0.000 1.399 FRAN: .. (H) Well I went to this church, 1.399 2.733 and this is very interest[ing], 2.344 3.269 SEAN: [This is in] Meridia? 3.269 4.053 FRAN: .. (H) Merid[2a2]. 3.966 4.530 SEAN: [2Me2]rida. 4.530 5.471 FRAN: [3In the Yuca3]tan. 4.530 5.126 SEAN: [3That's right3]. 5.471 6.373 FRAN: And it's lovely. 6.373 8.603 (H) The people are % .. sweet and nice, 8.603 9.303 they're little, 9.303 10.117 (H) they're dark, 10.117 11.080 they all wear white, 11.080 13.015 .. (H) and the city is quite nice. 13.015 14.486 It's a very manageable size. 14.486 15.140 Merida. 15.140 15.989 You [can ..] %- -- 15.290 15.688 SEAN: [Unhunh]? 15.989 16.322 FRAN: .. You know, 16.322 17.548 wal[k around a lo]=t, 16.438 17.288 SEAN: [Walk everywhere], 17.548 17.813 FRAN: and, 17.813 18.385 (H) you know, 18.385 19.704 i- i- it's really lovely. 19.704 20.504 (H) A=nd, 20.504 21.075 uh=, 21.075 21.814 .. anyway I wen- -- 21.814 22.135 And th- -- 22.135 24.200 And the= twine makers, 24.200 26.657 the= jute industry was very big there at one time. 26.657 27.906 (H) And the cemetery, 27.906 28.820 (H) there's a, 28.820 29.392 .. there was, 29.392 31.044 I don't know if ... it was called a labor union. 31.044 32.750 But some kind of .. %association. 32.750 33.133 .. %Uh=, 33.133 34.835 (H) of twine makers. 34.835 35.644 (H) We=re, 35.644 36.145 uh=, 36.145 37.086 buried together, 37.086 38.503 they had a section in the cemetery. 38.503 40.231 (H) And .. carved in marble, 40.231 42.497 (H) and then painted ... garish colors, 42.497 43.167 like aqua, 43.167 43.845 and yellow, 43.845 44.440 and everything. 44.440 46.991 (H) But carved in stone is these ... ropes, 46.991 48.029 all around the, 48.029 49.620 ... the various graves, 49.620 51.193 and great knots and things. 51.193 51.674 (H) And -- 51.674 52.806 But it all carved in stone, 52.806 53.610 and then painted, 53.610 56.241 ... your b=asic .. Mexican ... house paint? 56.241 57.483 .. You know [all those] colors? 56.642 57.068 SEAN: [Yeah]. 57.483 57.885 FRAN: [2Yellow, 57.483 58.134 SEAN: [2Nice bright2] -- 57.885 58.348 FRAN: and a2]qua, 58.348 58.860 and pink, 58.860 59.060 and, 59.060 59.524 .. [you know], 59.245 60.325 SEAN: [Nice] bright [2colors2]. 59.856 60.324 FRAN: [2green2], 60.332 61.259 you know tha[3t3] green? 60.648 60.748 SEAN: [3@3] 61.259 62.072 FRAN: .. (H) And, 62.072 63.539 it's a [wonder]ful pla[2ce. 62.381 62.962 ALICE: [Celandine]. 63.277 64.664 SEAN: [2Indian .. Indian co2]lors. 63.540 64.465 FRAN: The cemetery2]. 64.664 65.620 (H) But the=, 65.620 66.372 ... But this, 66.372 68.300 .. [Where now is this] [2church2], 66.527 67.389 SEAN: [@celandine], 67.512 68.337 BERNARD: [2not celandine2]. 68.337 68.878 No that's [3Ch-3] -- 68.706 70.308 FRAN: [3that3] [4was built fr4][5om the=5], 68.878 69.653 SEAN: [4much too subtle4]. 69.653 70.308 ALICE: [5darn5]. 70.308 71.194 BERNARD: .. [6That's f- China. 70.419 70.685 FRAN: [6uh, 70.685 71.887 stones of the temple, 71.442 72.193 BERNARD: @@@6] 71.887 72.852 FRAN: by6] [7this7] p- t- -- 72.164 72.567 ALICE: [7Modern7]. 72.852 74.202 FRAN: [8this same8] [9.. priest, 72.910 73.411 SEAN: [8Mhm8], 73.561 74.489 BERNARD: [9@@@@9] 74.202 74.840 FRAN: and9] is -- 74.940 75.471 (H) %A- -- 75.471 76.337 (H) % there- -- 76.337 77.243 There was a tree, 77.243 78.393 that burned all night, 78.393 78.871 and never -- 78.871 80.971 .. And .. and wasn't consumed by the flame, 80.971 82.306 and the tree's still there, 82.306 82.957 (H) and they, 82.957 83.394 It's, 83.394 83.827 .. you know, 83.827 84.809 i- % it's fenced, 84.809 85.549 a=nd people say, 85.549 86.389 this is the tree, 86.389 90.433 (H) .. and there are several thing[s around this big squa]re. 88.385 88.606 ALICE: [Oh, 88.606 90.161 mythology's so great]. 90.433 91.411 FRAN: .. (H) [2a=nd, 90.844 91.380 ALICE: [2That's what we're doing, 91.380 92.664 we're making our own up right now2]. 91.411 92.891 FRAN: ... you know what's right the2]=re? 92.891 94.142 ALICE: .. (H) . 93.992 96.295 FRAN: [3An3] AA ... uh= meeting place. 96.295 97.452 (H) And [4painted, 96.781 97.615 SEAN: [4Ah=4], 97.452 99.555 FRAN: (H)4] on the door of this little shacky building, 99.555 100.004 it's %a- -- 100.004 101.856 ... A= .. all around this big square, 101.856 103.582 there are these kinda beat-up little buildings. 103.582 104.183 (H) And, 104.183 105.034 .. painted on one, 105.034 105.535 a big, 105.535 107.313 the circle with the triangle inside. 107.313 107.826 And I looked, 107.826 108.278 and I said, 108.278 108.608 .. , 109.567 110.665 (H) And I walked over, 110.665 111.446 and there it was, 111.446 112.167 in Spanish, 112.167 115.453 and the meeting schedule was painted on the (H) wa=ll and everything, 115.453 118.124 (H) and it's right there by this .. [most sacred] [2site2]. 116.960 118.038 ALICE: [Did you go to that meeting] [2~Sean2]? 117.713 118.639 BERNARD: [2That's a2]mazing. 118.639 119.504 SEAN: .. I've never [3been there3]. 119.082 119.990 FRAN: [3Isn't that won3]derful? 119.990 120.644 ALICE: ..

. 121.274 121.677 SEAN: ..

. 121.677 122.250 FRAN: It was [great]. 121.936 122.612 BERNARD: [That i][2=s2]. 122.494 123.471 SEAN:

? 122.612 123.099 FRAN: [3Yeah3]. 123.471 124.371 BERNARD: [4Cause they have a l4][5ot5] -- 123.471 125.071 FRAN: [4Right there by this4] [5s5][6acred site6]. 124.121 125.071 ALICE: [5

6]. 125.071 126.635 BERNARD: ... [7We were in Mexic7][8o City8], 125.397 126.099 SEAN: [77]. 126.099 126.635 ALICE: [HI>8]? 126.635 128.236 BERNARD: and it was hard to scrape up a meeting. 128.236 129.823 ... It was mostly Americans, 129.823 130.480 that work for the, 130.480 131.272 SEAN: ..

. 131.272 132.099 BERNARD: CIA or, 132.099 132.338 -- 132.584 133.180 SEAN: [Well] no. 133.180 133.483 They -- 133.483 134.767 ... In Mexico City, 134.767 137.044 ... there was always a Mexican meeting going on, 137.044 139.643 .. same time as an American .. speak- .. English speaking. 139.643 141.127 ... English speaking was upstair[s, 140.968 143.086 BERNARD: [But it's harder] for them to be [2.. alcoholic2]. 141.120 141.522 SEAN: and], 142.122 144.347 [2Spanish ..2] people were downstairs. 144.347 145.121 FRAN: ... Why, 145.121 146.135 they can't find @booze? 146.135 147.402 <@ I mean what's the pro=blem @>. 147.402 148.535 @@@[@@] 147.948 148.535 SEAN: [No there], 148.535 150.526 FRAN: (H)=[2= @@2][3@@ (H)3] 148.804 149.564 SEAN: [2there was always2] -- 149.564 149.873 BERNARD: [3No, 149.873 150.718 it's3] th- harder for th- -- 150.718 152.420 Uh supposedly it's harder for them, 152.420 152.646 It's -- 152.646 153.986 ... It's so like [hard] i- -- 153.540 153.892 FRAN: [To] -- 153.986 155.939 BERNARD: It's .. against their machismo [2to2], 155.636 156.537 FRAN: [2Oh of2] course. 156.537 157.645 BERNARD: Ma[3chismo to be3], 156.618 157.214 ALICE: [3Y- you know, 157.214 158.661 at at3] gay AA meetings, 158.661 159.556 do they have signers. 159.556 160.707 SEAN: ... Yes. 160.707 161.635 BERNARD: ... Some[times]. 161.203 162.542 FRAN: [They are] in New York now. 162.542 163.217 More [2and more2]. 162.732 163.183 SEAN: [2Yes2]. 162.732 163.720 BERNARD: [2Yeah they do2] this a lot. 163.720 164.302 ((RUBBING_FINGERS)) 164.252 164.566 [@] 164.252 165.475 ALICE: [@][2@@ @(H)2] 164.566 165.475 FRAN: [2@@@@ (H)2] 165.475 166.409 That's a sign. 166.409 167.261 ALICE: (H)[= Yeah]. 166.571 167.839 BERNARD: [@It @certainly] [2@i=s2]. 167.277 168.640 FRAN: [2@@@2][3@@3] 167.839 168.164 ALICE: [3@@3] 167.839 169.594 BERNARD: [3@3][4@@@@@4] 168.176 169.567 FRAN: [4@@@ @@@4] 169.594 170.177 X: [55]. 169.594 172.094 SEAN: [5About a5] year ago we had a lo=t. 172.094 173.945 ... And they sort of a=ll, 173.945 175.667 BERNARD: ... Went to [different meeting]s. 174.664 175.667 SEAN: [disappeared]. 175.676 177.444 ... -- 177.444 178.645 .. Oh I think it would be hard. 178.645 179.205 ALICE: ... What, 179.205 179.700 [signing]? 179.260 180.096 FRAN: [Well there are a] few, 180.096 180.714 and [2there's a2] -- 180.225 180.704 SEAN: [2Signing2]. 180.714 183.246 FRAN: ... There a=re a [3couple of deaf meetings3], 181.669 183.431 ALICE: [3XXXX always at gay things3]. 183.431 184.652 FRAN: in .. [4New York now4]. 183.826 184.926 ALICE: [4Every gay thing I've ever4] been to, 184.926 185.789 there was a [5signer5]. 185.363 185.985 SEAN: [5Sign5]er? 186.085 186.376 ALICE: (H) Ye[6ah, 186.304 186.676 SEAN: [66]. 186.376 187.316 ALICE: not at6] [7SLICK7], 186.676 187.904 FRAN: [7They're listed in the7] book as, 187.904 188.304 you know, 188.304 188.804 always, 188.804 190.217 a signer is always at this meeting. 190.217 190.701 .. And, 190.701 191.455 BERNARD: ... I forgot, 191.455 191.804 do y- -- 191.804 192.270 ... Yeah. 192.270 192.833 That's right. 192.833 193.278 Of course, 193.278 194.128 you go to meeting. 194.128 194.810 FRAN: ... Oh sure. 194.810 195.096 BERNARD: .. Yeah. 195.096 196.004 You [have for a while]. 195.264 195.465 FRAN: [, 195.842 197.144 I'm] sober for twelve years P>. 197.144 197.790 BERNARD: ... Do you -- 197.790 199.190 .. Does she [know your sponsor]? 198.148 198.627 SEAN: [Same as Rick, 198.627 199.190 same as me]. 199.190 200.718 FRAN: ... Beg your par[2don2]? 200.534 201.061 SEAN: [2Same2] as me. 201.061 202.687 ... [~Lynne ~Bissell]? 202.057 203.160 BERNARD: [Do you know ~Lynne] ~Bissell? 203.160 205.416 SEAN: ... That's my sponsor in New York? 205.416 206.017 FRAN: ...

]. 206.379 207.180 SEAN: [She's an act]ress, 207.180 208.082 .. Woody Allen movies, 208.082 208.872 ... Older woman, 208.872 209.724 about seventy-two. 209.724 211.983 FRAN: ... (H) I may know her, 211.983 212.970 and not [know her]. 212.386 212.970 SEAN: [You'd re- -- 212.970 213.621 you might [2know her2], 213.333 213.621 FRAN: [2Yeah2]. 213.621 214.157 SEAN: May[3be3] [4not4], 213.836 214.237 BERNARD: [3~Ly3][4=nne4], 214.032 214.330 FRAN: [4I mean4], 214.330 215.727 [5I don't know where she goes to mee5]tings. 214.157 215.460 SEAN: New4] [5York's a big place5]. 215.727 216.016 FRAN: Yeah, 215.991 217.565 Because you've got [a thou][2sand meetings a2] week. 216.467 217.407 SEAN: [Upper] [2East Side2], 216.721 217.463 >ENV: [2<, 225.384 228.171 ... If I go off for t- some dinner party uptown or something, 228.171 229.456 I might go to a meeting uptown, 229.456 230.666 but mostly I'm downtown. 230.666 232.168 ... , 232.168 233.497 ALICE: ...

. 237.099 238.150 FRAN: ... (H) Yes. 238.150 239.776 BERNARD: ... Our New York connection, 239.776 241.855 we can all= like remember through y- ~Fran. 241.855 242.555 ALICE: ...

, 242.555 243.624 FRAN: @ @@@ 243.624 244.690 ... (H) , 244.690 245.985 the neighborhood's probably the same. 245.985 247.397 since it's a [historic] district, 246.510 246.975 >ENV: [DOG_BARKING>>] 247.397 249.383 FRAN: and they won't <@ let em tear anything down @>. 249.383 249.710 X: (TS)= 249.710 250.860 FRAN: You could find your way around, 250.860 251.411 ex[cept] that -- 250.963 251.244 SEAN: [Your-] -- 251.411 251.540 FRAN: (H) 251.540 252.356 SEAN: Your building's new. 252.356 252.680 Isn't it? 252.680 253.203 FRAN: .. N=o. 253.203 254.168 My building's old. 254.168 255.360 I don't know when my building was built. 255.360 255.892 SEAN: Fif[ties]? 255.461 256.363 FRAN: [Nineteen]-ten? 256.363 256.822 .. No. 256.822 258.143 ALICE: ... Nine[teen-ten]. 257.276 257.898 SEAN: [Oh=, 257.898 258.556 wow]=. 258.556 258.924 No I'm-, 258.924 260.445 [I'm thinking of a different buil][2ding in2] -- 258.924 260.128 FRAN: [Nineteen-twenty=], 260.128 261.100 BERNARD: [2So is it a2] big a[3partment3]? 260.764 262.441 SEAN: [3She's3] just moving into a new apartment. 262.441 263.054 ... She and her hus[4band4]. 262.954 265.048 FRAN: [4Ab4]out a hundred and ninety ... apartments. 265.048 266.211 Seventeen stories. 266.211 266.811 BERNARD: ... I mean i- -- 266.811 267.350 Are they big, 267.350 268.270 ... like rooms, 268.270 268.812 [is it big], 268.270 269.120 FRAN: [(H)] Yeah. 269.120 269.844 There are=, 269.844 271.372 ... [We're]= in, 270.425 270.665 >ENV: [((DOG_BARK))] 271.372 271.906 FRAN: ... the -- 271.906 272.974 Up in the penthouse. 272.974 274.579 There are .. [some] larger apartments, 273.606 273.832 >ENV: [((DOG_BARK))] 274.579 276.481 FRAN: because people have bought .. neighboring apartments, 276.481 277.819 and .. expanded and mixed them. 277.819 278.347 (H) .. You know, 278.347 278.542 but, 278.542 279.866 ... they='re mostly, 279.866 281.462 ... well there're some studios, 281.462 282.415 and some one-bedrooms, 282.415 283.185 and two-bed[rooms]. 282.885 284.122 SEAN: [And has it] always been an apartment house? 284.122 284.498 FRAN: ..

. 284.498 285.208 >ENV: ... ((DOG_BARK)) 285.208 285.538 ALICE: .. What- -- 285.538 287.220 What is the real %e- .. estate market doing. 287.220 288.068

]? 287.586 288.333 FRAN: [(H) W]e=ll, 288.333 289.694 .. it's down in general. 289.694 290.474 ALICE: ... In [New York]. 290.098 291.131 FRAN: [But cer]tain areas, 291.131 291.360 yeah. 291.360 293.776 Certain are[as s]=ort of held their val[2ue2]. 291.948 292.158 >ENV: [((DOG_BARK))] 293.458 293.776 [2((DOG_BARK))2] 293.776 295.279 FRAN: (H) And what happened would be=, 295.279 296.191 rather than have it, 296.191 298.558 ... things .. kinda crashing. 298.558 299.171 S- %a- -- 299.171 299.733 .. %W- -- 299.733 300.523 .. % It would just -- 300.523 302.175 .. % Things would be slow to sell. 302.175 303.225 ... But, 303.225 304.020 .. they would ho- -- 304.020 306.717 .. The Village is one of the few areas that held its value. 306.717 307.839 ... (H) U=m, 307.839 308.592 (H) .. but, 308.592 310.751 certain things are a drug on the [mar]ket. 310.350 310.517 >ENV: [((DOG_BARK))] 310.751 312.433 FRAN: .. If you have a .. studio apartment, 312.433 313.546 ... you're stuck with it. 313.546 313.825 SEAN: .. @ 313.825 314.502 ALICE: For the rest of your life. 314.502 315.280 ... Like [herpes]. 314.934 316.562 FRAN: [C=er]tainly for the next ten years. 316.562 317.344 (H) A=nd, 317.344 317.905 .. [a=nd], 317.469 317.905 SEAN: [@@] 317.905 319.600 FRAN: if you have a one-be=droom, 319.600 321.867 .. it has to have something kinda going for it. 321.867 323.498 Or you're gonna be s=orta stuck. 323.498 324.480 You could be stuck with it. 324.480 325.540 (H) U=m, 325.540 327.991 ... two-bedrooms and .. up ... are, 327.991 328.831 ... are f- -- 328.831 330.116 ... easy to se-, 330.116 331.566 easier .. to sell. 331.566 332.497 ALICE: ... Cause Beth. 332.497 333.032 ... You know, 333.032 333.760 .. [my friend, 333.265 334.973 SEAN: []? 333.760 334.740 ALICE: she just sold one, 334.790 336.806 (H)] .. at a fifty-thousand-dollar loss. 336.806 337.906 From .. four years ago. 337.906 338.816 BERNARD: X[XXX] 338.375 339.150 ALICE: [That she] bought. 339.150 339.693 FRAN: ... Yeah. 339.693 340.594 (H) Well w[e= -- 340.246 341.490 ALICE: [On .. Sutton] Place, 340.569 340.996 FRAN: .. Uh], 341.490 342.243 ALICE: Where's Sutton Place. 342.243 342.445 FRAN: Yeah, 342.445 343.786 Sutton Place is up on the East [Side], 343.615 343.786 SEAN: [%E-] -- 343.786 345.715 FRAN: now [2see the Upper East2] Side .. [3took one of the3] -- 343.940 344.715 SEAN: [2East Side 2]? 345.015 346.390 BERNARD: [3Real ni=ce3] [4Sutton Pla4][5ce5]. 345.681 346.160 SEAN: [4It's nice4]. 346.160 349.312 FRAN: [5One of the5] hardest hits fo=r ... dropped values. 349.312 351.045 BERNARD: Because it .. had soared so high=. 351.045 351.698 FRAN: Th- .. They -- 351.698 352.399 .. Two things. 352.399 354.000 They had soared r=eally [high]. 353.787 354.371 BERNARD: [That] ch- -- 354.371 354.739 FRAN: And, 354.739 355.893 there was an awful lot -- 355.893 357.895 Because they ... soared so high, 357.895 362.292 that .. area .. had (H) less= ... zoning, 362.292 364.242 ... [uh=], 363.684 364.347 ALICE: [Restric]tions. 364.347 365.152 FRAN: restrictions. 365.152 365.847 And they w- -- 365.847 366.780 .. There was .. %uh -- 366.780 368.381 There was a lotta building in the area. 368.381 369.303 .. (H) And so, 369.303 371.080 ... between those two things, 371.080 372.796 that ... market ... wa[s], 372.671 373.472 BERNARD: [Lot]ta new buildings. 373.472 373.940 FRAN: .. Yeah. 373.940 375.805 ... (H) And the new buildings are=, 375.805 377.228 ... I don't like the new buildings. 377.228 378.336 ALICE: Do you like living in New York? 378.336 378.826 FRAN: ... Yeah. 378.826 379.238 I love it. 379.238 380.718 ... (H) We traveled all over. 380.718 381.706 We looked around. 381.706 382.207 We thought, 382.207 384.102 (H) my husband and I stayed out on the road, 384.102 385.727 ... fo=r two years. 385.727 387.860 ... And we went all over the United States, 387.860 388.333 and we d-, 388.333 390.121 ... we didn't find any place we liked [better]. 389.811 391.640 ALICE: [So you] went from New Orleans to New York? 391.640 392.100 FRAN: ... Yeah. 392.100 393.435 Oh that I did years ago. 393.435 394.863 ... That I did, 394.863 396.014 ALICE: ... But it's the new. 396.014 397.560 That ... part [XXXX]. 396.781 397.420 FRAN: [God knows, 397.420 399.113 s-] nineteen si- sixty something. 399.113 400.061 .. Sixty-three. 400.061 401.979 ... Thirty [years ago]. 401.419 402.970 ALICE: [So you've lived] in New York all this time? 402.970 403.344 FRAN: Mhm? 403.344 403.944 .. Thirty years. 403.944 404.345 Except, 404.345 406.048 (H) I did take [five years off]. 405.228 406.462 BERNARD: [@@ .. @@]@@ 406.462 408.005 ALICE: ? 407.278 407.678 BERNARD: [2@(H)2] 408.005 408.357 FRAN: Yeah. 408.357 408.945 ALICE: Wow. 408.945 410.563 FRAN: ... I did take five years off. 410.563 412.063 .. I went to= uh=, 412.063 413.241 ... Florida, 413.241 414.519 which was a terrible mistake. 414.519 415.980 ... We needed a vacation, 415.980 417.655 and we accidentally moved instead. 417.655 418.080 ALICE: Oh=. 418.080 418.726 FRAN: .. And then, 418.726 419.768 we realized that, 419.768 420.810 ... @Well, 420.810 421.823 <@ The first year we were there, 421.823 423.374 we visited New York six times, 423.374 424.956 and we looked at each other and said @>, 424.956 425.678 BERNARD: @@@ 425.678 426.040 FRAN: .. . 429.042 429.286 You know, 429.286 431.840 and we were just getting increasingly bored down there and, 431.840 432.434 (H) you know, 432.434 434.798 .. you- .. get .. occupied .. fixing up a house, 434.798 435.762 and that's kinda fu=n, 435.762 436.143 and the[n], 435.999 437.076 ALICE: [Wh]ere in Florida were you. 437.076 438.288 FRAN: ... On the Gulf Coast, 438.288 438.993 Fort Myers Beach. 438.993 440.127 We had a nice house, 440.127 441.227 right on the sea[=]. 440.968 441.244 SEAN: [In] -- 441.244 441.545 .. [2Yeah, 441.244 442.726 FRAN: [2Right o=n the sea=2]. 441.545 442.646 SEAN: I saw pictures2]. 442.726 443.722 FRAN: It was beautiful. 443.722 445.530 ... (H) But the poo=r house, 445.530 448.025 was in fucking .. Fort My[ers @Beach. 447.267 448.412 ALICE: [XXX curbs, 448.025 449.425 FRAN: @@@@@@] 448.412 450.557 ALICE: .. they have ramps on all the] curbs for the wheelchairs. 450.557 451.847 FRAN: (H) .. @Yes[2=, 451.433 452.057 ALICE: [2@(Hx)2] 451.847 452.057 FRAN: .. Right2], 452.057 452.513 We had to, 452.513 453.703 ... W- i- the building code, 453.703 454.612 you have to have a @ramp, 454.612 455.957 @[@@@@@] 454.776 455.957 ALICE: [@@@@@] 455.957 456.365 FRAN: @(H) 456.365 457.486 But [anyway uh], 456.593 456.966 ALICE: [You know, 457.101 458.327 handicap] bars on your bathroom-. 458.327 458.877 In your [2bathroom2]. 458.535 459.337 FRAN: [2That's2] right, 459.337 461.297 ... (H) [3But uh3], 460.631 461.232 ALICE: [3@(Hx)@3] 461.297 461.573 FRAN: But, 461.573 462.774 w=e didn't like it. 462.774 463.286 At all. 463.286 463.812 And so, 463.812 464.738 that's when we said, 464.738 466.724 .. well let's not do anything precipitous, 466.724 468.331 like we did moving down here, 468.331 470.420 (H) before we race back to New York, 470.420 472.148 ... let's look around a little bit. 472.148 473.953 ... So we= hit the road. 473.953 475.330 And we stayed out for a couple [years, 475.087 476.204 SEAN: [Two years they'd been looking]. 475.330 476.204 FRAN: looking all over]. 476.204 477.705 SEAN: ... [2for other places2]. 476.704 477.705 ALICE: [2Looking .. round2], 477.705 478.596 ... Really? 478.596 478.770 And -- 478.770 479.130 FRAN: Unhunh? 479.130 480.632 ... Round the US=. 480.632 481.833 ALICE: ... Wow=. 481.833 482.534 FRAN: .. And we, 482.534 484.418 .. [kept finding these nice places]. 482.678 484.350 >ENV: [((DOG_BARKING))] 484.418 485.120 FRAN: And we'd say, 485.120 486.685 (H) ? 486.685 486.907 And, 486.907 487.907 ... Larry would say, 487.907 488.331 ? 492.612 493.150 ... VOX>. 494.152 494.380 BERNARD: [It's] -- 494.152 495.155 FRAN: [@]@@@ [2@(H)=2] 494.735 495.155 ALICE: [2You w-2] -- 495.155 495.606 .. Wow. 495.606 497.881 FRAN: And so we'd ... drive on. 497.881 500.059 .. We found lots of places that we like to sp[end] -- 499.717 499.966 BERNARD: [Oh, 499.966 501.297 if] New York's under your skin, 501.297 501.822 watch out. 501.822 502.148 FRAN: % Yeah, 502.148 503.073 [it's like a drug]. 502.148 503.042 BERNARD: [You can't get out]. 503.073 503.543 ... It -- 503.543 504.328 .. It [i=s. 503.921 504.843 FRAN: [You're finished]. 504.328 505.918 BERNARD: .. It] ... i=s a drug. 505.918 506.788 FRAN: ... That's it. 506.788 507.864 .. You're consigned, 507.864 508.834 the r[est of your life, 508.078 509.260 ALICE: [Do they have New York AA? 509.113 510.680 FRAN: ... to ludicrous rents], 509.260 509.636 ALICE: .. , 509.636 509.960 @@ 509.960 511.035 (H) or maybe] they've been to New Y[2ork, 510.917 511.343 BERNARD: [2Well, 511.343 511.525 ALICE: @2] 511.343 511.896 BERNARD: they2] do. 511.896 512.287 ALICE: .. (H) 512.287 512.691 BERNARD: Don't they. 512.691 513.608 They have their own ver- -- 513.608 513.883 .. They- -- 513.883 515.033 ALICE: [@(Hx) <@ Get me outa] New York @>. 514.110 514.680 BERNARD: [They do]. 515.033 516.382 ALICE: <@ Got- .. [2gotta get2] outa this place @>. 515.372 515.825 FRAN: [2We have so-2] -- 516.382 516.783 ... We- -- 516.783 517.184 .. What -- 517.184 519.957 ALICE: ... I'm a New [York-a .. holic]. 519.158 519.957 FRAN: [], 519.158 519.957 BERNARD: [No she's s-] -- 519.957 521.294 She's asking if they have, 521.294 523.319 th=ey should have an addiction to New York. 523.319 523.467 SEAN: Or -- 523.467 523.706 FRAN: Oh, 523.706 525.381 New Yorkers Ano[nymous]. 524.750 525.814 SEAN: [Or if they have] like a, 525.814 526.858 special kind of like, 526.858 527.277 yeah. 527.277 528.045 FRAN: ... [Yeah][2=2]. 527.620 528.297 ALICE: [3] -- 527.833 528.725 BERNARD: [2But they2] [3do3] [4have a, 528.272 528.725 SEAN: [4But in fact, 528.725 529.672 BERNARD: they do have an AA, 528.725 529.672 SEAN: AA is dif- -- 529.672 531.362 complete4]ly different in New [5York City5], 529.672 530.136 BERNARD: which is4], 530.861 531.325 [5different5]. 531.362 532.913 SEAN: than it is [6anywhere else6] in the world. 531.933 532.503 BERNARD: [6That's right6]. 532.913 534.456 FRAN: ... (H) Well the Vil[7lage7] [8is8] -- 533.816 534.450 BERNARD: [7Don't you7] [8think8]? 534.178 535.307 SEAN: [8Much8] [9more exciting9], 534.456 534.851 FRAN: [9Yes, 534.851 535.726 it's t9]rue=, 535.726 536.680 SEAN: ... [better] speak- -- 535.851 536.180 ALICE: []? 536.680 537.258 FRAN: ... Well, 537.258 537.881 the th[ing that] -- 537.460 539.451 SEAN: [2]. 538.719 538.990 BERNARD: [2You know, 538.990 540.946 you know what2] the saying in AA is. 540.946 543.380 SEAN: [3Because you have all those famous ... people VOX>3]. 541.051 541.652 BERNARD: [3If you can, 541.652 542.628 .. or in New York, 542.628 544.329 we- we've always3] heard that the saying is, 544.329 545.211 [4if you can stay, 544.329 546.834 >ENV: [4((DOG_WHINING))4] 545.211 546.180 BERNARD: .. New Yorkers say, 546.180 547.891 if you can stay4] sober in AA, 547.891 549.159 you can stay [5sober5] anywhere. 548.357 548.704 >ENV: [5((DOG_WINING))5] 549.159 550.907 FRAN: @[6@@@ @It's6] @true. 549.337 550.366 BERNARD: [6@@@@@6] 550.907 551.874 FRAN: @@@@ (H) 551.874 553.776 [And] we even say that about certain meet[2ings. 551.874 552.108 >ENV: [((DOG_YELP))] 553.549 553.883 [2((DOG_YELP))2] 553.776 555.068 FRAN: If2] [3you can stay sober at3], 553.958 555.134 SEAN: [3Plus really smart people-3]. 555.088 555.640 BERNARD: . 556.789 557.390 SEAN: ... You know, 557.390 558.105 BERNARD: Quit that crying. 558.105 560.235 FRAN: Well New Yorkers are extr=emely candid. 560.235 561.798 ... A=nd, 561.798 562.480 also, 562.480 563.572 ... very, 563.572 565.872 ... emotionally accessible. 565.872 569.100 ... Which .. is not the reputation we have outsi=de. 569.100 569.927 Of New York. 569.927 570.646 .. (H) But, 570.646 571.450 ... you know. 571.450 571.951 ... I mean, 571.951 573.126 if you ask a cab driver, 573.126 574.132 if he speaks English. 574.132 574.416 Okay, 574.416 576.091 let's assume you got one who speaks English. 576.091 578.413 (H) And he's sorta been a little bit .. acculturated. 578.413 578.806 ... <% you know %>. 578.806 579.647 (H) But if you g- -- 579.647 582.306 .. Not- not the ... Pakistanis fresh off the, 582.306 583.356 ... [off the] boat, 582.627 582.904 ALICE: [Yeah]. 583.356 584.233 FRAN: o=r any of that. 584.233 584.540 You know, 584.540 587.408 (H) but you get your basic .. New York cab dri[ver, 587.216 587.790 SEAN: [They talk]. 587.408 587.842 FRAN: and you], 587.842 588.561 (H) You say, 588.561 588.840 you know, 588.840 589.627 how's it going. 589.627 590.493 He'll te[ll you]. 590.087 590.660 SEAN: [Yep] he- -- 590.660 591.335 ... Unhunh? 591.335 592.235 FRAN: ... You know? 592.235 592.863 ... I mean, 592.863 593.699 .. , 595.074 597.211 (H) .. about this new diet he was on, 597.211 597.640 .. and, 597.640 598.626 he ate %apples, 598.626 600.203 and his wife was really happy, 600.203 600.428 and, 600.428 602.254 (H) and their sex life had improved, 602.254 602.436 and, 602.436 604.261 and this is a guy like seventy years old, 604.261 604.711 or something, 604.711 606.342 he'd been driving a cab for forty years, 606.342 606.967 and proud of it, 606.967 607.192 and, 607.192 609.143 (H) his kids went through this school and that s-, 609.143 609.649 (H) I mean, 609.649 611.054 .. ve=ry open. 611.054 611.294 And, 611.294 611.784 (H) the -- 611.784 612.267 But the r- -- 612.267 613.068 ... The new -- 613.068 614.948 The b- New Yorker is .. usually in a hurry. 614.948 616.940 ... And so they'll te=ll you anything, 616.940 617.875 they'll gi=ve you anything. 617.875 619.900 But just hurry up and tell em ex[a=ctly what you want], 619.019 620.687 ALICE: [I .. I can never] get a cab in New York. 620.687 622.173 Cause everybody takes it away from me. 622.173 623.559 BERNARD: .. [@= @@] 622.323 623.119 ALICE: [I mean .. when I am, 623.119 624.725 .. I'm] just there for hou=rs, 624.725 625.354 fo- i- wi- -- 625.354 626.703 BERNARD: Y- you [gotta] ju[2=mp, 625.807 626.071 ALICE: [@I] -- 626.505 627.270 [2I can't do it2]. 626.750 627.257 BERNARD: Yeah2]. 627.295 627.937 ALICE: ... [3I go3], 627.537 627.988 BERNARD: [3It's a3] -- 627.988 628.323 ALICE: Okay, 628.323 628.898 I'm outa here. 628.898 630.532 ... <@ If you don't wanna take me, 630.532 631.886 I won['t go (H) @>]. 630.976 631.886 FRAN: [@@@@@] 631.886 633.103 ALICE: .. I just can't get a cab. 633.103 634.260 SEAN: Well how do you get around. 634.260 635.851 ALICE: ... I just wait for that hour. 635.851 636.283 Un[til], 636.046 636.300 SEAN: [Oh], 636.300 637.314 BERNARD: [2@@@@@2] 636.300 636.644 ALICE: [2you know, 636.644 637.584 it's like two A2]M. 637.584 638.003 Okay, 638.003 638.568 no one is here, 638.568 639.272 no competition. 639.272 640.277 I'm gonna get this cab. 640.277 640.852 BERNARD: .. @(H)= 640.877 642.233 ALICE: (H) .. [My kids said], 641.461 642.219 BERNARD: [Oh=]. 642.233 643.485 ALICE: ... -- 643.660 643.911 ]. 645.280 645.774 SEAN: [@][2@2] 645.490 646.775 BERNARD: [2@2][3@@@@@3] 645.537 645.738 ALICE: [2

2], 645.738 646.860 [3(H) I really am3], 646.860 648.321 this is me= being @as[4sertive. 647.945 648.869 BERNARD: [4, 648.321 649.502 ALICE: @@@ (H)4] 648.869 650.208 BERNARD: and open the4] door fa[5st. 649.933 651.717 FRAN: [5Well there's also a5] lighting system, 650.416 651.168 BERNARD: ..

5] 651.717 653.131 FRAN: that if you [6don't un6]derstand it, 652.074 652.413 ALICE: [6Ah6]. 653.131 654.335 FRAN: it's confusing. 654.335 654.887 Because, 654.887 656.117 there='s a light on the top, 656.117 658.242 that tells you if they're on duty or off duty, 658.242 660.000 (H) and if they have a fare or not. 660.000 661.602 (H) And you can wave forever, 661.602 662.677 and if they have fares, 662.677 663.961 they- c- .. they w[on't stop]. 663.320 663.483 ALICE: [No, 663.483 664.663 they would] always stop and, 664.663 665.371 .. I would get em, 665.371 666.612 it's just the person @behind @me, 666.612 667.627 @pushing me out of the way. 667.627 668.563 Getting into the [cab]. 668.255 668.805 FRAN: [Where] were you, 668.805 670.331 in front of Saks or @something? 670.331 671.481 @@@[@][2@ (H)2] 670.893 671.419 BERNARD: [@][2@2] 670.893 672.207 ALICE: [2Grand Central2] Station pro[3bably3]. 671.986 673.216 FRAN: [3Oh3] [4Grand Central4], 672.321 673.353 BERNARD: [44] 672.321 673.901 ALICE: [4 [5@5] 673.574 673.901 FRAN: [5Oh5], 673.901 674.746 I'm guilty. 674.746 675.495 Grand Central. 675.495 678.058 I had a client in the office building next to [Grand] Central, 677.370 677.608 ALICE: [@] 678.058 680.602 FRAN: and I used to get in there and muscle [2people <@ in front of me @>2]. 679.524 680.682 ALICE: [2It's impossible2]. 680.602 681.602 FRAN: <@ Yeah really @>. 681.602 682.050 @(H) 682.050 683.049 ALICE: .. (H) [I've always] -- 682.419 683.049 FRAN: [Cause it's an], 683.049 684.270 a constant flow. 684.270 685.073 ALICE: .. It's horrible. 685.073 685.752 BERNARD: New Yorker's are -- 685.752 686.103 Yeah. 686.103 686.387 It's -- 686.387 687.187 .. You're in a hurry, 687.187 687.844 you're in a rush, 687.844 689.451 and you learn to be a little assertive. 689.451 690.107 FRAN: ... Yeah=. 690.107 691.238 BERNARD: ... Or is it aggressive. 691.238 692.478 SEAN: ... [Um, 692.188 692.753 FRAN: [Well it's] -- 692.478 694.060 SEAN: who would] [2like what2] to drink with dinner. 692.753 693.126 ALICE: [2@@2] 694.060 694.900 It's ballistic. 694.900 696.103 SEAN: .. Here's the choices. 696.103 696.386 ALICE: -- 696.220 697.205 SEAN: [Min]eral water=, 697.205 699.213 ... root beer=, 699.213 700.965 ... diet soda=, 700.965 703.325 ... or= um==, 703.325 705.880 ... kinda strawberry .. so- .. [.. soda]. 705.215 706.310 ALICE: [How about regular] [2water2]. 705.880 707.061 FRAN: [22] re- u=m, 707.111 708.620 ... mineral water is= what [3I want3], 708.157 708.620 SEAN: [3Okay3], 708.308 709.012 ALICE: [3Regular3] water, 709.012 709.538 do you have [4that4]? 709.265 709.517 SEAN: [4Yep4]. 709.538 710.582 Oh we have lots of that. 710.582 711.462 FRAN: ... ~Sean, 711.462 713.045 I'm looking at all the paintings around, 713.045 714.832 it's wonderful .. to see your work, 714.832 715.275 uh=, 715.275 715.844 SEAN: Thank you. 715.844 720.261 FRAN: ... I particularly like this one. 720.261 721.378 ... There's something, 721.378 722.478 ... that makes it, 722.478 725.042 ... That ... feels almost Japanese about it. 725.042 728.601 SEAN: ... [What]? 728.182 728.826 ALICE: [. 728.826 731.084 FRAN: ... This almost feels Japanese. 731.084 732.159 SEAN: ... (H)= 732.159 732.852 ... Oh, 732.852 733.883 that one goes with -- 733.883 734.998 .. That's um=, 734.998 737.158 ... u=m, 737.158 738.187 ..

, 738.187 739.475 ... Isis and Osiris. 739.475 740.102 Osiris, 740.102 740.580 FRAN: .. Mm. 740.580 740.823 SEAN: and, 740.823 741.177 and, 741.177 743.391 .. with his fourteen pieces ... cut up, 743.391 744.295 a=nd Isis. 744.295 744.998 FRAN: ... Mm=. 744.998 748.274 SEAN: ... But there is a Japanese, 748.274 749.093 because this, 749.093 750.726 (H) .. These were um, 750.726 752.379 ... [old temple hang]ings. 751.265 752.000 FRAN: [XX]? 752.379 752.831 ... Oh. 752.831 754.332 SEAN: .. That I c- uh that I cut up. 754.332 755.110 FRAN: .. Okay. 755.110 755.661 SEAN: ... Yep. 755.661 757.664 ALICE: ... Oh wow. 757.664 758.305 P>. 758.305 761.144 FRAN: ... You cut up the temple hanging you [bar][2bar2][3ian3]? 760.171 760.471 BERNARD: [They were] -- 760.471 760.765 SEAN: [2Well2] -- 760.521 761.787 BERNARD: [2They s2][3tarted3] falling [4apart4]. 761.332 762.786 SEAN: [4They had4] [5fallen5] apart ~Fran. 761.332 762.132 FRAN: [4@@4][5@@5] 762.786 763.832 @@@@@ 763.832 765.862 .. (H) [You ac]tually sa=ved them. 764.144 764.572 SEAN: [I X] -- 765.862 766.681 ALICE: .. [22]. 766.055 766.681 BERNARD: [2Yes2]. 766.681 767.709 SEAN: .. I had tried to- -- 767.709 769.427 .. I have em .. in some pillows, 769.427 771.101 and the pillows had finally had it, 771.101 771.877 (H) and I thought, 771.877 772.664 ... you know=, 772.664 773.909 ... this is it. 773.909 774.812 FRAN: ... Yeah. 774.812 775.750 ALICE: ... Recycling. 775.750 776.252 .. Yes. 776.252 777.115 FRAN: ... Now ~Bernard, 777.115 778.766 some of your work is around too. 778.766 780.497 BERNARD: .. Well there's a couple [sculptures here]. 779.631 780.492 SEAN: [Those heads], 780.497 781.620 FRAN: [2Yes I see2][3=. 780.497 781.495 SEAN: [2they're ~Bernard's2], 781.241 782.028 ALICE: [3I love this3]. 781.620 782.163 FRAN: .. Y3]es, 782.163 783.032 They're won[4derful4]. 782.517 783.295 ALICE: [4. 783.295 785.519 FRAN: ... (H) You know ~Bernard, 785.519 788.590 I hope you aren't disappointed when you go to pick up those two bits, 788.590 789.416 that are .. left, 789.416 790.416 of the sculp[ture], 790.144 790.895 BERNARD: [I] won't be. 790.895 791.334 FRAN: .. You know, 791.334 791.583 but, 791.583 793.565 .. they'll be nice yard orna[ments=]. 792.836 793.565 BERNARD: [Sure]. 793.565 794.703 ... [2And2] -- 794.446 795.497 SEAN: [2What do you2] want to drink ~Bernard. 795.497 797.468 BERNARD: ... I'm gonna have water also. 797.468 797.968 ... P> -- 797.968 798.833 SEAN: ... Fizz[y or], 798.354 798.983 ALICE: [Well how lo]=ng -- 798.983 800.250 ... [2When are you gonna2] be here [33]. 799.162 799.672 BERNARD: [2Fizzy2]. 799.845 800.315 SEAN: [3Okay3]. 800.315 801.615 FRAN: .. I'll be here till Wednesday. 801.615 802.119 ALICE: ...

. 802.899 804.379 FRAN: Well I've been here fo=r, 804.379 805.623 ... since -- 805.623 807.803 I'll- I will have been here two full weeks. 807.803 809.174 ... By the time I leave. 809.174 810.443 ... U=m, 810.443 812.158 but I've just been real busy with, 812.158 815.277 with this chore I was ... taking care of while I was here. 815.277 816.037 ALICE: ... Oh. 816.037 816.597 FRAN: ... So, 816.597 818.051 ... I was .. emptying a storeroom, 818.051 819.541 and shipping some things back east. 819.541 822.032 SEAN: (H) .. Her .. her brother was ~Jerrod ~Laker, 822.032 823.151 the one I took care o[f]? 822.960 823.409 ALICE: [Oh]= yeah. 823.409 826.426 SEAN: ... And she's ... been ... sending his things back. 826.426 828.231 He had- her brother had <@ a lotta things @>. 828.231 828.707 [(H)] 828.298 828.578 FRAN: [Yeah, 828.578 829.767 he] had a [2bunch of stuff2]. 828.887 829.259 ALICE: [2With - 829.259 829.767 He2] -- 829.767 830.857 .. He worked for um, 830.857 831.702 ... ~Benny ~Keller? 831.702 832.029 SEAN: [Yeah]. 831.760 832.426 FRAN: [For y]ears. 832.426 832.925 [2Yes=2]. 832.351 832.901 ALICE: [2Yeah I kne-2] -- 832.901 833.401 I know him. 833.401 833.800 FRAN: ... Yeah. 833.800 834.320 ALICE: I did. 834.320 834.640 FRAN: .. Yeah. 834.640 835.512 ALICE: ... That's your brother? 835.512 835.775 FRAN: Yeah. 835.775 836.924 ALICE: ... . 836.924 837.369 FRAN: ..

. 837.369 838.580 ... (H) So=, 838.580 840.211 hi=s little pri[vate collection]. 839.415 840.556 SEAN: [ drawer] please. 840.556 841.465 ALICE: S[2o- you2][3=- I-3] -- 840.829 841.060 SEAN: [2XX2]. 841.085 842.396 FRAN: [3I'm ..3] s=ending back, 842.396 843.455 and it sounds, 843.455 843.996 ... you know, 843.996 846.079 to use the word collection sounds very [grand, 845.703 846.429 SEAN: [XX X] 846.079 847.639 FRAN: but it's] just real[2ly a2] bunch of, 846.942 847.113 SEAN: [2X2] 847.614 848.719 BERNARD: [33]. 847.614 848.666 ALICE: [3 personal stuff3]. 848.719 849.139 FRAN: Yeah. 849.139 849.678 .. [%Yeah]. 849.324 850.755 ALICE: [He's your] .. [2only= brother2]? 849.995 851.486 SEAN: [23]. 850.755 851.364 FRAN: [3(H) Yes, 851.414 852.504 and3] we were very close. 852.504 853.144 ... So, 853.144 853.992 ... it was uh, 853.992 855.890 SEAN: I have [a little one right here I think]. 854.175 855.151 FRAN: [sad for me, 855.151 855.926 to lose him but], 855.926 857.961 ... ~Sean is .. marvellous. 857.961 859.266 ... Looking after him. 859.266 861.122 ... And a [fellow named Bob Butler al]so, 859.797 860.900 SEAN: []. 861.122 861.932 FRAN: I don't [2know if you know], 861.341 861.878 ALICE: [2I know Bob2]. 861.932 862.357 FRAN: .. Yeah. 862.357 864.441 ... They were .. absolute angels. 864.441 865.160 ALICE: ... Wow. 865.160 865.492 FRAN: So, 865.492 866.355 ALICE: ... When was that. 866.355 867.000 Two years ago? 867.000 868.174 FRAN: ... No. 868.174 869.775 It's= actually quite a whi[le now]. 869.216 869.696 SEAN: [Mm]. 869.775 870.663 FRAN: It's four years. 870.663 871.260 X: .. P>? 871.260 871.565 FRAN: Yeah, 871.565 873.765 it's astounding to me that it's that length of time. 873.765 875.984 ALICE: ... And his stuff was put in [storage]? 875.557 875.907 FRAN: [Hmm]. 875.984 876.984 SEAN: Okay[2=2], 876.557 877.577 BERNARD: [2, 876.984 878.166 FRAN: [3Yeah I just couldn't @belie3][4ve4], 877.577 878.111 BERNARD: .. Help you out FOOD>3]. 878.111 878.361 SEAN: [4Sure4]. 878.361 879.517 ALICE: ... Oh [5wow5][6=6], 878.842 879.513 SEAN: [5Um5][6=6], 879.232 879.707 FRAN: [6For one6] thing, 879.707 880.532 I [7had uh, 879.991 880.821 SEAN: [7You bring the plates7]. 880.532 881.672 FRAN: such a7] tiny apartment. 881.672 882.412 ... U=m, 882.412 884.761 ... when we ... went back to New York, 884.761 885.295 .. u=m, 885.295 887.044 .. I had ... a studio there. 887.044 888.447 ... And .. of course, 888.447 889.497 that was small and, 889.497 890.290 ... and then, 890.290 891.490 we found another studio, 891.490 892.154 ... in uh, 892.154 893.154 in .. our neighborhood, 893.154 894.014 that we liked, 894.014 894.863 .. in the Village, 894.863 896.186 (H) and we moved into that, 896.186 897.311 and we just got so busy, 897.311 899.796 we .. didn't get around to .. moving into a real a[partment, 899.599 899.970 SEAN: [Mm]. 899.796 900.856 FRAN: un]til this past year. 900.856 903.545 ... So that's why .. [2I'm .. doing it2] now. 902.220 903.145 SEAN: [2P>2]. 903.545 904.965 FRAN: .. (H) But I also know, 904.965 906.960 that I wasn't really ready to do it until now. 906.960 907.900 ... So. 907.900 908.627 ... You know, 908.627 909.507 but it's okay now. 909.507 910.691 ALICE: ... Yeah, 910.691 913.271 you know I take care of ... people's estates, 913.271 913.691 and my -- 913.691 917.591 ... my garage is .. f=ill=ed with ... dead people's things. 917.591 918.100 FRAN: ... Yeah. 918.100 918.551 ALICE: ... %That, 918.551 919.685 ... I don't -- 919.685 921.110 ... I wanna toss em. 921.110 921.811 But %it just -- 921.811 923.298 ... Maybe worth something, 923.298 924.627 maybe somebody'll surface, 924.627 927.058 ... so I have like ... four years' worth now. 927.058 927.558 ... of, 927.558 928.898 ... well- -- 928.898 929.664 ... you know, 929.664 930.755 an antique mirror, 930.755 931.144 .. just -- 931.144 933.098 And every once in a while somebody'll sh=ow up and say, 933.098 934.900 ... . 934.900 935.253 . 936.022 937.440 ... and I'll h=and it to em. 937.440 937.811 P>, 937.811 939.148 ... I mean [that just] happened to me, 938.287 938.667 FRAN: [], 939.148 939.928 ALICE: a few weeks [2ago2]. 939.599 940.848 FRAN: [2They're2] excited and happy. 940.848 941.868 ALICE: ... Mhm. 941.868 942.273 FRAN: .. Yeah. 942.273 942.973 [that's] great. 942.273 942.553 ALICE: [And], 942.973 944.313 ... But it's stuff=. 944.313 944.982 FRAN: ... [Yeah]. 944.740 945.320 ALICE: [And] so, 945.320 947.051 .. I don't wanna , 947.051 948.240 cause[= like I'm the only one, 947.258 947.718 BERNARD: [Oh yeah it's, 947.728 948.879 getting XXXX], 948.240 949.238 ALICE: .. I'm in charge] of this, 949.238 949.633 , 949.633 950.362 SEAN: Okay ladies? 950.362 951.382 ALICE: ... You know what I mean? 951.382 951.782 SEAN: Dinner. 951.782 954.107 FRAN: ... It smells divine. 954.107 955.402 ALICE: ... [Oo=]. 954.513 955.402 BERNARD: [ XXP>]. 955.402 956.650 FRAN: ... Where should we [2sit2]. 956.397 956.975 ALICE: [2. 956.652 957.401 SEAN: [3~Fra=n (Hx), 956.975 957.334 ALICE: .. Hey, 957.334 957.774 wait- wait-3], 957.401 958.261 SEAN: ~Al3][4i=ce4], 957.774 958.314 BERNARD: [44], 958.314 959.193 FRAN: [5Did you say ~Fran5]? 958.364 958.984 ALICE: [5I don't know5], 959.193 960.513 I [6don't know if6] this is working. 959.359 959.799 SEAN: [6Yes6]. 960.513 962.249 ALICE: I ha- don't even have a [8cl=ue=8]. 961.324 961.764 FRAN: [8Oh, 961.764 962.299 heaven8]. 962.299 963.196 ALICE: .. It should be going up. 963.196 964.250 BERNARD: Where's [the micropho]ne. 963.343 963.982 ALICE: [This red one]. 964.250 964.876 ... Here. 964.876 967.165 ... ]. 966.457 967.797 SEAN: [It's a ~Sean] concoction. 967.797 967.987 ALICE: It's -- 967.987 970.207 Looks like it's going [too f]ast to be recording. 968.664 969.083 FRAN: [What is it]. 970.207 970.922 BERNARD: .. , 970.922 971.773 that looks right. 971.773 973.210 FRAN: Oh trust [the machinery]. 972.353 973.210 ALICE: [(H) %It-] -- 973.196 973.987 %I= don't. 973.987 974.985 SEAN: If it didn't it didn't. 974.985 976.192 FRAN: (H) [Oh=] this is great, 975.147 975.537 SEAN: [Hey]. 976.192 978.181 FRAN: [2I just got the sa2]me [3fab3]ric, 976.192 977.028 ALICE: [2Where .. do I sit. 977.028 977.384 Here2]? 977.535 977.895 SEAN: [3Here3]. 978.181 978.721 ALICE: I should turn -- 978.721 980.836 FRAN: to do dining @room [@chai][2=rs=2]. 979.713 980.836 ALICE: [2]. 980.119 980.836 SEAN: [2You're kidding2]. 980.836 981.645 FRAN: . 981.645 983.334 (H) I did it .. in navy=, 983.334 984.066 SEAN: ... [Unhunh]? 983.809 984.690 FRAN: [and] go=[2ld2]. 984.512 985.732 SEAN: [2I2] looked at [3the navy=3], 984.983 986.057 FRAN: [3(H) a=3][4=nd, 985.721 986.881 ALICE: [4

4]. 986.057 986.307 FRAN: uh, 986.307 986.907 because4], 986.907 988.092 I had another fabric, 988.092 988.892 it's .. uh, 988.892 992.346 (H) it's= a [gorgeous .. blue][2= with gold2] . 989.952 990.807 BERNARD: []? 990.807 991.693 ALICE: [22]. 992.346 994.032 FRAN: and I wanted to mix the two fabrics. 994.032 995.361 And the red didn't work with it. 995.361 995.816 BERNARD: .. WH>. 995.816 997.066 SEAN: Well I first [had a] -- 996.613 998.241 FRAN: [Cause I] fell in love with the re=[2=d2], 998.116 999.107 SEAN: [2a2] kind of a, 999.107 1001.420 f=lower ... fabric, 1001.420 1002.660 ... that I ha- put [on these]? 1002.091 1002.601 FRAN: [Unhunh]? 1002.660 1003.051 SEAN: .. It -- 1003.051 1004.431 ... The [chair's died]. 1003.531 1004.351 BERNARD: [It was horrible]. 1004.431 1004.935 .. Yeah[2=2]. 1004.630 1005.090 FRAN: [2Yeah2]=. 1005.090 1006.780 SEAN: And so I went to .. the design center, 1006.780 1008.009 and I went to all the places, 1008.009 1008.330 and, 1008.330 1009.319 ... that was the one. 1009.319 1009.760 FRAN: .. Yeah. 1009.760 1011.490 ALICE: ... Why do we have to look at the one I'm % @on. 1011.490 1012.980 [@@@ @@][2@@2] 1011.512 1012.892 BERNARD: [@@@ @@][2@@2] 1012.402 1012.902 FRAN: [2@@@2] 1012.980 1013.260 (H) 1013.260 1013.570 BERNARD: @(H) 1013.570 1013.872 ALICE: (H) 1013.872 1014.675 FRAN: Because you're the s- -- 1014.675 1015.800 you're- you're the slimmest, 1015.800 1017.097 and show the most cu- uh=, 1017.097 1017.297 ALICE: [Oh, 1017.297 1017.766 chair]. 1017.297 1018.022 FRAN: [cushion c]left. 1018.022 1018.446 ALICE: .. Okay, 1018.446 1018.984 [that was] cool. 1018.446 1018.746 FRAN: [Right]. 1018.959 1019.882 BERNARD: Cheers everybody. 1019.882 1020.469 [2] -- 1019.832 1020.760 ALICE: [Cheers] [2ch2][3eers3]. 1020.238 1020.806 FRAN: [2Ch2][3ee3]=rs. 1020.806 1021.702 chee[4=r4]s. 1021.024 1021.702 BERNARD: [4Cheers4]. 1021.702 1023.459 SEAN: ... It's nice to see you ~Fran[5=5]. 1023.355 1024.610 FRAN: [5Lo5]vely to be here. 1024.610 1027.464 X: ... (THROAT) 1027.464 1030.384 ALICE: ... (TSK) I didn't realize that you had such a .. close connection. 1030.384 1031.232 ... That [you] -- 1030.977 1032.417 SEAN: [Oh] yeah [2(Hx), 1031.856 1032.629 ALICE: [2P>2]. 1032.417 1033.446 SEAN: We t2]ook care of ~Jerrod, 1033.446 1034.506 and that's= when we really -- 1034.506 1035.012 ... Well, 1035.012 1036.937 we had ... [.. h=eard of ~Fran, 1035.853 1037.458 FRAN: [That's when I really got to meet em]. 1036.937 1038.385 SEAN: for a long] time from ~Jerrod, 1038.385 1038.751 and, 1038.751 1040.111 but that's how we really met. 1040.111 1041.835 ALICE: ... []. 1040.767 1042.098 BERNARD: [I thought he just made it] up. 1042.098 1043.637 SEAN: .. And then [2she's come, 1042.897 1043.994 FRAN: [2His faux sister2]. 1043.637 1044.630 SEAN: .. almost2] [3every year3]. 1044.044 1044.624 BERNARD: [3Yes3]. 1044.044 1045.802 FRAN: [3His=3] .. fantasy sister. 1045.802 1046.226 BERNARD: Right. 1046.226 1048.397 FRAN: ... (H) Well I used to come out here, 1048.397 1050.300 ALICE: ... to see [your brother]. 1049.692 1051.122 FRAN: [with grea]=t regularity. 1051.122 1051.672 I mean, 1051.672 1053.939 ... I [was out here about every year-. 1052.268 1053.348 ALICE: [Don't you love it out here, 1053.348 1054.139 don't you love it]? 1053.939 1054.419 FRAN: I] do, 1054.419 1054.987 I adore it. 1054.987 1055.253 ALICE: This is- -- 1055.253 1057.122 .. Wouldn't this be in the top three of, 1057.122 1058.067 FRAN: This would be, 1058.067 1058.318 if -- 1058.318 1060.434 .. going to leave New York. 1060.434 1062.640 ... This would definitely be, 1062.640 1064.581 I think this would be my second choice. 1064.581 1066.240 ... A=nd, 1066.240 1068.632 ... the other .. thing I would m=aybe do is, 1068.632 1070.021 go b=ack to New Orleans. 1070.021 1070.734 But then like, 1070.734 1071.063 I don't [know, 1070.957 1071.673 SEAN: [New Orleans]? 1071.063 1073.141 FRAN: maybe come] here in the s=ummer or something. 1073.141 1073.782 Because, 1073.782 1075.833 there in the summer. 1075.833 1076.802 ... , 1076.802 1078.142 (H) but this is definitely, 1078.142 1078.629 (H) and, 1078.629 1079.408 oddly enough, 1079.408 1081.099 do you know where else I might go? 1081.099 1082.885 ... Buffalo New York. 1082.885 1084.225 Is a w=onderful city. 1084.225 1085.800 BERNARD: ... I've heard. 1085.800 1086.625 FRAN: ... [It ha][2s2] -- 1086.038 1086.627 ALICE: [Buffal][2o2]? 1086.414 1087.734 SEAN: [2I2] was on the radio there today. 1087.734 1088.760 FRAN: ... You were[3=3]? 1088.600 1089.105 SEAN: [3Y3]es. 1089.105 1090.091 FRAN: 4]. 1089.552 1089.992 SEAN: [4Double-u -- 1089.992 1090.317 it4] was -- 1090.317 1091.455 .. I don't know what it [5was5]. 1091.069 1091.455 X: [5@5] 1091.455 1092.080 FRAN: .. Unhunh? 1092.080 1093.273 SEAN: .. At two forty-five. 1093.273 1094.961 ... Five forty-five there. 1094.961 1095.921 ... Somebody's show. 1095.921 1096.757 ... Mhm? 1096.757 1098.745 ... Was raining there. 1098.745 1099.979 FRAN: ... It wa[s]? 1099.806 1100.258 SEAN: [M]hm? 1100.258 1100.607 FRAN: Oh. 1100.607 1101.783 ALICE: ~Sean this is [grea=t]. 1101.139 1103.643 FRAN: [Well it's a good day] for people to [2be indoors lis2]tening to the [3radio3]. 1102.245 1102.845 BERNARD: [2Buffalo %2] -- 1103.120 1104.272 SEAN: [3Is that3] where Linda's from? 1104.272 1106.321 FRAN: ... (H) [4Linda's from Cor4]ning. 1105.063 1106.068 BERNARD: [4Or is she up farther4]. 1106.321 1106.961 .. [5Up farther5]. 1106.321 1108.032 FRAN: [5which is=5] uh not too far away. 1108.032 1108.593 But it's [6in the s-6] -- 1108.314 1108.593 BERNARD: [6(THROAT)6] 1108.593 1109.851 FRAN: in the same [7general a7][8rea8]. 1109.168 1109.568 SEAN: [7Mm7]. 1109.568 1110.418 [8.. came8] [9out good9]. 1109.568 1110.418 ALICE: [8It's8] [9great9]. 1110.418 1110.842 FRAN: Mm=. 1110.842 1111.387 ... Is this -- 1111.387 1111.759 We -- 1111.759 1114.040 ... This looks like something we used to call grillades. 1114.040 1115.200 In New- .. in New Orleans. 1115.200 1115.709 What is [it]. 1115.517 1116.083 SEAN:

? 1116.492 1116.962 FRAN:

. 1116.962 1118.274 SEAN: This is red beans and rice, 1118.274 1119.180 [with some] steak, 1118.274 1118.651 FRAN: [Unhunh]? 1119.180 1119.938 SEAN: and um, 1119.938 1122.100 .. (TSK) green and .. and red peppers cut up. 1122.100 1123.177 FRAN: ... . 1123.177 1124.858 BERNARD: ... It is delicious [~Sean]. 1124.385 1124.869 ALICE: [Mm]. 1124.869 1125.887 It's gr=eat. 1125.887 1126.743 BERNARD: ... (THROAT) 1126.743 1129.334 FRAN: ... Did you invent this? 1129.334 1131.457 [Cause it's v]ery like a New Or[2leans recipe2]. 1129.334 1129.836 SEAN: [Mhm]. 1130.624 1131.450 [22]. 1131.457 1133.737 ALICE: ... Mhm. 1133.737 1134.165 FRAN: .. Mm. 1134.165 1135.881 ...

. 1135.881 1137.181 SEAN: .. ], 1142.233 1142.537 ALICE: [Yeah], 1142.537 1143.003 what can I -- 1143.003 1143.574 .. [%You %know], 1143.086 1143.538 SEAN: [And just] -- 1143.573 1145.203 And I'll just a=dd to it, 1145.203 1145.403 and, 1145.403 1146.221 .. that's what I like. 1146.221 1146.804 Is to [add, 1146.567 1147.530 FRAN: [And ja=zz it up]. 1146.803 1148.691 SEAN: I couldn't real]ly follow a recipe. 1148.691 1149.125 FRAN: Mhm? 1149.125 1150.303 SEAN: .. (TSK) I mean I could but, 1150.303 1150.687 Hm FOOD>. 1150.687 1152.287 BERNARD: ... . 1153.541 1154.338 .. I don't know. 1154.338 1154.830 FRAN: Mhm? 1154.830 1156.556 SEAN: ... . 1156.556 1157.720 ALICE: ... Can you do it again. 1157.720 1158.002 No, 1158.002 1158.682 I don't [think] so. 1158.198 1158.478 SEAN: [No]. 1158.682 1159.643 FRAN: ... Well, 1159.643 1162.090 ... my ... cooking .. comes out different, 1162.090 1164.140 ... differently every time. 1164.140 1167.740 ... Every ... time I make .. something, 1167.740 1168.539 ALICE: ... Eve[ry so-] -- 1168.060 1169.683 FRAN: [The only thing] that's consistent is, 1169.683 1171.780 ... my fried chicken, 1171.780 1172.900 pretty much tastes the same, 1172.900 1173.923 .. a=nd, 1173.923 1175.682 ... spaghetti sauce I make, 1175.682 1177.449 ... tastes ... pretty much the same. 1177.449 1179.035 SEAN: ... ? 1179.035 1179.921 FRAN: ... I used to, 1179.921 1181.307 I haven't in .. several years. 1181.307 1181.593 SEAN: Hm. 1181.593 1182.913 FRAN: ... But now, 1182.913 1183.813 I= have a kitchen that, 1183.813 1184.819 again I'll cook. 1184.819 1188.264 ... I at [least I] -- 1187.811 1188.717 SEAN: [You're on the twel]fth floor? 1188.717 1189.639 FRAN: ... Yeah, 1189.639 1190.256 I have great views. 1190.256 1191.314 I'm thrilled with the views. 1191.314 1193.016 ALICE: You can ki- .. cook on the .. twelfth floor? 1193.016 1193.412 FRAN: Mhm? 1193.412 1194.138 SEAN: .. @@[@] 1193.942 1194.425 ALICE: [XX][2X2] X>. 1194.138 1194.743 SEAN: [2Are you2] sure? 1194.743 1195.195 FRAN: Mhm? 1195.195 1195.881 ALICE: .. , 1195.881 1196.711 the pressure though. 1196.711 1197.206 , 1197.206 1197.982 FRAN: ... Mhm? 1197.982 1198.299 ALICE: As you go up? 1198.299 1199.981 FRAN: You have [to adjust for altitude]. 1198.592 1199.960 BERNARD: [I was thinking of the barbecue]. 1199.981 1200.627 FRAN: @[2@@@2] 1200.241 1201.753 BERNARD: [2@@2][3@@3]@@@ 1200.627 1201.078 ALICE: [3That's right3]. 1201.753 1202.711 Everything cooks .. faster. 1202.711 1204.544 BERNARD: .. @I @always run outside and cook. 1204.544 1207.754 FRAN: ... Mm. 1207.754 1209.046 BERNARD: ... The @altitude. 1209.046 1209.942 You have to be careful. 1209.942 1210.185 , 1210.185 1211.180 [Especially with] you're baking. 1210.260 1210.576 FRAN: [Right]. 1211.180 1211.731 BERNARD: .. @@ 1211.731 1212.618 ALICE: [(Hx) @@@@] 1211.791 1212.630 FRAN: [@@@@@] 1212.630 1213.682 SEAN: .. Well ~Fran, 1213.682 1214.791 I've been looking, 1214.791 1215.527 ... really, 1215.527 1216.329 for a year or two, 1216.329 1217.493 at different places to live. 1217.493 1218.634 I went back to Eur=ope, 1218.634 1219.295 FRAN: ... Mhm? 1219.295 1221.417 SEAN: ... to London and Paris, 1221.417 1224.380 ... I've been in Sun Valley, 1224.380 1225.569 .. Tucso=n, 1225.569 1225.955 .. I've been -- 1225.955 1226.880 and Montana, 1226.880 1227.722 Sea=ttle, 1227.722 1229.156 I liked Seattle a lot. 1229.156 1229.520 FRAN: M[hm]? 1229.335 1230.052 SEAN: [But I] couldn't live there. 1230.052 1231.710 ... And -- 1231.710 1233.205 ... Outside of New York, 1233.205 1234.885 and I couldn't go back to live in New York again, 1234.885 1235.446 it's been, 1235.446 1236.311 ... I'm over it. 1236.311 1236.937 FRAN: ... [Mhm]. 1236.622 1238.005 SEAN: [This is] the best place I've found. 1238.005 1238.893 FRAN: ... It -- 1238.893 1239.618 %= [I said] -- 1239.100 1240.203 SEAN: [and ~Alice] always says, 1240.203 1240.716 ALICE: I [2XX2] 1240.361 1241.426 SEAN: [2. 1242.285 1242.954 ALICE: I've looked everywhere. 1242.954 1243.575 SEAN: [@@]@ 1242.954 1243.365 ALICE: [], 1243.575 1244.486 FRAN: [2It's pointless2]. 1243.575 1244.486 ALICE: [2I've looked everywhere2]. 1244.486 1245.080 FRAN: ... Right. 1245.080 1250.723 SEAN: ... This is a tiny little ... geographically wonderful, 1250.723 1251.217 ALICE: .. Haven. 1251.217 1251.579 .. [] -- 1251.374 1251.925 SEAN: [Mhm][2=2]. 1251.579 1251.925 FRAN: [2Bloom2]. 1251.925 1255.585 SEAN: ... . 1255.585 1257.908 ALICE: ... It's whatever it is. 1257.908 1258.511 It [works]. 1258.020 1259.535 SEAN: [It's] ... geography. 1259.535 1263.275 ... But I do miss=, 1263.275 1264.701 .. a lot of things about a city. 1264.701 1266.137 ... (TSK) And about New York. 1266.137 1267.391 FRAN: .. Well we go to the opera, 1267.391 1269.265 ... and I go to museums, 1269.265 1271.326 SEAN: ... M[m], 1271.160 1271.538 FRAN: [A]nd, 1271.538 1272.825 ... I would miss that. 1272.825 1273.571 SEAN: ... Mhm? 1273.571 1276.123 BERNARD: ... The New York opera. 1276.123 1277.119 FRAN: ... The Met. 1277.119 1278.085 BERNARD: ... Mhm. 1278.085 1281.840 ALICE: ... That's the best part of Age of Innocence. 1281.840 1282.691 The beginning of it? 1282.691 1284.096 ... I [just saw that today], 1283.218 1284.085 SEAN: [She went today]. 1284.096 1284.899 FRAN: .. Mm=. 1284.899 1285.427 ALICE: .. And this, 1285.427 1286.731 ... the scene at the opera. 1286.731 1287.080 SEAN: .. [Mm]. 1286.815 1287.338 ALICE: [New] York. 1287.338 1288.355 In eighteen seventy. 1288.355 1289.087 FRAN: .. Mm=. 1289.087 1289.400 ALICE: .. %Th- -- 1289.400 1291.700 ... . 1291.700 1291.963 .. An[=] -- 1291.838 1293.555 SEAN: [] said that's .. [2the best2] thing. 1292.678 1293.255 ALICE: [24] -- 1293.555 1294.316 SEAN: [3the New3] [4York scene4]. 1293.887 1295.893 BERNARD: [4I wonder4] where the opera house was. 1295.893 1296.644 FRAN: ... Oh well, 1296.644 1297.775 SEAN: [It was down o=n, 1296.702 1297.661 FRAN: [when I came to New York, 1297.661 1299.223 it was Thirty]-ninth and s= % -- 1297.775 1298.303 SEAN: Fourteenth St-] -- 1299.223 1300.539 FRAN: ... When I came to New York, 1300.539 1302.403 it was on Thirty-ninth and .. and Broadway. 1302.403 1303.776 ALICE: I think it's at the [big XX]. 1303.035 1304.240 BERNARD: [What year were you] there? 1304.240 1306.013 FRAN: .. Sixty-f- ... four. 1306.013 1308.316 ... There were -- 1308.316 1310.022 ... It was the last [season there], 1309.253 1309.763 BERNARD: [They were b- -- 1309.763 1310.017 Oh], 1310.017 1311.391 they were building Lincoln Center. 1311.391 1312.467 SEAN: That was [2the old o2]pera house. 1311.667 1312.065 BERNARD: [2Because2], 1312.467 1313.842 FRAN: That was the last sea[3son there3], 1313.376 1314.385 BERNARD: [3Cause I was3] there, 1314.385 1315.697 I- I .. was there, 1315.697 1318.145 ... just as Lincoln Center [was being f]inished, 1317.317 1317.749 >ENV: [((DOG_BARK))] 1318.145 1318.428 BERNARD: [2and2], 1318.120 1318.800 SEAN: [2I'm hun2][3gry3]. 1318.428 1320.022 FRAN: [3So that would3] have been sixty-[4six4]. 1319.455 1320.232 ALICE: [4So goo=d4]. 1320.182 1321.302 BERNARD: ...

? 1321.302 1323.543 ... I have it written down some place. 1323.543 1324.694 Those years are all [foggy]. 1324.200 1325.255 FRAN: [Sixty-f]i=ve. 1325.255 1326.610 BERNARD: ... Sixty-five, 1326.610 1327.448 sixty-si[x], 1327.240 1327.942 FRAN: [S]omething like that. 1327.942 1330.484 BERNARD: .. And Leontyne Price sang Cleopatra [in], 1330.259 1331.092 FRAN: [Oh] my[2=2]. 1330.700 1331.156 BERNARD: [2One of the2], 1331.156 1332.337 FRAN: .. (TSK) ... Mm=. 1332.337 1333.937 That would have been won[derful to see]. 1333.084 1334.376 SEAN: [Th- was it the old] opera house, 1334.376 1335.079 [2or the new one2]. 1334.376 1335.079 BERNARD: [2No the new2]. 1335.079 1335.734 Lincoln [3Center3]. 1335.395 1335.734 SEAN: [3Oh3]. 1335.734 1336.300 BERNARD: It had just, 1336.300 1337.706 FRAN: ... It['s] -- 1337.400 1338.325 BERNARD: [just] been opened. 1338.325 1340.042 FRAN: ... (H) Well I like it. 1340.042 1340.580 ... I mean, 1340.580 1341.093 BERNARD: .. . 1342.745 1343.648 FRAN: ... Ye[ah. 1343.535 1345.710 BERNARD: [The one that's from ... eigh]teen, 1343.656 1344.438 FRAN: But the=], 1345.710 1347.442 ... % I don't know when it- -- 1347.442 1347.747 You know, 1347.747 1348.543 they tore it down, 1348.543 1349.528 and I don't .. remember -- 1349.528 1350.611 [I was too new] -- 1349.528 1350.611 ALICE: [@You'll be able to see in the movie], 1350.611 1351.513 if= you [2recognize2]. 1351.014 1352.223 FRAN: [2I was too2] new in New York, 1352.223 1355.174 ... to= ... understand what it meant. 1355.174 1355.650 [You know], 1355.266 1355.568 SEAN: [Mm]. 1355.650 1356.721 FRAN: ... So, 1356.721 1361.557 ALICE: ... Well I grew up in Philadelphia, 1361.557 1362.904 and that's too close to New York. 1362.904 1363.909 SEAN: ... [@] 1363.655 1365.132 ALICE: [I] used to go there .. a=ll the time. 1365.132 1365.885 FRAN: .. Mhm. 1365.885 1366.862 ALICE: ... On the train. 1366.862 1368.776 ... Every Wednesday. 1368.776 1369.594 .. On theater day. 1369.594 1371.895 SEAN: ... Oh you went a lo=t. 1371.895 1372.933 ALICE: ... A=ll the time. 1372.933 1373.965 Cause I was ] -- 1373.557 1375.804 BERNARD: [And all] that [2time you never learned2] to <@ get a cab @>. 1374.123 1374.906 ALICE: [2I love theater2]. 1375.804 1377.963 BERNARD: [3@@@@3][4@4][5@@@5] 1375.804 1376.768 ALICE: [3@@ @No3]. 1376.768 1377.302 [4.. Oh4] [5no, 1376.768 1377.220 FRAN: [4Right4], 1376.768 1377.220 SEAN: [4@4] 1377.302 1377.963 ALICE: I would 5], 1377.963 1378.380 [6I6] mean, 1377.963 1378.881 BERNARD: [6@6][7@7][8@8] 1378.380 1380.142 ALICE: [7. 1378.380 1378.582 SEAN: [7@7] 1380.142 1382.446 ... I'm not good at @cabs. 1382.446 1383.146 @@@ 1383.146 1386.641 FRAN: ... Next time you come to New York, 1386.641 1387.295 ALICE: @@@ 1387.295 1388.479 FRAN: .. you must call me my dear, 1388.479 1389.957 I [will give] you taxi les[2sons2]. 1388.595 1388.852 ALICE: [(H)] 1389.630 1389.957 [2@@2] 1389.957 1391.078 FRAN: .. @@@@ 1391.078 1400.694 ... See what you do is, 1400.694 1401.798 you sort of sidle up to em, 1401.798 1402.771 and you give em a bump. 1402.771 1403.974 ... And then you get in. 1403.974 1404.813 SEAN: @[@@] 1404.433 1404.813 FRAN: [@@] 1404.813 1405.770 ALICE: [2@@2]@@@ 1404.813 1405.339 BERNARD: [2@@2] 1405.770 1406.582 @[3@@3][4@4] 1406.065 1407.069 ALICE: [3I have3] [4box4][5ing gl5]oves, 1406.415 1406.867 FRAN: [4@4][5@5] 1407.069 1407.585 ALICE: [6every6]thing. 1407.069 1407.371 FRAN: [66]. 1407.585 1408.616 BERNARD: .. @@@ 1408.616 1409.690 SEAN: ... (TSK) I never had trouble. 1409.690 1410.737 ALICE: Something spray=, 1410.737 1411.424 You're big. 1411.424 1412.190 [You're a big] [2man2]. 1411.424 1411.663 SEAN: [Yeah, 1411.663 1412.190 that's] [2true2]. 1411.909 1412.190 BERNARD: [2No2], 1412.190 1413.722 ALICE: [3I'm this3] lit[4tle person you know4], 1412.190 1412.597 BERNARD: [3It was3] -- 1412.815 1413.722 [4It was a game4]. 1413.722 1415.336 ... To me it was like a game, 1415.361 1416.593 get it or not. 1416.593 1417.471 ALICE: I never got it. 1417.471 1418.373 SEAN: .. @@@@ 1418.373 1419.409 ALICE: .. I mean really. 1419.409 1420.636 ... I'm used to getting what I want. 1420.636 1421.388 But @n- @(Hx), 1421.388 1422.697 SEAN: ... @ 1422.697 1423.760 ALICE: ...

]. 1423.421 1425.284 BERNARD: [I] couldn't have been greener when I went. 1425.284 1426.720 I mean this California, 1426.720 1428.926 FRAN: ... @@@[@@] 1428.409 1428.908 BERNARD: [you know], 1428.926 1430.263 all I knew was the beach. 1430.263 1431.174 ... @@ 1431.174 1432.525 ... <@ And there I was, 1432.525 1433.399 in New York city @>. 1433.399 1433.699 @ 1433.699 1434.637 FRAN: ... Did [you like it]? 1434.154 1434.680 SEAN: []? 1434.637 1435.838 FRAN: ... How [2long did you2] stay. 1435.021 1435.481 BERNARD: [2Loved it2]. 1435.838 1436.440 Four years. 1436.440 1438.447 FRAN: ... Where'd you live. 1438.447 1444.306 BERNARD: ... Eighty-first ... and First, 1444.306 1444.739 FRAN: .. Mhm? 1444.739 1446.471 BERNARD: ... then, 1446.471 1451.080 .. S=ixty=- ... -fourth and ... Second, 1451.080 1451.675 FRAN: .. Mhm? 1451.675 1452.407 BERNARD: ... and then, 1452.407 1453.645 ... the Lower East Side. 1453.645 1455.899 ... West ... Tenth. 1455.899 1456.790 FRAN: ... Well, 1456.790 1457.791 that's not the Lower East Side. 1457.791 1459.018 West Tenth is the [Village]. 1458.592 1459.244 BERNARD: [Oh no] wait. 1459.244 1460.080 Not West Tenth, 1460.080 1460.734 it must've been, 1460.734 1462.851 ...

]. 1461.880 1462.851 FRAN: [East Tenth]? 1462.901 1463.861 BERNARD: ... Yeah. 1463.861 1464.564 .. East Tenth. 1464.564 1465.120 FRAN: ... Mhm? 1465.120 1467.760 BERNARD: ... That's right. 1467.760 1468.668 ... It changes. 1468.668 1469.834 FRAN: ... Right, 1469.834 1470.656 at Fifth Avenue. 1470.656 1472.814 BERNARD: ... I think between First and Second or, 1472.814 1473.278 FRAN: Mhm? 1473.278 1475.405 BERNARD: ... I wasn't down in A's bee's and cee's, 1475.405 1475.737 FRAN: Righ[t. 1475.595 1476.676 BERNARD: [It wasn't down that far]. 1475.737 1476.693 FRAN: Alphabet city]. 1476.693 1477.204 BERNARD: .. Yeah. 1477.204 1477.605 FRAN: Right. 1477.605 1478.908 ALICE: ... Do you have any kids? 1478.908 1479.584

? 1479.584 1481.275 FRAN: My .. husband has two children. 1481.275 1481.916 ... A=nd, 1481.916 1483.222 ALICE: Did [you raise em in New York]? 1482.168 1483.222 >ENV: [<ENV: DOGS_BARKING>> 1508.997 1510.651 FRAN: T- I'll be ten years in=, 1510.651 1511.126 next month. 1511.126 1511.873 BERNARD: ... Ah=. 1511.873 1512.395 FRAN: .. So, 1512.395 1513.803 ... It's great. 1513.803 1514.758 ... We get along great. 1514.758 1515.145 I mean, 1515.145 1516.193 ... delight -- 1516.193 1517.569 BERNARD: ... that- that- that- -- 1517.569 1518.469 .. [That helps]. 1517.792 1518.724 SEAN: [That's wonder]ful. 1518.724 1519.164 ALICE: [2That2] [3is3]. 1518.724 1519.175 BERNARD: [2@2][3@3] 1518.918 1519.164 FRAN: [3Well3], 1519.175 1519.540 ALICE: [4That's4] -- 1519.175 1520.650 FRAN: [4I was4] the world's oldest bride. 1520.650 1520.865 I mean, 1520.865 1521.484 I waited, 1521.484 1522.112 and waited. 1522.112 1522.813 <@ And waited. 1522.813 1523.475 and waited, 1523.475 1525.052 (H) and everyone had given up @>. 1525.052 1526.346 (H) @@ (H) 1526.346 1526.706 But, 1526.706 1528.053 ... when I finally did it, 1528.053 1528.680 I'm .. I'm, 1528.680 1530.481 .. % I'm= delighted that I waited. 1530.481 1531.432 ... You know. 1531.432 1532.481 ... so, 1532.481 1535.014 SEAN: ... Sure. 1535.014 1536.116 Found somebody fun, 1536.116 1536.702 FRAN: [Mhm]? 1536.116 1537.675 SEAN: [somebody with] ... interests and, 1537.675 1539.537 BERNARD: ... ? 1539.537 1540.150 FRAN: .. M[hm]? 1539.701 1540.605 ALICE: [A bad] [2name2] though, 1540.130 1540.448 BERNARD: [2(THROAT)2] 1540.605 1541.005 ALICE: Larry. 1541.005 1542.440 ... That [was my] husband's name. 1541.549 1541.776 SEAN: [The] -- 1542.440 1543.947 BERNARD: @@[2@@@2][3@@3] 1542.838 1543.440 FRAN: [22]? 1543.440 1544.192 ALICE: [3I'm sor3]ry. 1544.192 1544.854 .. Ugh. 1544.854 1549.120 ...