0.000 1.832 GARY: ... . 5.505 8.332 ... Mm-kay. 8.332 9.633 ... ~Jamie wrote this out, 9.633 10.982 .. in a hurry this morning, 10.982 13.774 JULIE: ... (H) Yeah, 13.774 15.139 she said she thought she had, 15.139 16.407 .. gotten a brand inspection done, 16.407 17.732 since she got to Colorado? 17.732 20.564 ... But then she said she didn't know where it was and, 20.564 22.344 (H) [that's what he wanted to know]. 20.895 21.757 GARY: [I've never heard of it. 21.757 22.308 So], 22.344 23.212 JULIE: ... P- he .. % -- 23.212 24.046 That's what I need to know, 24.046 26.295 he said if there was a prior brand inspection, 26.295 28.572 (H) then [he would have to go] off of that one. 26.970 27.772 MATT: [P>] -- 28.572 30.700 JULIE: If there was no prior brand [2inspection, 29.975 32.591 MATT: [2((DOOR_CLOSING))2] 30.700 32.591 JULIE: (H) then he could just go off of this2], 32.591 33.628 and issue me a new one. 33.628 34.480 GARY: .. (H) If -- 34.480 35.878 Is there a brand inspection, 35.878 37.728 if we bring one in from out of state? 37.728 38.343 JULIE: (H) Well, 38.343 41.488 she said since it was not required in California when she bought the pony, 41.488 42.242 which it is now, 42.242 43.790 they reinstated it about a year ag[o. 43.651 44.013 GARY: [Oh]. 43.790 44.590 JULIE: (H)] She -- 44.590 46.640 I thought she said she had had one done here. 46.640 47.144 GARY: ... Oh. 47.144 47.737 JULIE: .. But, 47.737 48.766 .. [if she didn't], 47.828 48.766 GARY: [(H) I wouldn't know]. 48.766 49.018 JULIE: [2you know, 48.766 50.130 GARY: [2I don't do any horse things2]. 49.018 49.493 JULIE: I just need -- 49.493 50.534 All I need to kn2]ow is, 50.534 51.685 if she ever had one done, 51.685 52.431 .. or if she didn't. 52.431 53.000 (H) He said, 53.000 54.024 if she didn't have one done, 54.024 55.793 sh- he'll just go= .. off the papers. 55.793 56.198 GARY: [Yeah]. 55.793 57.027 JULIE: [(H)] And this (Hx). 57.027 58.193 GARY: ... These papers here? 58.193 58.681 JULIE: .. Unhu[nh]. 58.588 58.965 GARY: [O]kay. 58.965 62.182 JULIE: ... And I sent in the papers to be, 62.182 62.762 ... uh, 62.762 63.807 transferred to my name. 63.807 65.397 (H) <@ They haven't been @> transferred, 65.397 67.047 since @nineteen-seventy-seven. 67.047 69.005 (H)= I don't know how many owners she's had. 69.005 69.680 But it hasn't -- 69.680 70.567 GARY: ... Wow. 70.567 73.321 JULIE: ... You don't remember the name of the people you bought her from. 73.321 73.598 Do you? 73.598 74.874 GARY: ... No, 74.874 76.361 but then that's not ... un[usual, 76.011 76.361 JULIE: [Yeah. 76.361 76.726 GARY: cause I] -- 76.361 77.300 JULIE: You don't] ride do you. 77.300 77.908 GARY: I don't ride, 77.908 78.833 and I'm not involved, 78.833 79.833 the only thing I do is, 79.833 80.184 um, 80.184 81.152 JULIE: (H) Pay the bills. 81.152 81.515 GARY: .. I'm -- 81.515 81.862 No. 81.862 82.672 She pays the @bills, 82.672 83.325 (H) I -- 83.325 85.739 I .. earn the (H) ... the money to pay the bills, 85.739 85.981 but, 85.981 86.738 she uh, 86.738 87.783 .. I do the hard labor. 87.783 89.161 I build barns and, 89.161 91.001 (H) make arenas, 91.001 92.953 ... (H) shovel manure, 92.953 93.960 % that's about it. 93.960 95.798 ... (SNIFF) 95.798 97.658 JULIE: ... Well I really like this pony. 97.658 99.172 She's gonna work out great [here. 98.787 99.345 GARY: [Alright. 99.345 99.584 good]. 99.172 101.336 JULIE: (H)] She's gonna go competitive trail riding. 101.336 102.152 .. Do the novice, 102.152 103.602 thirty-mile competitive trail [rides, 103.326 103.828 GARY: [Wow]. 103.602 104.077 JULIE: with] a, 104.077 105.306 an eleven-year-old thi[2s year. 105.039 105.591 GARY: [2Wow2]. 105.306 108.202 JULIE: (H)2]= So this eleven-year-old's horse is a little bit big for her, 108.202 110.346 and she's still intimidated on him out on the trails, 110.346 110.990 even though he's great. 110.990 112.440 So I'm gonna take him this year, 112.440 115.317 (H) a=nd she's gonna take ... the pony, 115.317 115.796 and, 115.796 116.830 (H) .. she's, 116.830 118.839 she had her at the Air Force Academy Sunday and just, 118.839 119.668 had a great [time]. 119.380 120.080 GARY: [Al]right. 120.080 121.642 Was i- [2on a trail or something2]? 120.667 122.634 JULIE: [2And she now goes through2] water just fine. 122.634 124.002 GARY: ... Through water[3=. 123.780 124.331 JULIE: [3Yes. 124.202 124.987 GARY: .. That's great3]. 124.331 126.359 JULIE: she goes through3] running water this deep. 126.359 127.165 Happily n[4ow. 127.013 127.904 GARY: [4That's great4]. 127.165 129.362 JULIE: (H)=4] And all the kids had to do was get her through %- -- 129.362 130.333 Get her in a couple times, 130.333 131.433 and she decided it was fun. 131.433 132.082 She likes it. 132.082 133.628 GARY: .. [@@@ @X (H)] 132.200 133.353 JULIE: [(H) And, 133.353 134.783 now] you don't even have to ask. 134.783 135.544 GARY: That[2's great2]. 134.991 135.878 JULIE: [2She just g2]oes. 135.878 136.560 ... So, 136.560 138.571 seventeen years old they can still learn something. 138.571 139.546 GARY: ... Uh, 139.546 140.902 .. now= how do you, 140.902 143.172 ... get on a trail ride at the .. Air Force Academy. 143.172 143.595 JULIE: ... Well, 143.595 144.522 they have a lotta trails there, 144.522 145.639 we just trailer over there. 145.639 148.204 ... We just .. [load the horses in a trailer ]. 146.615 147.254 GARY: [Alright. 147.254 148.204 .. That's neat]. 148.204 149.205 JULIE: ... And head over. 149.205 150.848 (H) They have real pretty trails. 150.848 152.375 GARY: ... We just drove around, 152.375 153.348 I was .. showing ~Matt, 153.348 154.450 he's only here for one day, 154.450 155.600 JULIE: ... Oh where's he from? 155.600 157.495 GARY: .. (TSK) He's fr=om UC .. Santa Barbara. 157.495 158.531 [Or=] Santa Barbara. 157.625 157.901 JULIE: [Mm]. 158.531 160.365 GARY: ... University of California Santa Barba[2ra2]. 160.157 160.847 JULIE: [2And2] .. what's his name? 160.847 161.499 GARY: ... ~Matt? 161.499 162.537 JULIE: I thought you said ~Matt. 162.537 162.802 GARY: Ye[ah]. 162.671 163.021 JULIE: [O]kay. 163.021 164.273 GARY: ... ~Matt and uh, 164.273 167.091 (H) [he he he's back] on the= airplane tomorrow morning. 164.711 165.613 JULIE: [I'm bad on names]. 167.091 168.641 GARY: so [2we were .. driving2] around and, 167.327 167.973 JULIE: [2Oh wow2]. 168.641 170.296 GARY: (H) went to the Air Force Academy and, 170.296 172.996 .. [(H)= .. Took him over to Garden of the Gods, 170.371 173.511 JULIE: [((PAPER_CUTTING))] 172.996 174.161 GARY: and it was hail]ing on us, 174.161 174.811 and everything, 174.811 175.559 ... okay, 175.559 176.067 thank you, 176.067 176.623 .. and, 176.623 177.677 JULIE: .. (Hx), 177.677 179.160 GARY: .. (H) She gave me two of those. 179.160 179.990 JULIE: [receipt]. 179.153 180.306 GARY: [I guess one for you] to keep, 180.306 181.857 and one for ... [2her to keep2]. 181.241 181.857 JULIE: [2Okay2]. 181.857 183.146 ... % Do you wanna just write on here, 183.146 184.771 that I've paid that fifty [dollars now]. 184.134 184.771 GARY: [Yes]. 184.771 185.329 I sure do. 185.329 187.949 ... (H) ... And fifty [bucks, 187.622 188.099 JULIE: [And then we're -- 187.949 189.000 GARY: .. paid by], 188.099 189.251 JULIE: We'll .. be done] with it. 189.251 189.701 (Hx) 189.701 190.519 GARY: .. Uh=, 190.519 191.599 ... (H) paid b- -- 191.599 192.425 H=ow do I do this. 192.425 194.357 (H) .. And fifty dollars will be [paid], 193.870 195.822 JULIE: [Just put] down five twenty-four ninety-four. 195.822 197.801 ... And then write paid in full. 197.801 199.170 Cause tod[ay's five] [2twenty-four2]. 198.160 198.538 GARY: [Right]. 198.538 199.662 [2Right2] (Hx). 199.662 202.165 ... Twenty-four May, 202.165 204.098 ... (H) ninety-four, 204.098 209.556 ... (H) paid ... in ... full, 209.556 211.111 JULIE: ... And then just initial it. 211.111 213.613 GARY: ... Yeah. 213.613 214.613 JULIE: ... Okay. 214.613 217.372 GARY: ... Now I better do that on the other one too. 217.372 218.331 JULIE: .. Okay (Hx). 218.331 223.301 ... @ @@@@ 223.301 224.651 <@ I like your signature @>. 224.651 226.330 ... @@@ (H) 226.330 226.580 GARY: WH>. 226.580 229.411 JULIE: ... Yeah she's even got a boyfriend. 229.411 230.724 .. The little Morgan Gelding. 230.724 232.474 Has decided that's his mare herd. 232.474 234.126 (H) He's been lonesome for, 234.126 235.269 .. the last year or so. 235.269 235.744 Since he's -- 235.744 237.113 Well he's been lonesome for a long time. 237.113 238.600 Cause he's been kept alone all his life, 238.600 238.976 he was -- 238.976 240.458 wasn't gelded till he was eleven. 240.458 241.194 (H)= 241.194 241.564 GARY: So. 241.564 243.595 ... One of these .. you get .. to keep, 243.595 244.336 how about that o[ne]. 244.172 244.691 JULIE: [Mm-]kay. 244.691 246.440 GARY: ... (H) And uh, 246.440 249.167 ... I guess that's it hunh[=]? 248.986 250.687 JULIE: [An]d then just have ~Ja[2mie call me2], 249.970 250.220 GARY: [2Now, 250.220 250.687 yeah2]. 250.687 251.599 JULIE: and let me know, 251.599 253.925 if she's ever had a brand inspection done on this pony, 253.925 255.374 since she got to Colorado, 255.374 257.984 because if there's a prior brand inspection on her? 257.984 258.587 GARY: ... Righ[t]. 258.501 258.854 JULIE: [Th]en it -- 258.854 259.954 There'll be a record of it. 259.954 261.054 GARY: ... Okay. 261.054 262.554 JULIE: ... And then I would need it. 262.554 265.660 or .. n=eed ... some way to look it up. 265.660 267.600 .. [It gets ki]nda ... screwy. 265.854 266.305 GARY: [Okay]. 267.600 270.080 JULIE: ... (H) .. And they look like this (Hx). 270.080 270.532 ... In -- 270.532 271.934 In either pink or blue, 271.934 272.991 >ENV: ... ((DOOR_CLOSING)) 272.991 273.316 JULIE: Or, 273.316 274.851 if you have a permanent one, 274.851 277.358 ... . 279.058 281.298 GARY: ... (TSK) (H) What happened to ~Matt. 281.298 282.379 JULIE: ... % I don't know, 282.379 283.488 [I think he wandered] off. 282.374 283.136 GARY: [He just left]. 283.488 284.075 Okay. 284.075 285.232 JULIE: ... @[@@] 284.951 286.247 GARY: [(H)] Uh[2=, 286.099 287.643 JULIE: [2I sure like your daughter's2] new horse. 286.247 287.061 GARY: Co=-2] -- 287.643 289.088 JULIE: (H) she's l=ovely. 289.088 290.066 GARY: Oh uh Fan[cy]? 289.766 290.906 JULIE: [

. 290.906 291.892 .. Beautiful pony. 291.892 292.672 ... [Horse] 292.153 292.581 GARY: [Yeah]. 292.672 294.910 JULIE: ... Nah I don't have any [2permanents here2]. 294.140 294.910 GARY: [2Okay it's the2], 294.910 296.849 Colorado Department of g- Agriculture. 296.849 297.851 JULIE: .. (H) 297.851 303.541 GARY: ...

, 310.159 311.008 JULIE: ... Well it'[s] -- 310.835 313.037 GARY: [S]tate Board .. of Stock Inspection. 313.037 316.748 JULIE: ... You know it doesn't cost much to do it, 316.748 317.655 but it is a law. 317.655 319.547 ... [and], 319.190 319.798 KAREN: [So] long. 319.798 321.308 JULIE: ... You leaving? 321.308 322.236 KAREN: M[=m]. 321.836 322.411 JULIE: [] -- 322.411 323.768 You= wouldn't believe how good he felt, 323.768 325.318 when I took him out to grass this morning? 325.318 329.016 ... He was ... d=ancing on the end of the lead rope, 329.016 329.844 [And arch] -- 329.062 330.641 KAREN: [Cause he knew where] he was go[2ing2]. 330.491 332.291 JULIE: [2but2] he did it on the way up- .. back too. 332.291 332.792 KAREN: ... Oh. 332.792 334.123 JULIE: .. He had his neck arched, 334.123 336.180 and he's just like vibrating with energy, 336.180 336.742 KAREN: Oh good. 336.742 337.948 Maybe I should go out and ride him now. 337.948 338.880 JULIE: I gu[ess you should]. 338.159 338.880 KAREN: [Woo (sniff)]. 338.880 340.185 GARY: @[2@@@@2] 339.054 339.554 KAREN: [2Bye. 339.554 340.954 @@@2] [3@@@@3] 340.142 340.834 JULIE: [3Bye=3]. 340.954 342.492 Did you see my patio I'm putting in? 342.492 344.043 ... Look how much is done now. 344.043 344.846 KAREN: Oh it's a patio? 344.846 345.924 I thought you were gonna grass it. 345.924 346.966 JULIE: .. No=. 346.966 349.474 [I told you I'm gonna do a f]lagstone patio. 346.966 348.220 KAREN: [You told me you were gonna grass it]. 349.474 351.574 JULIE: That's why I took out all these rocks over here. 351.574 353.100 ... That's [my roommate] ~Karen. 352.191 352.640 KAREN: [O=h]. 353.100 353.731 GARY: ... Okay? 353.731 354.554 (H) [Is] -- 353.931 356.135 KAREN: Well [I never know] what you're gonna do .. from week to week. 356.135 357.179 JULIE: @(Hx) [@@] 356.554 357.603 GARY: [@@@]@@ 357.603 359.037 (H)= Okay, 359.037 359.437 uh=, 359.437 360.240 it's a law, 360.240 362.109 ... Who's supposed to do this. 362.109 363.356 The buyer or the seller or, 363.356 364.239 ... or what. 364.239 364.991 ... I don't know. 364.991 367.284 JULIE: ... I think the seller is supposed to. 367.284 367.695 GARY: ...

. 367.695 369.534 JULIE: (H) Usually the seller's supposed to pay for it, 369.534 370.034 but I just, 370.034 371.805 ... I just do it and I pay for it, 371.805 373.505 it doesn't really make that much difference to me, 373.505 375.080 cause it's only like seven bucks. 375.080 376.457 ... To do it. 376.457 377.797 GARY: ...

. 377.797 378.203 JULIE: .. But, 378.203 378.828 if she ha- -- 378.828 380.213 % I mean it's not a big deal, 380.213 382.870 ... I just need to know if she had one done or didn't have one done. 382.870 383.220 GARY: Okay. 383.220 385.778 JULIE: Cause it'll make a difference on what the brand inspect[tor doe]s. 385.161 385.613 GARY: [Okay]. 385.778 387.318 JULIE: ... If she did have one done, 387.318 388.299 I need to know about when. 388.299 389.602 If she can't find the copy? 389.602 391.124 ... So they can look it up? 391.124 391.502 GARY: Okay. 391.502 394.233 JULIE: ... And I doubt if they're .. terribly computerized. 394.233 396.553 >ENV: ... ((DOOR_CLOSING))[=] 396.253 397.778 JULIE: [Cause I] had this happen once before, 397.778 400.283 when I lost the brand inspection on a horse I'd bought, 400.283 402.172 .. but I remembered the month that I bought it in. 402.172 404.025 And I happened to buy it out at the .. auction. 404.025 405.133 (H) [It was one of my] -- 404.584 406.606 KAREN: [There's a mov]ie sitting on the desk out there. 406.606 407.162 JULIE: What is it. 407.162 408.538 KAREN: ... The Substitute Wife. 408.538 409.439 JULIE: .. (H) Oh=. 409.439 410.377 .. Was that any good? 410.377 411.177 KAREN: It was very good. 411.177 411.816 JULIE: Oh good. 411.816 413.720 You mean [Farrah Fawcett] has learned to act? 412.316 412.916 KAREN: [Didn't we see] -- 413.720 415.214 ... Well it was funny. 415.214 416.100 JULIE: Oh [okay]. 415.430 416.102 KAREN: [It was different]. 416.102 417.349 I don't know how realistic it [2was. 417.072 419.632 JULIE: [2I just didn't think she looked2] the part of a plains wife. 417.349 418.076 KAREN: but it was different2]. 419.632 420.468 ... No, 420.468 420.837 JULIE: No. 420.837 421.417 GARY: (Hx)= 421.417 423.692 JULIE: ... Too many teeth and hair [(Hx)=]. 423.139 423.692 KAREN: [Bye]. 423.692 424.470 .. [2((DOOR_CLOSING))2] 423.817 425.045 GARY: [2@@@2]@@ 425.045 425.887 (H) Well, 425.887 427.867 ... Th- -- 427.867 428.928 okay this is what you get, 428.928 430.164 and [the guy] hands it to you, 429.028 429.439 JULIE: [

], 430.164 430.788 ... Yeah. 430.788 431.491 GARY: ... Okay. 431.491 432.692 ...

]. 433.288 433.680 JULIE: [And] s- -- 433.680 434.381 I'm the -- 434.381 435.600 .. Okay I'm the agent. 435.600 436.974 Let's see this is gonna go to the owner. 436.974 437.564 So yeah. 437.564 438.883 The owner would have the blue copy. 438.883 442.687 ... The a- I was the agent on this horse. 442.687 443.883 ... I'm not the owner. 443.883 444.940 GARY: ... So=, 444.940 445.840 JULIE: ... [But course], 445.262 445.863 GARY: [The=] -- 445.863 447.267 JULIE: we got him last July. 447.267 448.621 <@ So it's been almost a year @>, 448.621 448.997 I just -- 448.997 452.680 (H) I just .. can't bear to bring the brand inspector out for just one horse, 452.680 453.944 because it's only like seven bucks, 453.944 455.004 now this one was seventeen, 455.004 455.371 because, 455.371 457.273 (H) he's getting a permanent brand inspection. 457.273 458.660 ... Which you can keep, 458.660 459.261 ... for the, 459.261 460.753 for as long as you own the horse. 460.753 463.358 GARY: ... What is [a brand] inspection. 462.283 462.736 JULIE: [But it's] -- 463.358 465.954 What it is is your , 465.954 467.199 for .. horse or cattle, 467.199 468.417 .. in the State of Colo[rado]. 467.956 468.705 GARY: [Oh]=. 468.705 470.611 JULIE: ... Regis[2tration2] -- 470.123 471.782 GARY: [2It's like re2]gistering a car. 471.782 472.882 JULIE: ... Right. 472.882 473.358 And [and] -- 473.125 473.980 GARY: [Or] or= uh, 473.980 475.189 ... not registering, 475.189 475.640 but uh, 475.640 476.762 (H) passing title. 476.762 477.279 JULIE: .. [Mhm. 476.866 477.525 GARY: [To a car]. 477.274 477.580 JULIE: An]d, 477.580 478.519 .. see the thing is, 478.519 479.415 what makes it good, 479.415 482.379 % is if you don't have a legal ... brand inspection? 482.379 484.324 ... On a horse when you take him to the auction, 484.324 485.444 you can't run him through the auction, 485.444 486.672 they will impound the horse. 486.672 487.323 GARY: [Wow]. 486.672 487.832 JULIE: [(H)]= So, 487.832 489.232 [2if somebody goes and forg2]es, 487.866 489.053 GARY: [2(WHISTLE)2] 489.232 491.407 JULIE: a little bill of sale that looks like this (Hx), 491.407 493.734 ... and steals a horse out of my pasture, 493.734 494.935 and takes it to the auction, 494.935 496.637 they're gonna impound the horse and check it out. 496.637 498.739 ... Look for identifying marks. 498.739 501.441 (H) .. A=nd .. not send that horse to the kil[lers]. 501.204 501.984 GARY: [Oh] okay. 501.984 502.559 .. Okay. 502.559 504.356 JULIE: That's why it's real im[portant]. 503.831 505.087 GARY: [(H)]= .. Yeah. 505.087 506.197 .. % How do you uh, 506.197 507.999 .. I guess you just look it up in the phone book, 507.999 508.651 for uh, 508.651 510.533 JULIE: ... Well you u[sually you can- you can -- 509.728 512.045 GARY: [Colorado State Department] of Agriculture or some[2thing2]. 510.533 510.914 JULIE: (H)] 511.764 513.135 [2I c2]an never find it in the phone book. 513.135 513.815 Call the vet. 513.815 515.018 All the vets know the num[ber. 514.712 515.018 GARY: [Vet, 515.018 516.660 JULIE: of the] .. brand inspector. 515.018 515.510 GARY: okay]. 516.660 518.197 JULIE: And I have it on file too. 518.197 519.203 His name is um, 519.203 521.992 ... our our current brand inspector is a real cutie. 521.992 522.480 Let's see. 522.480 523.338 What's his name. 523.338 524.540 ... ~Bart ~Zuckerman. 524.540 526.926 ... Is [our current] brand inspector. 525.839 526.339 GARY: [Okay]. 526.926 528.280 JULIE: And he lives right here in ~Colorado ~Springs. 528.280 528.805 GARY: Oh yeah? 528.805 529.376 [Hey]. 528.958 530.164 JULIE: It['s a ~five ~five] ~five number. 530.164 530.869 GARY: ... Okay. 530.869 532.867 JULIE: I had a hard time getting hold of him this time, 532.867 534.745 .. his % answering machine wasn't working. 534.745 537.338 GARY: ... Okay. 537.338 538.283 JULIE: ... But, 538.283 538.800 GARY: [(H)] 538.283 539.602 JULIE: [(H) he] is a cutie. 539.602 540.600 I mean he .. he's -- 540.600 542.325 He models for Shepler's magazine. 542.325 544.284 ... Really nice looking young fellow. 544.284 545.324 ... I don't know. 545.324 545.549 He's got- -- 545.549 546.900 I think he's got a couple kids. 546.900 547.985 ... (H) But, 547.985 548.876 very nice. 548.876 550.199 ... Polite cowboy type. 550.199 551.646 ... (TSK) 551.646 553.948 ... And on our [last -- 553.683 554.113 GARY: [Alright]. 553.923 556.454 JULIE: I] just get used to a brand inspector and they switch em on us. 556.454 557.454 GARY: @@@ 557.454 559.806 JULIE: ~Donald ~Bradbury was our brand inspector for years. 559.806 560.619 A=nd um, 560.619 561.841 ... I mean, 561.841 563.299 he knew me real well because I, 563.299 565.877 ... I'd go through seven eight horses a year out [here and], 565.273 565.877 GARY: [Wow]. 565.927 566.778 JULIE: (H) .. [2Well, 566.486 567.628 GARY: [2What do you what do you2] do here. 566.778 567.203 JULIE: cause I'm an2] -- 567.628 568.234 I'm an agent. 568.234 569.456 .. I teach riding lessons, 569.456 570.447 GARY: [Oh=]. 569.456 570.330 JULIE: [and I buy and sell, 570.330 571.055 and] I'm an [2agent. 570.663 571.581 GARY: [2Oh=2]. 571.055 571.384 JULIE: I'll -- 571.384 572.877 I'll2] find horses for people, 572.877 573.116 [3that3] - 572.900 573.671 GARY: [3O3]=kay. 573.671 575.237 JULIE: .. And .. so [4I act as an agent4]. 574.275 576.859 GARY: [4So you .. match a4] a a customer [5with a horse5]. 576.131 577.462 JULIE: [5Yeah it's sorta like a5] dating service. 577.462 578.042 [6It's wonder6]ful. 577.462 577.925 GARY: [6Yeah6]. 578.042 579.107 JULIE: It's really a [7lotta f7]un. 578.426 578.758 GARY: [7Yeah7]. 579.107 580.092 JULIE: [8(H) Yeah8]. 579.107 580.620 GARY: [8(H) So they8] know that, 580.620 581.878 ... that you can do this, 581.878 582.527 so they tell you, 582.527 582.777 hey, 582.777 584.253 I really need this kind of a [horse]. 583.821 584.253 JULIE: [Right]. 584.253 584.736 GARY: [2X2] 584.253 584.685 JULIE: [2Well % m- 2] -- 584.736 586.302 Most of the time it's my students? 586.302 587.756 .. And when they're ready to buy a horse, 587.756 588.015 GARY: [Yeah]. 587.756 589.078 JULIE: [then I] look for a horse for em? 589.078 589.413 GARY: [2Yeah2]. 589.158 590.660 JULIE: [2(H)2] Like with uh ~Peggy's horse, 590.660 592.964 I looked at twenty-eight horses in ten [3days. 592.571 593.140 GARY: [3(WHISTLE)3]. 592.964 595.403 JULIE: be3]fore I found the one that [4I thought would suit4] her. 594.373 595.216 GARY: [4(WHISTLE)4]. 595.403 597.378 JULIE: .. (H) And she's a wonderful horse. 597.378 599.411 ... And I didn't even dicker on the price for her. 599.411 601.112 Because I thought the price was so good. 601.112 601.445 GARY: M[hm]? 601.212 601.445 JULIE: [X] 601.445 603.171 And we paid twenty-five hundred for her. 603.171 605.221 (H) And she was a nine-year-old Anglo Arab, 605.221 606.174 ... Um, 606.174 607.636 about ... fifteen three, 607.636 608.671 ... (H) lovely mare. 608.671 610.675 She's cleaning up in competitive trail and, 610.675 612.497 and doing reasonably well at the shows. 612.497 614.629 ... And the mare's real cute, 614.629 615.479 takes good care of her, 615.479 616.192 she hunts her, 616.192 616.842 goes out to the, 616.842 618.835 ... the .. fox hunt and hunts her all winter? 618.835 619.426 GARY: Fox hunt. 619.426 620.090 JULIE: Yeah we hunt. 620.090 621.360 But we hunt coyotes in Colorado. 621.360 622.260 But we don't kill them. 622.260 623.743 ... We just chase [em]. 623.363 625.033 GARY: [W=]he=re[2's the fox hunt2]. 624.108 624.356 JULIE: [2But it, 624.356 624.856 we have2], 625.033 626.167 .. we have um, 626.167 627.246 GARY: ... My dad does [that]. 626.909 627.912 JULIE: [thir]ty-two, 627.912 629.389 ... u=m, 629.389 631.106 ... English foxhounds. 631.106 631.857 At our club. 631.857 632.394 GARY: Really. 632.394 632.745 JULIE: Out, 632.745 633.280 [uh it's at] -- 632.861 633.494 GARY: [What club is] that. 633.494 634.961 JULIE: (H) It's the Bijou Springs, 634.961 635.572 ... Bi- -- 635.572 636.282 ... No. 636.282 637.682 ... Bijou Hunt Club. 637.682 640.822 ... B- Bijou Springs Hunt Club I guess it's called. 640.822 643.000 .. And it's out at ... Bijou Springs Ranch, 643.000 646.360 X we lease .. twenty-thousand acres to hunt on [out there with the ken]nels. 645.245 645.987 GARY: [(WHISTLE)]. 646.360 649.980 JULIE: (H)= Costs us ... twelve-thousand six-hundred dollars a year for the lease, 649.980 651.450 ... for the right to hunt out there, 651.450 653.082 and have the clubhouse and the kennels. 653.082 655.351 .. (H) And it belongs to= (Hx), 655.351 657.728 ... think of his name. 657.728 659.540 ... Real rich guy. 659.540 661.514 (H) @ @He's got a hunting preserve-, 661.514 663.008 preserve on the place with elk and, 663.008 663.924 GARY: [Wo=w]. 663.008 664.894 JULIE: [(H) white-tail]ed deer and, 664.894 666.584 GARY: Where is [2Bijou Springs2]. 665.337 666.680 JULIE: [2he's getting moose now2]. 666.680 669.172 ... Oh= it's out .. close to Calhan. 669.172 670.700 ... It's [go=rgeous] country. 669.816 670.402 GARY: [Calhan]. 670.700 671.399 JULIE: It's lik=e, 671.399 672.777 ... northwest. 672.777 674.144 Just northwest of Calhan. 674.144 676.131 And it's beautiful beautiful country. 676.131 677.820 ... Way out there in nowhere. 677.820 678.364 GARY: Out wh- -- 678.364 679.595 Th- are there any trees out there? 679.595 680.094 [Or is it] -- 679.595 680.094 JULIE: []. 680.094 680.524 Yeah, 680.524 681.499 we have a lotta trees, 681.499 682.783 (H) We hunt through the trees, 682.783 684.558 and bounce off them from time to [time and], 684.039 685.694 GARY: [@@@]@@@@@ 685.694 686.247 (H)[2=2] 685.847 687.980 JULIE: [2(TSK)2] .. We have several sca=rs in this barn, 687.980 690.055 from people bouncing <@ off of trees @>. 690.055 690.992 GARY: ... Golly day. 690.992 692.399 JULIE: [(H) It's it's not] -- 690.992 692.900 GARY: [(H) That sounds like] fun though. 692.900 694.799 JULIE: ... It's no=t a sport for the timid. 694.799 697.282 ... You've gotta be .. pretty brave. 697.282 697.854 To do it. 697.854 698.812 (H) [Or stu]pid. 698.074 698.386 GARY: [Mm]. 698.812 701.640 JULIE: .. It's a it's % [2sport for either the brave or the @stu2]pid. 699.509 701.113 GARY: [2@@@@@2] 701.640 702.878 .. (H) I've [3never3] done it. 702.344 702.560 JULIE: [3@3] 702.878 703.735 GARY: My dad has done it. 703.735 704.417 JULIE: ... %W- -- 704.417 705.142 .. [the fo]x hunting? 704.540 704.822 GARY: [He's] -- 705.142 705.585 M[2hm2]. 705.361 706.072 JULIE: [2On hor2]seback? 706.072 706.419 GARY: Mm. 706.419 707.599 JULIE: ... Where at? 707.599 709.088 GARY: ... (TSK) (H) California? 709.088 710.297 Dow=n .. near uh, 710.297 711.507 JULIE: Do you know the name of the hunt? 711.507 712.062 GARY: ... No, 712.062 713.012 I don't know anything. 713.012 714.218 .. (H) .. Let's see. 714.218 715.347 ... (THROAT) 715.347 715.982 ... No. 715.982 718.791 ... All I .. I know where it is. 718.791 720.019 ... It's over near uh, 720.019 721.148 ... (THROAT) 721.148 722.354 .. (H) Palo Alto. 722.354 723.360 JULIE: ... Mhm? 723.360 724.000 ... Yeah. 724.000 725.600 I know there's a hunt out near Palo Alto, 725.600 726.506 I don't know the name [of it]. 726.184 726.447 GARY: [Yeah]. 726.506 728.347 JULIE: ... (H) Well let me show you my barn. 728.347 729.113 If you're interested? 729.113 729.538 GARY: Sure? 729.538 729.995 JULIE: .. I've -- 729.995 731.273 I've been out hunting for a rake, 731.273 732.025 but I found it. 732.025 734.578 ... Oh your brother's sitting in his ca=r (Hx). 734.578 735.944 ... [Why is he do]ing that. 735.165 735.649 GARY: [Oh=]. 735.944 737.321 JULIE: With his tape recorder sitting here. 737.321 738.121 GARY: I don't know. 738.121 738.859 ... He's uh, 738.859 741.488 (H)= He's just .. recording conversations. 741.488 742.240 JULIE: [@@@] 741.488 743.280 GARY: [So we'll just] keep it going here. 743.280 746.394 .. (H)= ... They're not .. for content, 746.394 749.127 they're doing it for= linguis[tic ... purposes]. 747.769 748.202 JULIE: [Right, 748.202 749.127 for linguistics]. 749.127 753.180 GARY: ... Making a m- .. massive database, 753.180 754.366 JULIE: ... Come on dogs. 754.366 756.342 ... Dogs. 756.342 756.742 Come on. 756.742 757.347 GARY: ... Come on. 757.347 757.944 JULIE: That's good. 757.944 758.545 That's enough. 758.545 759.007 GARY: Okay. 759.007 760.274 JULIE: Two dogs is enough at once. 760.274 761.760 ... @@ 761.760 765.236 ... Ask him if he'd like to come see the barn. 765.236 765.937 GARY: ... ~Matt? 765.937 767.935 ... You wanna see the barn? 767.935 768.952 MATT: ... Sure. 768.952 770.614 GARY: ... Let me give you this[=]. 770.464 772.524 JULIE: [I] didn't know you'd come out to sit in your car. 772.524 773.454 MATT: ... Oh, 773.454 775.204 ... just taking it easy here. 775.204 775.487 Yeah? 775.487 776.292 GARY: .. [] -- 775.991 776.894 MATT: [So you got] a new barn? 776.894 777.894 O=r a o[2ld barn2]. 777.344 777.894 JULIE: [2XX2] 777.894 778.876 ... . 778.876 785.134 ... The barn's new XX. 785.134 786.412 GARY: ... that's a big dog. 786.412 787.277 .. Or is this a horse. 787.277 787.786 JULIE: .. Puppy. 787.786 788.613 MATT: @[@@] 788.073 788.653 GARY: [Pony]. 788.653 789.608 JULIE: .. It's a puppy. 789.608 790.188 GARY: .. X>, 790.188 791.770 ... What kind is he. 791.770 793.082 JULIE: ... XX 793.082 793.907 He's a Great Dane. 793.907 794.608 GARY: .. Great Dane. 794.608 797.743 JULIE: ... He was left starving and sick at my vet's clinic for -- 797.743 803.891 ... pretty bad shape, 803.891 809.192 ... They picked him up and I adopted him from the Humane Society (Hx). 809.192 810.631 .. He weighed .. seventy-two pounds, 810.631 812.084 and now he weighs a hundred and . 812.084 814.059 ... XXX .. Christmas gift. 814.059 814.823 GARY: @@[@] 814.590 816.068 MATT: [Seventy] two poun[2ds2]? 814.624 815.004 JULIE: [He] -- 815.623 816.977 [2He2] got me [3for Christmas3]. 816.230 817.307 MATT: [3I can't imagine3] that dog, 817.307 818.365 GARY: @@@[4@4] 818.118 819.270 MATT: [4weighing4] seven[5ty-two pounds5]. 818.549 819.533 GARY: [5Seventy-two5]=? 819.533 820.428 JULIE: ... And [6now he's -- 819.864 821.295 GARY: [6He must've had a lotta ribs showing6]. 820.428 821.295 JULIE: (H) He was6] -- 821.295 821.676 .. Oh, 821.676 823.026 you could see his hips, 823.026 823.478 every, 823.478 824.816 every bone in his sp[ine], 824.666 825.365 GARY: [Mm]=. 825.365 825.939 MATT: So what were -- 825.939 826.831 What was happening to him? 826.831 827.700 .. [XX] 827.031 828.385 JULIE: [Well he had rea]l bad diarrhea, 828.385 829.805 and h=e hadn't been fed properly, 829.805 831.104 and he didn't have the right nutrition, 831.104 833.038 so hopefully he won't get to the size he should. 833.038 833.517 GARY: .. @(Hx) 833.517 834.967 JULIE: Hopefully he's [almost full]-grown. 834.067 834.530 MATT: [@(Hx)] 834.967 835.667 .. @Yeah[2=2]. 835.380 835.858 JULIE: [2Cause2], 835.858 838.965 cause male Great Danes can get upwards of a hundred and seventy-five pounds. 838.965 839.498 GARY: .. Mm. 839.498 841.508 JULIE: ... And I don't want him to get that big. 841.508 842.705 . 842.705 844.579 ... That's Hap. 844.579 847.354 ... He's one of those thoroughbreds. 847.354 847.834 MATT: .. Yeah? 847.834 849.488 JULIE: ... He's a boarder. 849.488 851.100 ... I now [own] -- 850.640 850.992 GARY: [XXX? 850.992 851.667 What] does that mean. 851.667 852.457 JULIE: He boards here. 852.457 853.308 ... I bo[ard] -- 853.109 853.739 GARY: [Oh] oh oh. 853.739 854.106 JULIE: Yeah. 854.106 856.731 ... I only own five of em now, 856.731 858.291 and two of them are .. somewhere else, 858.291 859.266 cause I don't have room for em. 859.266 861.967 ... My mare and foal are down the hill. 861.967 862.887 GARY: ... What is that. 862.887 863.607 JULIE: It's a granary, 863.607 865.420 it holds about four-thousand pounds of gr[ain]. 865.155 866.779 GARY: [Oh]==. 866.779 867.379 Wow=. 867.379 867.913 JULIE: . 867.913 868.625 .. I [have] -- 868.302 870.160 GARY: [I've never] seen anybody had one of those at a barn. 870.160 873.990 JULIE: .. Well I feed ... between twenty and .. twenty-five horses all year round. 873.990 875.342 GARY: .. (WHISTLE)[=] 874.612 876.268 JULIE: [So I can't buy it] by the sack. 876.268 877.113 GARY: ... (Hx) 877.113 878.457 JULIE: ... [I go through] -- 877.827 878.973 MATT: [ have trucks] come out here. 878.973 880.927 JULIE: ... Yeah I go through about three-hundred pounds a day. 880.927 883.582 GARY: ... @@ [@Oh]= ma=n. 881.810 882.364 MATT: [@@] 883.582 885.139 JULIE: .. I go through= ten, 885.139 886.088 GARY: In[credible]. 885.446 887.656 JULIE: [(H) Ten to] twe=lve tons of hay a month. 887.656 889.612 ... Roughly, 889.612 891.952 ten to twelve thousand dollars a year of hay. 891.952 894.107 GARY: .. You must have been .. hurting this last season. 894.107 894.493 Hunh? 894.493 895.137 JULIE: No actually, 895.137 896.712 my hay supplier was . 896.712 897.994 GARY: ... How did you do that. 897.994 899.796 ... I mean it [was hard for everybody]. 898.520 899.428 JULIE: [I've been buying hay, 899.428 901.118 I've been] buying hay from Bartlett's, 901.118 902.585 fo=r six years now. 902.585 903.797 ... and I don't -- 903.797 905.415 I'm not his biggest customer, 905.415 907.421 ... [but I've been re]al steady and real loyal, 905.864 906.266 GARY: [We had a r-] -- 907.421 909.503 JULIE: and I've ... referred him to a lotta people. 909.503 911.334 ... A=nd um, 911.334 911.918 GARY: We had a lotta, 911.918 912.524 .. we had a, 912.524 913.926 JULIE: He kept [my hay price] -- 913.043 914.428 GARY: [shortage of hay=] this year. 914.428 915.359 Because of uh, 915.359 915.608 JULIE: He -- 915.608 916.002 Yeah. 916.002 917.328 GARY: It was the floods [out in] -- 916.727 917.931 JULIE: [(H) But] see he know=s how much -- 917.931 918.980 he b=uys a lotta hay, 918.980 919.745 he's a broker. 919.745 920.642 ... And he buys hay, 920.642 922.563 (H) And actually I usually get the Wyoming hay, 922.563 923.825 and it got ruined in the rain (Hx). 923.825 925.133 So I was getting West Cliff hay, 925.133 926.379 which I don't think is quite as good, 926.379 927.031 it's good. 927.031 928.142 (H) But not quite [as good]. 927.733 928.142 GARY: [Unhunh], 928.142 931.371 JULIE: (H) But he kept my hay price down to a hundred and twenty-five dollars a to=n. 931.371 932.568 GARY: Which [is .. how much], 931.553 932.782 JULIE: [(H) All (Hx) win]ter. 932.782 933.838 Delivered and stacked (Hx). 933.838 934.542 GARY: Wow=. 934.542 935.113 [] -- 934.706 935.740 JULIE: [Which is real]ly good [2(Hx)2]. 935.569 937.261 GARY: [2What does2] that boil down to per .. [3bale3]. 936.803 938.392 JULIE: [3Well he was3] selling it to= other people, 938.392 939.417 that .. came and picked it up, 939.417 940.767 for a hundred and sixty-five (Hx). 940.767 941.901 ... A ton. 941.901 944.603 ... But I get twenty-two= to twenty-five tons at a time. 944.603 946.155 GARY: ... (WHISTLE)[=] 945.982 947.518 JULIE: [He just] brings a semi-load in here. 947.518 948.069 GARY: I'll bet. 948.069 950.080 ... What does that .. b[oil down to per b]ale. 949.154 949.869 JULIE: [There's Shiba]. 950.080 950.480 GARY: Do you know? 950.480 951.429 ... [No]. 951.055 951.529 JULIE: [No]= it -- 951.529 952.488 .. It's roughly, 952.488 954.303 ... anywhere from twenty-eight to thirty, 954.303 955.704 ... um, 955.704 957.479 ... bales per .. ton. 957.479 958.273 ... But, 958.273 959.348 I always buy by the ton, 959.348 961.348 because then I know how much feed I have. 961.348 961.956 GARY: ... [Yeah]. 961.735 962.114 JULIE: [You] know, 962.114 962.864 when you buy this much, 962.864 963.789 you can't go by the bale. 963.789 964.896 [It's= kinda s]illy. 963.789 964.168 GARY: [Yeah=, 964.168 964.503 right]. 964.896 966.118 JULIE: (H)[2=2] See there's Shiba. 964.996 965.217 GARY: [2Yeah2]. 966.118 968.102 ... ? 968.102 969.280 JULIE: ... (CLICK_CLICK_CLICK_CLICK) 969.280 969.987 .. . 969.987 970.514 GARY: (WHISTLE)[=] 970.189 971.244 JULIE: [((CLAP]_CLAP_CLAP)) 971.244 972.419 ... Are you sleepy? 972.419 975.971 ... And that's her boyfriend Beamer. 975.971 978.386 ... He's so -- 978.386 979.242 He's so happy, 979.242 981.753 he thinks he has a whole mare herd [now to protec]t. 980.623 981.404 GARY: [Al=righ=t]. 981.753 982.644 MATT: ... Hm. 982.644 984.796 JULIE: She's been in high heat the last couple days. 984.796 985.461 MATT: @@ 985.461 987.200 JULIE: ... He thinks that's wonderful. 987.200 988.566 GARY: ... Shiba's been in heat? 988.566 989.150 JULIE: Oh yeah. 989.150 989.925 See how she -- 989.925 990.680 See what she's doing? 990.680 991.800 ... Squirting on him. 991.800 993.177 GARY: Oh[= yu=ck]. 992.200 993.256 JULIE: [Miserable old mare]. 993.256 994.481 @@@@@@ 994.481 995.285 .. He likes it, 995.285 997.264 ... This one's in heat too, 997.264 998.564 and he won't pay any attention to her, 998.564 999.620 and she's really frustrated. 999.620 1001.265 ... Cause poor mare, 1001.265 1003.112 she's been off her feet for two days because, 1003.112 1004.466 ... Beamer rushes the fence, 1004.466 1005.591 and b=ears his teeth, 1005.591 1005.816 and, 1005.816 1007.274 ... pins his ears at her, 1007.274 1008.284 ... because he d- -- 1008.284 1010.860 He .. doesn't want her to get next to his mare. 1010.860 1012.728 He keeps himself between his mare and, 1012.728 1013.476 .. and that one, 1013.476 1015.901 who might threaten (H) his mare herd. 1015.901 1017.255 GARY: @@@[@@] 1016.777 1018.280 JULIE: [He's really] a funny character. 1018.280 1019.733 (H) I give lessons on him too, 1019.733 1020.794 he's privately owned but, 1020.794 1022.203 (H) his owner doesn't ride him much. 1022.203 1023.120 And he's real gentle. 1023.120 1024.120 ... He um, 1024.120 1025.376 [he was sh]own out in California, 1024.120 1024.526 GARY: [XX] 1025.376 1025.615 JULIE: He -- 1025.615 1027.638 .. he rides Western English and drives. 1027.638 1028.384 He pull[s a cart]. 1027.913 1028.328 GARY: [Wow]. 1028.384 1030.346 JULIE: ... And he's just as cute as can be. 1030.346 1031.180 He's a little Morgan. 1031.180 1032.934 GARY: They're ... identical color aren't they? 1032.934 1033.434 JULIE: Unhunh? 1033.434 1038.726 ... And she's just su=re that this one's going to be it. 1038.726 1041.281 ... (H) [Actually h]e's doing better than my stallion. 1039.314 1039.968 GARY: [Wow]. 1041.281 1042.724 JULIE: My stallion can't get it figured out. 1042.724 1043.916 @=@@@[@@ 1043.534 1044.561 GARY: [@@@@] 1043.916 1045.199 JULIE: (H) He's only] three @. 1045.199 1047.947 ... (H) And we ... tried breeding him to a mare the other day, 1047.947 1049.133 and she was going out of heat, 1049.133 1049.776 wasn't very strong, 1049.776 1051.695 And he was just a lot more interested in the Gelding next to her, 1051.695 1051.945 and I said, 1051.945 1053.720 this is what I need is a [gay stallion. 1052.842 1055.640 GARY: [@@@@@@][2@@@@2][3@ (SNIFF)3] 1053.720 1055.640 JULIE: (H)] [2@=@@@@2][3@@3] 1054.104 1055.126 MATT: [2@@@@2] 1055.640 1056.748 GARY: .. <@ A gay stallion @>. 1056.748 1057.880 JULIE: ... Oh I said, 1057.880 1058.145 about gelding him. 1059.820 1061.033 And he'll keep= his pretty coat, 1061.033 1062.511 you know we just won't worry about him. 1062.511 1064.454 ... And he's real even tempered but. 1064.454 1065.800 % We just had his first foal. 1065.800 1067.760 He did manage to breed my old mare last year. 1067.760 1069.561 But she's r=eally experienced. 1069.561 1072.137 (H) And I just turned em out to pasture together for three days, 1072.137 1073.930 (H) .. and she was patient with him. 1073.930 1074.356 MATT: .. Hm. 1074.356 1076.306 JULIE: (H) But [then he fell in love with her and it was -- 1074.881 1077.567 >HORSE: [(WHINNY)=]= 1076.306 1077.217 JULIE: ... He was] -- 1077.567 1078.097 .. Um, 1078.097 1079.171 ... what do you call it. 1079.171 1080.850 ... He only wanted the one mare. 1080.850 1082.533 .. He wouldn't look at any of the others last year. 1082.533 1084.246 So we didn't get anybody else bred last year. 1084.246 1086.155 But two is a little young to be asking anything. 1086.155 1086.880 Watch this now. 1086.880 1087.619 Watch him rush . 1088.620 1090.097 ... . 1090.097 1093.148 ... See and her buddy, 1093.148 1093.879 ... um, 1093.879 1094.851 the reason she's here, 1094.851 1095.442 this black mare, 1095.442 1096.650 she's here for board and training, 1096.650 1098.226 she hadn't been ridden in five years. 1098.226 1099.793 ... And her um, 1099.793 1101.695 ... pal of ten ye-, 1101.695 1103.811 ten years had to be put down a few weeks ago. 1103.811 1106.653 ... He just was so crippled up and old [and], 1106.329 1106.629 GARY: [Mm]. 1106.653 1107.637 JULIE: s=uffering and, 1107.637 1109.857 (H) she didn't want .. to keep the mare at home, 1109.857 1111.557 after .. they put the other horse down, 1111.557 1113.093 cause .. she figured she'd get frantic. 1113.093 1114.795 So she came here to have more friends. 1114.795 1116.198 ... To make friend[s]. 1115.894 1116.298 GARY: [Yeah]=. 1116.298 1118.224 JULIE: ... Well [2these are2] -- 1117.861 1119.286 GARY: [2So what did2] you do to your arena. 1119.286 1120.264 JULIE: ... (H) U=m, 1120.264 1122.445 ... well last year I put in a whole new ring. 1122.445 1124.516 I spent about three thousand dollars leveling it? 1124.516 1125.780 Because it wasn't quite level, 1125.780 1125.995 I -- 1125.995 1128.275 .. I'd had it ... leveled when I moved here, 1128.275 1129.520 but it w- .. really wasn't level? 1129.520 1129.872 GARY: [Mhm]? 1129.520 1131.180 JULIE: [(H)] And the sand that I had in it .. % -- 1131.180 1133.083 There was natural sand in it when I bought the place, 1133.083 1134.823 (H) It had all washed down the road, 1134.823 1137.091 and I p- think Kettle Creek scooped it up and put it in their ring, 1137.091 1139.946 (H)[= So=] it was hard .. as a rock. 1137.515 1138.540 GARY: [] 1139.946 1141.146 JULIE: And it kept washing out. 1141.146 1142.364 And it was terrible and, 1142.364 1143.786 .. like riding on asphalt. 1143.786 1144.446 So (Hx), 1144.446 1145.363 I had, 1145.363 1147.198 GARY: ... Well you were probably down to the hardpack. 1147.198 1148.775 JULIE: ... I was down to clay. 1148.775 1149.299 GARY: [Mm=]. 1148.775 1150.823 JULIE: [(H)] An=d I had Havens come out, 1150.823 1151.098 and -- 1151.098 1151.862 with a bulldozer. 1151.862 1152.875 And he leveled the whole thing, 1152.875 1155.185 he took a who=le bunch out of this corner you can see, 1155.185 1155.503 GARY: [Yeah. 1155.185 1157.106 JULIE: [(H) And p]ut it down in that corner. 1155.503 1155.898 GARY: .. Yeah]. 1157.106 1158.202 JULIE: (H) A=nd, 1158.202 1159.826 it just ... was a lot nicer. 1159.826 1160.564 And then I had, 1160.564 1163.879 ... three-hundred tons of sand brought in and @spread. 1163.879 1164.331 GARY: [(WHISTLE)] 1163.879 1165.506 JULIE: [(H)] It was great in the winter time? 1165.506 1166.349 When it was all frozen, 1166.349 1168.049 and I had this much soft stuff on top? 1168.049 1169.407 (H) but when it thawed, 1169.407 1170.766 (H) we couldn't ride in it, 1170.766 1171.616 it was this deep. 1171.616 1172.220 GARY: Oh=. 1172.220 1173.133 JULIE: It was ho=rrid. 1173.133 1174.459 And [the horses have had a] hard time. 1173.299 1173.955 GARY: [Too much], 1174.459 1175.474 JULIE: (H) So today -- 1175.474 1177.752 Finally it's been dry enough for Tad to come out and, 1177.752 1179.150 ... and take the rest of the sand off. 1179.150 1179.959 And I sold [it to him], 1179.568 1180.862 GARY: [Oh he was t]aking it [2ou=t2]. 1180.337 1182.377 JULIE: [2(H)2] He was [3taking it ou=t3]. 1181.248 1181.702 GARY: [3Oh okay, 1181.702 1183.002 I saw the big3] d=ump[4truck4]. 1182.702 1183.700 JULIE: [4(H)4] Yeah. 1183.700 1183.950 Well, 1183.950 1185.666 that was Havens was taking it out. 1185.666 1185.971 Um, 1185.971 1186.903 Orville Havens. 1186.903 1188.247 ... a=nd uh his son. 1188.247 1189.132 Which I can't remember his name. 1189.132 1189.836 Starts with an el. 1189.836 1190.695 Lenny or s[omething. 1190.445 1192.509 GARY: [And he was taking it to= someplace else]. 1190.695 1191.478 JULIE: Lenny and Orville. 1191.478 1193.491 (H) He was taking it] to= one of my students, 1193.491 1194.997 who lives .. on the road behind me, 1194.997 1196.745 [who put in a ring] but didn't have any sand y[2et. 1194.997 1195.600 GARY: [Okay]. 1196.616 1197.220 [2O=kay2]. 1196.745 1198.007 JULIE: (H) So2] she got a great deal. 1198.007 1199.597 She got about a third of my sand, 1199.597 1201.452 (H) that I paid (Hx), 1201.452 1203.652 twelve or thirteen-hundred dollars for delivered, 1203.652 1204.755 (H) and she got it a-, 1204.755 1205.737 got about a third of it, 1205.737 1207.340 for about two-hundred and fifty bucks. 1207.340 1208.314 GARY: Hey= that's good. 1208.314 1210.554 JULIE: ... And so it was a lot cheaper [than if she'd] bought it, 1209.735 1210.235 GARY: [Yeah]. 1210.554 1211.591 JULIE: cause I only charged her, 1211.591 1212.900 (H) a buck (Hx), 1212.900 1213.888 ... a buck a ton, 1213.888 1214.974 which is what I paid for it. 1214.974 1216.742 But then I had to pay a lot more to have it hauled in. 1216.742 1217.234 GARY: .. [Yeah]. 1216.802 1218.638 JULIE: [(H)] The hauling is what costs so much. 1218.638 1220.040 ... [22] -- 1219.644 1220.345 GARY: [2So uh2]=, 1220.345 1221.653 ... yeah, 1221.653 1222.103 you know, 1222.103 1224.174 ... My, 1224.174 1225.678 my arena isn't very .. level. 1225.678 1229.558 JULIE: ... (H) Well it cost her a lot less to level hers, 1229.558 1230.724 but it wasn't as big as mine, 1230.724 1232.187 or as ... unlevel. 1232.187 1234.544 ... This is my tractor. 1234.544 1237.986 ... It's masquerading as an Isuzu. 1237.986 1239.540 But .. [it really is my] tractor. 1238.221 1238.944 GARY: [@@@] 1239.540 1240.671 Foggy meadows. 1240.671 1243.519 JULIE: ... My handyman did that. 1243.519 1244.556 I haven't seen him for a while, 1244.556 1245.332 I think he quit. 1245.332 1246.081 And didn't tell me. 1246.081 1248.655 ... That's my roommate -- 1248.655 1249.960 One of my roommate's horses is here, 1249.960 1250.904 , 1250.904 1251.744 .. he's hiding. 1251.744 1252.822 ... And then, 1252.822 1253.684 this is the field -- 1253.684 1254.979 This is what we call the witch field, 1254.979 1256.041 the mares live out there, 1256.041 1257.518 they get turned out there during the day, 1257.518 1259.602 ... and then .. that's the gelding field, 1259.602 1261.287 and my stallion lives out with the geldings, 1261.287 1263.741 ... And Bru=ge stands here half the day wanting to come in, 1263.741 1265.533 and then after he goes in he wants to go out. 1265.533 1266.541 GARY: .. @@@ .. @ 1266.541 1268.763 JULIE: He's like a lotta people's children in the winter time. 1268.763 1270.841 GARY: The mare field and the gelding field. 1270.841 1271.735 JULIE: .. And the Chestnut -- 1271.735 1273.194 You see a dark grey on this side? 1273.194 1275.074 And then a chestnut .. with his tail to us, 1275.074 1275.852 GARY: ... Yeah. 1275.852 1277.604 JULIE: The chestnut is my stallion (Hx). 1277.604 1279.093 .. And he's just as mellow as -- 1279.093 1281.452 (H) .. He's mellower than most geldings. 1281.452 1282.308 He's a sweetheart. 1282.308 1284.798 ... A=nd the mare and baby, 1284.798 1285.658 are .. up the road, 1285.658 1286.405 a half mile, 1286.405 1288.469 ... If you go .. through the .. gateposts? 1288.469 1290.073 Th- where it says Stray Winds Two? 1290.073 1292.395 (H) And just go through there and look to your left, 1292.395 1293.137 there's a pasture. 1293.137 1295.847 And I've got the mare and baby up there in a [seven-acre] pasture. 1294.571 1295.100 GARY: [Wow]. 1295.847 1297.538 JULIE: ... And [2we've got2] -- 1297.147 1297.538 GARY: [2

2]. 1297.805 1299.593 JULIE: ... Right now we're down to twenty horses here. 1299.593 1300.579 Which is great (Hx). 1300.579 1301.280 ... And then, 1301.280 1304.590 (H) my roommate's old horse is going out to pasture the first of the month too. 1304.590 1305.446 ... He's um, 1305.446 1306.679 ... had a real rough year, 1306.679 1307.544 he had cancer, 1307.544 1308.052 a=nd, 1308.052 1309.520 ... he lost one eye, 1309.520 1310.745 and the other eye is going blind, 1310.745 1312.764 and this'll probably be his last summer [and (Hx)], 1312.347 1312.714 GARY: [Mm]. 1312.764 1314.071 JULIE: she's not riding him a whole lot. 1314.071 1315.017 But he's still pretty happy. 1315.017 1318.120 .. (H) So we'll put him out to pasture and let him eat grass for a summer, 1318.120 1318.557 and (Hx), 1318.557 1319.761 see how he is in the fall. 1319.761 1321.597 ... And if he's (Hx), 1321.597 1322.334 if he's (Hx), 1322.334 1325.232 (H) looks like he's gonna lose the sight in the other eye totally, 1325.232 1326.707 we'll put him down in the fall (Hx). 1326.707 1328.554 I'm not gonna let him wander around blind (Hx). 1328.554 1329.783 ... It's not fair to him. 1329.783 1332.707 ... He's been a grand horse. 1332.707 1337.078 ... But none of ours go to the killers at the end of their life (Hx). 1337.078 1338.217 GARY: ... Where do they go. 1338.217 1339.517 JULIE: ... They get put down, 1339.517 1341.281 and then either buried or just hauled off (Hx). 1341.281 1343.200 ... (H) But we put em down at home. 1343.200 1345.081 ... (TSK) I don't -- 1345.081 1348.022 I don't put them through ... going out to the sale and, 1348.022 1349.869 (H) being menh- manhandled, 1349.869 1351.269 and stuck in semi trucks, 1351.269 1353.063 and scared to death at the l- end of their lives. 1353.063 1353.720 I just (Hx), 1353.720 1354.177 GARY: [Hm]. 1353.720 1354.945 JULIE: [(H)] don't believe in that. 1354.945 1356.925 That's probably why I'll .. always be poor (Hx). 1356.925 1359.123 ... (H) But I do a lotta horse rescue. 1359.123 1360.427 I've bought a lot from the killers. 1360.427 1360.705 Um, 1360.705 1361.209 in fact, 1361.209 1363.780 .. this black horse ... of my roommate's came from, 1363.780 1365.534 .. he was going to the killer's four years ago. 1365.534 1366.863 ... Not this one. 1366.863 1368.605 The one that ... is b- .. blind now. 1368.605 1371.086 ... And he was considered a killer. 1371.086 1372.543 ... An unmanageable. 1372.543 1374.617 ... And he's been perfectly lovely, 1374.617 1376.120 I give the little kids lessons on him. 1376.120 1376.477 GARY: .. Hm. 1376.477 1378.307 JULIE: ... So, 1378.307 1381.092 I've had him ... four years. 1381.092 1382.972 .. Sold him to my roommate a couple years ago, 1382.972 1384.614 it was her ... second horse. 1384.614 1386.239 ... A=nd uh, 1386.239 1388.310 ... they've cleaned up in competitive trail and, 1388.310 1389.635 just had a great time and, 1389.635 1391.240 ... fox hunted him and, 1391.240 1392.344 (H)[= He's] just real game, 1391.515 1391.801 GARY: [Hm]. 1392.344 1393.240 JULIE: He's a purebred Arabian. 1393.240 1394.045 All bla=ck. 1394.045 1395.907 ... And he's just great. 1395.907 1396.840 ... A=nd uh, 1396.840 1399.062 an- .. nother one I s=aved from the killers, 1399.062 1399.821 three years ago, 1399.821 1403.182 ... the l=ight chestnut with the blond tail swishing at us? 1403.182 1403.640 GARY: .. Yeah. 1403.640 1404.750 JULIE: ... He's a mustang. 1404.750 1407.217 And he was four years old going to the killers out at Calhan, 1407.217 1409.415 (H) ... and he was way down on the sales list, 1409.415 1410.372 and he was pretty spooky. 1410.372 1411.207 ... So I m- -- 1411.207 1412.495 I had eight horses at the time, 1412.495 1413.924 so I made one of my customers buy him. 1413.924 1415.780 ... I said he's . 1416.680 1417.810 @(Hx) @@@@@ 1417.810 1418.278 GARY: (@Hx) 1418.278 1419.034 JULIE: (H) And he did. 1419.034 1420.502 ... And he's absolutely lovely, 1420.502 1422.234 and he now belongs to a sixteen-year-old girl, 1422.234 1423.137 who competes him in, 1423.137 1424.020 (H) hunter jumper, 1424.020 1425.450 GARY: [Gee=s]. 1424.224 1424.984 JULIE: [, 1424.984 1426.076 (H) and] she hunts him. 1426.076 1427.143 GARY: ... That's [2great2]. 1426.635 1427.771 JULIE: [2And she does2] dressage on him. 1427.771 1428.592 And he jumps great, 1428.592 1429.299 he does dressage, 1429.299 1430.502 he does everything you ask him to do, 1430.502 1431.225 except drive. 1431.225 1432.846 (H) We tried driving @him, 1432.846 1434.404 ... (H)[= I used to h- h-] -- 1433.343 1434.404 GARY: [Driving as i=n], 1434.404 1435.083 ... putting -- 1435.083 1435.741 loading him? 1435.741 1437.677 JULIE: ... Driving him with a cart. 1437.677 1438.258 GARY: ... Oh. 1438.258 1439.073 With a cart. 1439.073 1440.197 JULIE: .. @@@@[@] 1439.898 1440.148 GARY: [mean], 1440.148 1441.220 making [2pull a wagon2]. 1440.570 1441.616 JULIE: [2(H)2] .. Yes, 1441.616 1442.498 mak[3ing him pull a cart3]. 1441.828 1442.433 GARY: [3Oh= okay3]. 1442.498 1443.217 [4Okay=. 1442.498 1444.481 JULIE: [4(H) Well we did a=ll the gr4]oundwork. 1443.217 1443.996 GARY: (H) 4] -- 1444.481 1446.250 JULIE: This horse was doing great on the ground, 1446.250 1447.057 we'd harnessed him, 1447.057 1448.342 We'd been doing for two years. 1448.342 1448.606 You know, 1448.606 1449.581 let's break this horse to drive. 1449.581 1450.462 Cause he's part Belgian. 1450.462 1451.154 He's pretty cute. 1451.154 1452.487 .. He's about a quarter Belgian. 1452.487 1454.693 (H) And he came from around Reno Nevada. 1454.693 1455.906 ... A=nd uh, 1455.906 1457.086 so we did all the groundwork, 1457.086 1458.557 just had a great time with him, 1458.557 1461.346 (H) a=nd I had this guy come out that drives Belgians and, 1461.346 1463.499 ... and he was gonna ... put in fence posts, 1463.499 1464.588 but the ground was too frozen. 1464.588 1464.831 So, 1464.831 1466.648 (H) he said , 1466.648 1467.734 and I told him about this horse, 1467.734 1468.754 he said let me see this horse. 1468.754 1469.634 And he had Belgians, 1469.634 1470.194 he said wow, 1470.194 1471.544 he does look like a baby Belgian. 1471.544 1472.260 He's real cute. 1472.260 1474.744 [(H)] And he [2asked me what I'd2] done to him and, 1472.260 1472.635 GARY: [@(Hx)] 1473.297 1473.910 [2Baby Bel-2] -- 1474.744 1475.441 JULIE: a=nd I said well, 1475.441 1476.541 we've done a=ll this groundwork, 1476.541 1477.947 we've drug a drag with him, 1477.947 1478.865 and he's doing really good-. 1478.865 1480.869 (H) So he ... put the harness on, 1480.869 1481.932 checked it all out for me, 1481.932 1482.912 cause I don't know .. as, 1482.912 1483.757 ... that much about it, 1483.757 1485.276 which is why I'd never hooked him to a cart. 1485.276 1486.427 We just played on the ground. 1486.427 1487.831 (H) A=nd um, 1487.831 1488.438 he said well, 1488.438 1489.506 everything's good he=re, 1489.506 1490.356 and he drove him around, 1490.356 1491.047 put the drag on him, 1491.047 1491.392 he said oh=, 1491.392 1492.492 this horse is ready to drive, 1492.492 1493.240 I said are you sure? 1493.240 1494.650 (H) I said when this horse @spooks, 1494.650 1496.650 <@ it's a pretty tremendous spook @>. 1496.650 1496.973 GARY: Hm. 1496.973 1499.229 JULIE: ... @(H) . 1499.229 1500.140 (H) He said . 1501.547 1502.971 (H) .. He hooked him to the cart, 1502.971 1504.181 ... He got in, 1504.181 1504.972 told me let go, 1504.972 1506.206 I stepped back two steps, 1506.206 1507.726 the horse took two steps, 1507.726 1508.712 ... bucked, 1508.712 1510.721 (H) kicked the guy out of the cart, 1510.721 1511.541 (H) took off, 1511.541 1512.545 the barn door was open. 1512.545 1514.260 This used to be set up a little differently. 1514.260 1515.004 (H) [Um], 1514.610 1515.004 GARY: [(Hx)] 1515.004 1516.740 JULIE: this fence went straight across and, 1516.740 1517.940 this was one big field? 1517.940 1519.500 .. (H) And I had a different gate. 1519.500 1520.351 ... Because, 1520.351 1521.363 h=e destroyed it. 1521.363 1523.367 (H) He @came @out the end of the barn, 1523.367 1526.577 .. (H) .. jumped ... a four-and-a-half-foot g[ate], 1526.067 1527.022 GARY: [@(Hx)]@(Hx) 1527.022 1528.104 JULIE: ... The cart of course, 1528.104 1529.137 smashed the gate. 1529.137 1531.399 ... And he went tearing around this whole field, 1531.399 1532.719 with all the other horses in here, 1532.719 1534.538 (H)= for probably ten minutes. 1534.538 1535.448 And he jumped, 1535.448 1536.500 GARY: With .. paraphernalia, 1536.500 1537.933 ... probably straps hanging to him, 1537.933 1538.248 [right]? 1537.933 1538.188 JULIE: [No]. 1538.248 1539.887 ... The cart was still attached. 1539.887 1541.176 GARY: @(Hx)[@@ 1540.689 1542.720 JULIE: []. 1541.176 1543.201 GARY: (H) <@ The cart went through the] .. gate @>? 1543.201 1544.619 [2(H) .. @Gee2]. 1543.201 1544.988 JULIE: [2(H) The c- % the cart went2] through the gate, 1544.988 1546.099 [3knocked the gate flat3]. 1545.069 1546.103 GARY: [3(H)=3] 1546.099 1546.258 JULIE: %I- -- 1546.258 1548.433 [It was one of the alum]inum type- .. type gates, 1546.332 1547.233 GARY: [@=@@@] 1548.433 1549.150 JULIE: [2like that little one2]? 1548.433 1549.150 GARY: [2(H)=2] 1549.150 1550.158 JULIE: Only it was the big [3one? 1549.914 1550.360 GARY: [3Yeah3]. 1550.158 1551.326 JULIE: (H)3]= And it was flat, 1551.326 1551.968 it was mushed, 1551.968 1553.140 that's why I had to get a new gate. 1553.140 1554.458 (H) [A=nd uh=], 1553.859 1554.451 GARY: [Incredible]. 1554.458 1556.062 JULIE: well I've replaced fences since then. 1556.062 1557.221 (H) But he went tearing around, 1557.221 1558.638 scared all the other horses to death, 1558.638 1560.497 and there was a section down there which, 1560.497 1562.686 ... used to be a part of a fence, 1562.686 1563.323 You can see it. 1563.323 1564.096 See the part tha- -- 1564.096 1566.231 .. It just makes kind of a [upside]-down U? 1565.216 1565.599 GARY: [Yeah]. 1566.231 1566.440 [2Yeah2]. 1566.231 1567.720 JULIE: [2(H)2] He jumped that with the cart too, 1567.720 1568.569 and knocked it over, 1568.569 1568.833 I mean, 1568.833 1569.510 he cleared it. 1569.510 1571.547 (H) But the ... cart knocked it over. 1571.547 1573.160 (H) And sent that all flying. 1573.160 1576.365 ... A=nd finally the cart='s wheels got smashed enough, 1576.365 1578.255 that it just wasn't dragging too well @anymore, 1578.255 1579.455 <@ and he was dragging @> dead weight. 1579.455 1579.758 And he fi-, 1579.758 1581.292 he stopped up on top of this hill, 1581.292 1583.325 (H)[= and I was going h]=o=ly cow, 1581.655 1582.474 GARY: [Golly day]. 1583.325 1583.845 JULIE: And in the meantime-, 1583.845 1585.567 I had a little mini about this big that was out there, 1585.567 1587.452 and he got trampled by .. the other horses. 1587.452 1588.103 He [was okay]. 1587.660 1588.064 GARY: [Mm]. 1588.103 1589.498 JULIE: He was on Bute for a couple days. 1589.498 1590.314 ... And he liked it. 1590.314 1591.110 ... Real strange. 1591.110 1592.144 (H) . 1592.144 1592.404 (SLURP) 1592.404 1593.562 ... @@@@ 1593.562 1594.548 All other horses hate it. 1594.548 1595.668 (H) But he got tram- -- 1595.668 1597.585 He had hoof prints on his shoulder and ribs. 1597.585 1598.934 (H)= And another horse, 1598.934 1600.146 was permanently lame after th- -- 1600.146 1600.682 He was, 1600.682 1602.058 ... borderline lame anyway, 1602.058 1603.618 he was doing walk trot and that's all, 1603.618 1605.355 an old lame ... Appaloosa, 1605.355 1606.611 but he broke a bone in his foot. 1606.611 1607.598 .. (H) He just -- 1607.598 1608.838 He made a sharp turn? 1608.838 1609.787 ... On the hill, 1609.787 1610.194 and just -- 1610.194 1612.001 .. He broke off a piece of his side bone. 1612.001 1614.640 (H)= So he's retired .. totally now. 1614.640 1616.260 ... Just getting fat and not working. 1616.260 1616.766 GARY: ... Mm. 1616.766 1617.665 JULIE: ... A=nd uh, 1617.665 1617.974 .. but, 1617.974 1619.867 GARY: [So much for uh= .. carts]. 1617.974 1619.867 JULIE: [(H) I walked up there (Hx)], 1619.867 1620.286 .. @and, 1620.286 1621.879 (H) hoping he wouldn't run over me, 1621.879 1623.579 with what was left of the @cart. 1623.579 1624.995 (H) And I took a knife with me, 1624.995 1625.486 and I was a- -- 1625.486 1626.338 And I didn't have to use it, 1626.338 1628.444 I was able to just unhook everything pretty quick, 1628.444 1629.931 and l=et him out of the shafts. 1629.931 1631.539 (H) ... A=nd um, 1631.539 1631.991 he h- -- 1631.991 1633.156 .. The only injury he had, 1633.156 1634.263 And part of the time the shafts, 1634.263 1635.160 and it's a metal cart, 1635.160 1636.694 .. the shaft was under his belly, 1636.694 1637.919 and in between his front legs, 1637.919 1638.223 and I thought, 1638.223 1639.598 [he's gonna] tea=r himself apart. 1638.262 1638.619 GARY: [Mm]. 1639.598 1641.127 JULIE: No=t a mark on his hind legs. 1641.127 1644.181 (H) He had a puncture wound on the back of his forearm here, 1644.181 1646.611 ... Small ... tiny ... puncture wound. 1646.611 1647.812 But it swelled up like that. 1647.812 1650.625 .. (H) He did a lotta ... bruising and muscle da[mage], 1650.340 1650.750 GARY: [Mm], 1650.750 1651.816 JULIE: (H) A=nd um, 1651.816 1653.022 ... the vet happened to be out, 1653.022 1653.849 .. I think he was -- 1653.849 1655.267 He came out about an @hour @la@ter, 1655.267 1656.307 and I showed him what had happened, 1656.307 1656.938 and he said , 1656.938 1658.798 .. (H)= he'll be out for six weeks. 1658.798 1660.698 Which was ... the b- rest of the hunt season. 1660.698 1662.157 ... He hunted two weekends later, 1662.157 1663.332 and was never ever lame. 1663.332 1663.932 GARY: ... (PFEW). 1663.932 1664.568 JULIE: Never lame. 1664.568 1665.436 He's really tough. 1665.436 1667.077 (H) And for ... three week[s], 1666.960 1667.077 GARY: [Hi]. 1667.077 1667.705 JACKIE: [2P>2]. 1667.077 1667.705 JULIE: [2after I took2] -- 1667.705 1668.292 after that? 1668.292 1669.813 When I take the cay- .. hay cart out? 1669.813 1671.020 ... To feed the horses? 1671.020 1672.908 (H) They'd all ru=n and scare= and spook. 1672.908 1673.986 GARY: [@@@@@ 1672.908 1674.984 JULIE: [Cause it sounded just like that @pony @cart]. 1673.986 1675.498 GARY: (H) .. I='ll] be darned. 1675.498 1676.867 ... I [2tell you what2]. 1676.254 1676.934 JACKIE: [2When do you need to go2]. 1676.934 1678.418 GARY: ... Forget [3that cart3]. 1677.520 1677.939 JULIE: [3I don't need -- 1677.939 1678.218 Oh3]. 1678.418 1679.078 ... Um, 1679.078 1680.698 ... sh=oo=t. 1680.698 1682.746 ... I need to go now. 1682.746 1683.080 JACKIE: Okay. 1683.080 1683.844 JULIE: .. Okay[=]? 1683.598 1684.380 JACKIE: [I'm just] gonna put this away. 1684.380 1686.040 (H) I'll just ride Canso tomorrow, 1686.040 1686.591 JULIE: Okay. 1686.591 1687.199 JACKIE: U=m, 1687.199 1689.260 .. I can stay after the lesson and work some [X]. 1689.018 1689.457 JULIE: [Al]right. 1689.457 1690.719 .. God I didn't know it was so late. 1690.719 1691.776 JACKIE: [@= It's o]kay. 1690.731 1691.502 JULIE: [but I have to go. 1691.502 1692.148 .. That's] right. 1692.148 1692.678 .. Anyway. 1692.678 1693.578 This is my barn. 1693.578 1694.287 GARY: ... O=kay. 1694.287 1696.132 JULIE: [then I have another barn down] here and, 1694.624 1695.603 JACKIE: [This is her barn], 1696.132 1696.307 JULIE: and, 1696.307 1697.235 ... These are the turn-outs, 1697.235 1698.657 there's only five-and-a-half acres. 1698.657 1700.867 ... But it's pretty well arranged. 1700.867 1702.380 JACKIE: ... I'm her @slave, 1702.380 1704.163 JULIE: This is my [slave for the summer (Hx)], 1702.978 1703.731 GARY: [You're her slave, 1703.731 1704.206 oh alright], 1704.206 1704.631 [2that's good2], 1704.206 1704.631 JACKIE: [2@(H)2] 1704.631 1705.563 JULIE: There's a tack room, 1705.563 1707.183 oh= you did great sla[ve], 1707.083 1708.200 JACKIE: [ look go=od2]? 1707.183 1708.860 JULIE: [2it looks wo=n2][3der=ful3][4=. 1707.183 1708.173 GARY: [2.. Wow=2]. 1708.123 1708.828 [3you did that3]? 1708.828 1710.036 JACKIE: [4My name is ~Jackie=4], 1708.885 1709.911 JULIE: she cleaned it4]. 1710.036 1711.068 JACKIE: [5it's not really slave5]. 1710.064 1711.068 JULIE: [5This is ~Jackie5]. 1710.135 1710.409 GARY: [5Hi, 1710.610 1711.425 ~Jackie5] slave? 1711.425 1711.801 Alright. 1711.801 1712.378 JULIE: (H) [This] -- 1711.954 1712.388 JACKIE: [Yeah=]. 1712.388 1713.608 GARY: That looks ni=ce. 1713.608 1714.271 JACKIE: ]? 1713.859 1715.613 GARY: [My wife] [2wants a .. a tack room2]. 1713.859 1714.993 JULIE: [.. This] [2is ~Ma=tt, 1714.993 1715.901 .. and this2] is, 1715.901 1716.446 I'm [3sorry3], 1716.022 1716.446 GARY: [3~Gary3], 1716.446 1716.992 JULIE: ~Gary, 1716.992 1717.392 JACKIE: Hi[=]. 1717.130 1718.036 JULIE: [This is] [2~Gary2] ~Lavelle, 1717.392 1717.642 GARY: [22], 1718.036 1718.744 JULIE: This [3is3], 1718.221 1718.618 GARY: [3Right3], 1718.744 1719.813 ... ~Jamie's husband, 1719.813 1720.964 that .. I bought the pony from. 1720.964 1721.724 JACKIE: ... Oh okay. 1721.724 1722.661 ... She's looking good. 1722.661 1723.327 GARY: Wow. 1723.327 1724.900 ... My wife wants one of these. 1724.900 1725.625 JACKIE: @@@ 1725.625 1726.382 JULIE: .. I have two. 1726.382 1727.205 ... But I can't s- -- 1727.205 1727.819 I have thr[ee=. 1727.691 1728.380 JACKIE: [Three]. 1727.819 1728.663 JULIE: And I can't s]pare them. 1728.663 1729.174 I forgot. 1729.174 1730.451 There's another [tack room outside]. 1729.676 1730.432 GARY: [That's nice]. 1730.451 1731.051 JACKIE: [2(H) Well, 1730.451 1731.672 JULIE: [2(H) And .. this is2] -- 1731.051 1731.365 JACKIE: no it -- 1731.365 1733.395 It would2]n't lo[3ok right if this lef3]t. 1731.920 1733.171 GARY: [3What do you use to put your3] -- 1733.395 1734.115 put your uh, 1734.115 1735.366 ... these are [real], 1734.966 1735.528 JACKIE: [I'm gonna] p- -- 1735.528 1736.607 GARY: ... [2Yeah. 1736.147 1736.857 JULIE: [2Saddleracks2]. 1736.607 1737.838 GARY: Those are2] real ... racks. 1737.838 1738.113 JULIE: .. Yeah, 1738.113 1739.635 they're only about twelve bucks apiece. 1739.635 1740.494 GARY: We have uh, 1740.494 1742.346 ... a triple rack. 1742.346 1742.797 JULIE: Mhm? 1742.797 1743.998 GARY: .. But I haven't hooked it up yet. 1743.998 1745.645 ... Since we move[d]. 1745.528 1747.905 JACKIE: [If] you want [2me to do that lesson sched2]ule for you, 1746.036 1747.271 JULIE: [2And it's only been three years a-2] -- 1747.905 1748.523 ... Yeah, 1748.523 1749.333 [maybe you can do that. 1748.523 1749.128 JACKIE: [I'll do it. 1749.211 1749.889 I mean @it's -- 1749.333 1750.304 JULIE: Clean that up and, 1749.889 1751.664 JACKIE: (H) It's kinda o=ld], 1750.304 1750.646 JULIE: .. fix it, 1750.646 1750.971 I -- 1750.971 1752.721 I really n]ee=d .. a keeper. 1752.721 1754.628 .. I need an organizer to keep [2me2] straight. 1754.160 1754.334 JACKIE: [2(TSK)2] 1754.628 1755.829 JULIE: It[3's awful3] in the summer. 1754.772 1755.299 JACKIE: [3XX3] 1755.829 1757.020 JULIE: I get ... terrible. 1757.020 1758.220 This is the other tack room? 1758.220 1760.663 ... It doesn't look quite as nice, 1760.663 1762.354 Elaine's mess is still a mess [in there]. 1761.897 1762.247 JACKIE: [Yeah]. 1762.247 1765.484 JULIE: ... But I'm gonna get her a tack trunk .. [2of some kind for2] her birthday (Hx). 1763.897 1764.834 GARY: [2Looks nice2]. 1765.484 1766.554

. 1766.554 1768.947 JACKIE: This rubber ... bit right here is Canso's bridle. 1768.947 1769.598 JULIE: .. M[hm]. 1769.197 1770.542 JACKIE: [We got it out] [2XXX XX2]. 1769.265 1769.683 GARY: [See], 1769.683 1770.834 [2this is a real barn2] ~Matt. 1770.834 1772.367 ... Our barn isn't real. 1772.367 1772.720 This is -- 1772.720 1773.002 JACKIE: @[@] 1772.870 1773.740 GARY: [

. 1773.740 1774.740 JACKIE: .. How many horses do you have. 1774.740 1775.341 GARY: (H) Two. 1775.341 1775.862 JACKIE: ... [Two], 1775.562 1776.615 JULIE: [@(Hx)@@][2@@2] 1776.333 1776.615 JACKIE: [2Oh2]. 1776.615 1776.883 yeah. 1776.883 1778.497 JULIE: ... Well, 1778.497 1779.184 GARY: .. [] -- 1778.657 1780.207 JULIE: [I bought this] [2place for the ba2]rn. 1779.239 1779.791 JACKIE: [2I'm sure2] -- 1780.207 1781.307 JULIE: ... And [3the lo3]cation. 1780.623 1780.900 JACKIE: [3Yeah3]. 1781.307 1782.161 JULIE: [4Not for4] the house. 1781.342 1781.683 GARY: [4XX4] 1782.161 1783.411 JULIE: The house is a piece of garbage, 1783.411 1783.693 but, 1783.693 1785.442 (H) you know I'm getting attached to it. 1785.442 1787.612 JACKIE: (H) [The inside is starting to look nice, 1785.879 1787.612 JULIE: [The only thing that was done well on that house, 1787.612 1788.579 JACKIE: because you're decorating it]. 1787.612 1788.855 JULIE: was the masonry work] though. 1788.855 1789.231 Hm? 1789.231 1790.793 JACKIE: It's starting to look nice on the in[side]. 1790.441 1790.756 JULIE: [Yeah.] 1790.793 1791.442 (H) .. Is it -- 1791.442 1792.494 Do you have enough time to br- -- 1792.494 1793.687 % run me by the vet clinic, 1793.687 1795.112 before we go pick up my truck, 1795.112 1796.714 because .. they close at [five thirty]. 1796.123 1796.696 JACKIE: [I'm fine]. 1796.714 1797.715 JULIE: ... Okay. 1797.715 1798.472 JACKIE: As long as [I can] -- 1798.018 1798.933 JULIE: [And I've got]ta pick up, 1798.933 1800.686 I've got to give uh Shiba her shots. 1800.686 1802.611 And .. he ordered the vaccine and it's in, 1802.611 1804.114 ... (Hx)= 1804.114 1805.100 GARY: .. [Saw] dust, 1804.121 1804.594 JACKIE: []. 1805.100 1806.299 GARY: .. or .. shavings I guess, 1806.299 1806.946 JULIE: [Unhunh]. 1806.299 1806.946 GARY: [XX] 1806.299 1807.842 JACKIE: [Hey would you mind] turning off the lights for me. 1807.842 1808.343 JULIE: ... Yeah. 1808.343 1809.143 ... Who's i- -- 1809.143 1809.977 ... Who's in there. 1809.977 1810.889 JACKIE: ... [(GASP)] 1810.487 1812.048 JULIE: [I for]got that horse was in there. 1812.048 1812.800 JACKIE: Aw (Hx) (H). 1812.800 1813.723 JULIE: [Oh= no=]. 1812.800 1813.679 JACKIE: [No=]. 1813.679 1814.726 JULIE: . 1814.726 1815.601 Imagine that. 1815.601 1816.614 ... Hi ~De=b. 1816.614 1816.993 JACKIE: . 1816.993 1817.693 DEB: ... Hi=. 1817.693 1820.993 JULIE: ... (H) ~Jackie's gonna [run me down to get my truck real] quick. 1819.339 1820.588 JACKIE: [What kind XXXX]. 1820.993 1821.812 JULIE: .. So I'll be back. 1821.812 1824.062 ... Can I leave my dog with you? 1824.062 1825.937 DEB: ... Sure. 1825.937 1827.003 JULIE: ... [Look] look, 1826.293 1826.653 JACKIE: [@(Hx)] 1827.003 1827.287 @No. 1827.287 1828.345 JULIE: ... Yeah I know. 1828.345 1829.297 DEB: ... . 1829.297 1829.925 JULIE: ... Yeah okay. 1829.925 1830.250 Try it out, 1830.250 1831.237 I'll be back shortly.