.035 @@ (H) The love of God is experienced in the community of the saints, 1297.125 1299.520 ... it's experienced as we all reached out. 1299.520 1300.135 .. reach out. 1300.135 1300.875 to the breadth, 1300.875 1301.615 and the length, 1301.615 1302.100 and the height, 1302.100 1302.865 and the depth, 1303.155 1305.480 (H) and the love of God is experienced, 1305.480 1307.430 (H) in the course of service. 1307.995 1311.470 ... (H) A- I heard you describe some of these service projects, 1311.470 1312.095 that uh, 1312.095 1314.720 (H) um .. Intervarsity is involved in, 1314.720 1315.845 (H) and friends, 1315.845 1316.305 um, 1316.305 1320.040 .. (H) these @@ (H) these projects, 1320.040 1324.775 .. (H) even if uh ... they're working about rebuilding old houses, 1324.775 1326.475 or whatever @ (H), 1326.475 1329.855 ... they are not things . that have nothing to do with love. 1330.355 1332.680 ... (H) They a=re works of love. 1332.930 1335.280 ... They are .. the evidence, 1335.660 1337.430 ... of that .. love of God, 1337.430 1338.330 .. in our hearts. 1338.330 1339.400 Uh they are the fruit, 1339.400 1340.440 .. that is borne, 1340.440 1342.095 (H) by the tree, 1342.095 1346.790 .. that has the roots down into the water of God's refreshing grace and love. 1346.790 1348.665 .. (H) .. And uh, 1348.665 1352.305 .. the mystical heights of Christian devotion, 1352.305 1356.090 .. (H) ought never to be separated .. from .. the realities, 1356.090 1358.725 (H) of uh .. Christian .. service. 1360.955 1362.025 ... The uh, 1362.025 1365.045 ... there was a hymn .. in the old InterVarsity hymnal, 1365.045 1366.215 it's not in the new one, 1366.215 1367.545 by XX XX, 1367.545 1370.005 a hymn that I .. love v- very much. 1370.005 1373.350 (H) Talks about how we go with Jesus through the desert, 1373.350 1374.270 and through uh, 1374.270 1375.440 (H) the sufferings, 1375.440 1376.890 and the trials of this life. 1376.890 1377.915 (H) .. And uh, 1377.915 1379.825 .. its very last verse is uh, 1379.825 1382.520 (H) (Hx). 1406.580 1408.425 ... (H) My friends, 1408.515 1410.565 ... in the wonder of God's love. 1411.050 1412.970 ... He's pleased with you. 1413.930 1415.955 ... God who looked at his own Son, 1415.955 1417.540 .. and his heart rejoiced. 1418.320 1420.555 ... His heart rejoices this morning. 1420.675 1422.230 .. In your praise. 1422.230 1423.715 ... In your worship. 1423.715 1426.295 .. (H) In the service of your hands. 1427.015 1428.570 ... In the love of your heart. 1429.585 1430.845 ... Shall we pray. 1431.350 1433.250 ... (TSK) (H) Our heavenly Father, 1434.525 1439.505 ... we ... annot find words to express our love for you, 1441.065 1444.400 ... because we are overwhelmed by your love for us. 1445.475 1446.790 ... Lord Jesus, 1446.920 1449.040 ... how may we speak to you, 1449.380 1451.955 ... of that .. which you give to us. 1452.450 1453.785 ... Spirit of God, 1454.245 1455.650 ... how we praise you, 1455.650 1459.300 ... that when we do not know what to pray as we should, 1459.475 1461.520 ... you make intercession for us, 1461.520 1463.525 with groanings that cannot be uttered. 1463.915 1465.195 ... (H) And o Lord, 1466.370 1468.855 ... receive we pray ... this morning, 1468.855 1471.875 ... the incense (H) of our love for you, 1472.670 1473.265 AUD: ... (COUGH) 1473.000 1474.350 JEFF: and forbid Lord, 1475.025 1478.745 ... that this should be just a passing emotion in our hearts, 1479.255 1483.435 ... uh b=urn it upon= the deepest .. recesses of our being. 1484.195 1486.305 ... Make us Lord your servants. 1486.305 1488.300 .. (H) Your servants in love. 1488.685 1490.570 ... We ask it in Jesus's name, 1490.570 1491.305 .. amen. 1496.395 1497.395 DAN: ... [Doctor ~Mosely] thank you, 1496.120 1497.070 JEFF: [(H)] 1497.395 1497.815 DAN: .. for & 1497.815 1498.195 AUD: Yeah. 1498.280 1499.535 DAN: & coming and [speaking] to us. 1498.530 1498.985 JEFF: [N_yeah]. 1499.460 1507.040 MANY: ((APPLAUSE))