0.000 2.648 LISA: .. (H) [((IMITATING_BABY_BREATHING))]= 1.004 1.965 KEVIN: []. 2.648 5.458 LISA: ((IMITATING_BABY_BREATHING))[2=2] 4.823 5.612 MARIE: [2You should have heard2] him, 5.612 7.029 the night we took him to the emergency room. 7.029 7.958 [He sounded worse]. 7.029 7.958 LISA: [@I pr- if- %] -- 7.958 8.279 I know, 8.279 9.826 I would probably've [been totally freaked out]. 8.631 9.652 KEVIN: [That's sca=ry]. 9.826 11.426 LISA: (H) Maybe it's good he didn't stay with me, 11.426 12.508 I'd've been like 12.766 14.261 MARIE: ... Yeah, 14.261 14.752 he was -- 14.752 15.451 KEVIN: []. 14.752 15.947 MARIE: [He was=] um=, 15.947 17.150 LISA: ... I'd be like Mom, 17.150 17.357 uh, 17.357 18.121 what should we do with this child. 18.121 20.193 MARIE: .. Well his temperature was a hundred and four point five. 20.193 21.566 LISA: ... That is so high. 21.566 22.766 KEVIN: He's lucky [that he didn't] -- 22.292 23.419 LISA: [How long] was he there. 23.419 23.871 That [2high2]. 23.617 24.058 KEVIN: [2How l2]ong, 24.058 24.730 .. do you know? 24.730 25.599 MARIE: Uh his fever? 25.599 26.121 KEVIN: .. [Yeah]. 25.599 26.400 MARIE: [I don't] know. 26.400 28.152 KEVIN: ... That's da=ngerou% -- 28.152 28.907 I mean [ XX] -- 28.309 29.225 MARIE: [The doctor s]aid, 28.309 28.907 LISA: [Cause he could have], 29.225 29.913 brain damage[2=2]. 29.809 31.402 MARIE: [2The2] doctor said that .. th- um, 31.402 33.404 .. (TSK) his pediatrician cause I asked him about it, 33.404 37.147 (H) and he said that they don't hospitalize until they go up to like a hundred and seven. 37.147 38.230 .. And that's where it's fatal. 38.230 39.221 (H) And I was like, 39.221 39.514 well, 39.514 40.129 .. you [know], 39.830 41.074 LISA: [What a]bout brain damage. 41.074 42.725 ... That doesn't matter or, 42.725 43.934 MARIE: ... M=m=m[=]. 43.586 45.316 LISA: [Excuse] me brain damage is important . 45.316 47.299 ... [2(TSK)2] 46.934 49.838 MARIE: [2(H)2] He said actually f=evers ... %=are -- 49.838 51.003 (H) .. How did he explain it, 51.003 51.512 he said something like, 51.512 51.985 fethers -- 51.985 52.927 Fevers are like, 52.927 53.628 ... um, 53.628 55.387 .. (H) .. good for babies like, 55.387 56.559 when they're i- b- getting sick, 56.559 58.874 because they help .. the immune system fight harder. 58.874 59.337 Somehow. 59.337 61.061 LISA: (H) [= Well tha]t's what the -- 59.923 60.369 MARIE: [I don't know], 61.061 62.369 LISA: ... I mean that's what -- 62.369 63.964 The reason the body gets that hot, 63.964 65.889 is like to kill the germs or whatever I think. 65.889 67.176 .. Isn't that part of it? 67.176 69.409 MARIE: ... Yes doctor ~Kevin, 69.409 69.929 tell us. 69.929 71.362 [@ @@@@@@] 69.929 71.362 KEVIN: [@@@@@@@@] 69.929 71.244 LISA: [.. No I'm pretty -- 71.244 72.112 I'm] pretty sure, 72.112 73.194 I'm pretty sure that's part of it, 73.194 75.058 (H) but %=uh it's just that you have to watch out, 75.058 75.518 cause then, 75.518 77.717 if it gets too hot it's bad for the brain. 77.717 78.331 MARIE: It's like a car, 78.331 79.144 it overheats. 79.144 79.598 [@@@ 79.144 80.289 KEVIN: [@@@@@ (H) 79.598 80.630 MARIE: <@ And stalls out= @>]. 80.289 81.033 KEVIN: <@ M=ay]be, 81.033 81.430 I don't @> -- 81.430 81.796 I % -- 81.796 83.342 LISA: VOX>]. 82.639 83.494 KEVIN: [I'm not . 83.494 84.734 LISA: . 84.734 86.100 KEVIN: ... Who's all the . 86.100 87.515 .. I know the one in the lower right. 87.515 88.115 LISA: Which one? 88.115 89.400 MARIE: .. This one .. is mine. 89.400 90.901 @@@[@@@@ (H)] 89.795 90.532 KEVIN: [@@@ (H) 90.532 91.575 I rec][2ognize him2] [3alr-3]. 90.901 91.436 LISA: [2I=ssac2]. 91.424 93.208 MARIE: [3That3]'s the one that's ten days older than him, 93.208 93.686 that's Michael's -- 93.720 94.879 % Those [are Michael's] neph[2ews2], 94.027 94.374 LISA: [Jose], 94.661 95.419 KEVIN: [2that's2] Jo[3se=3], 95.054 95.740 LISA: [3Jose and3] then, 95.740 97.144 MARIE: [4and then Gino's the one in the4] middle. 95.740 96.890 LISA: [4Gino is in the middle4]. 97.144 98.093 MARIE: That's [5his sister5]. 97.322 98.843 KEVIN: [5Aw= he's5] ... a bit older. 98.843 99.130 [6Right6]? 98.843 99.509 MARIE: [6Yeah he's6] three. 99.509 101.593 KEVIN: ... He doesn't [7look that7] -- 101.177 102.011 LISA: [7(H) H7]e's o- -- 102.011 102.764 He's three. 102.764 104.137 .. Is he talking any more? 104.137 106.469 ... Is he talking good now? 106.469 107.345 MARIE: .. You can't understan- -- 107.345 107.616 He -- 107.616 108.543 You ca=n but, 108.543 109.204 .. then you can't. 109.204 110.602 Sometimes some of the things he says. 110.602 113.396 LISA: .. (H) Does he talk big long things but you just can't understand em? 113.396 114.453 ... No, 114.453 115.188 he's okay then. 115.188 116.290 KEVIN: ..

. 116.290 117.594 LISA: (H) . 117.594 119.125 KEVIN: @@@[@@@@@ (H)] 118.021 119.721 MARIE: [@= @@@@] [2(H)2] 119.125 119.356 LISA: [2No, 119.356 120.128 there's two2] [3different wa-3] -- 119.721 119.965 MARIE: [3Yeah, 119.965 121.445 ps3]ychotherapist [4@~Lisa4], 120.988 123.072 LISA: [4No no no4] [5no no no n- no= no= n- no=. 121.454 123.299 MARIE: [5@= @@@@@@@@5] 121.454 123.299 KEVIN: [5@@@@@@@5] 123.299 124.570 LISA: (H)5] It's just two different ways. 124.570 124.883 .. Like, 124.883 125.701 kids can either like, 125.701 126.729 they'll say one word, 126.729 128.065 ... but they'll say it really, 128.065 129.109 .. like pretty clear, 129.109 130.882 (H) ... and that's the way they're th- -- 130.882 132.432 They'll have like .. twenty words or whatever, 132.432 133.518 and they'll just ask for one thing. 133.518 135.071 (H) And then there's other ki=ds who go, 135.071 136.048 ? 136.048 137.805 .. And there'll [be a word in there somewhere]? 136.536 137.805 KEVIN: [@@@@@ .. @] 137.805 138.820 LISA: (H) And there's a -- 138.120 138.820 >BABY: < he drinks too fast. 149.073 150.149 .. It just went down the wrong pipe. 150.149 151.040 >BABY: COUGHING>> 150.149 152.941 KEVIN: ... You need to burp? 152.941 156.048 >BABY: ... (CRY) ... (CRY) 156.048 156.809 KEVIN: [It wasn't that bad. 156.048 156.665 LISA: []. 156.809 157.710 KEVIN .. @@@ (H)] 157.710 159.200 LISA: ... (H) But um, 159.200 160.292 ... anyways. 160.292 162.362 ... [So it's just a d- like a different] style. 160.757 161.877 KEVIN: [X ]. 162.362 164.534 LISA: ... . 164.534 165.602 KEVIN: [They're allowed] to do it either way. 164.534 164.986 MARIE: [(TSK) (H)] 165.602 167.011 LISA: ... <@ They're allow[2=ed @>. 166.782 169.481 KEVIN: [2@@@@@@ (H) @@ .. @=@2] 167.011 169.279 LISA: (H) 2]. 169.481 171.668 ... (H) . 171.668 175.306 KEVIN: ... (TSK) ... Is he a righ- -- 175.306 176.045 Are you a righty? 176.045 176.740 You're a righty. 176.740 181.024 MARIE: ... It's funny cause, 181.024 181.756 h- he'll be like, 181.756 182.542 he'll get up in the morning, 182.542 184.443 he'll sit in front of the TV with his bottle in one hand, 184.443 185.342 just watching @TV, 185.342 185.913 KEVIN: [@@@@] 185.342 186.682 MARIE: [(H) like] half asleep, 186.682 187.083 [2you know, 186.682 188.021 KEVIN: [2@@@ @@@ @(H)2] 187.083 187.568 MARIE: @he's @a, 187.568 188.487 (H)2] and I'm like, 188.487 188.923 Go=-. 188.923 190.247 (H) [While ago he] was sitting here, 189.204 189.606 KEVIN: [] -- 190.247 191.693 MARIE: and he was watch[2ing the football game2], 190.841 191.693 LISA: [2Like his grandpa2]. 191.693 193.655 MARIE: ... he [3was wa3]tching the football game. 192.399 192.658 KEVIN: [3@3] 193.655 195.179 MARIE: ... @[4@@@@@4] 194.166 195.690 LISA: [4@@@ @=4] [5(H) 194.166 195.705 KEVIN: [4.. (H)= That's4] [5low=, 195.690 196.096 5] -- 195.690 196.726 LISA: Bottle in5] one hand, 196.726 197.416 [6half asleep6][7=, 196.726 198.812 KEVIN: [6@@6] [7.. @@@@@ @(H)7] 197.416 198.812 MARIE: [7@@@@ (H)7] 197.416 198.222 LISA: watching @TV, 198.222 199.834 @@@@7] [8@ .. @(H)8] 198.812 199.834 KEVIN: [8<@ That's low @>8]. 199.834 202.095 LISA: [9<@ XXX9] [this picture @>]. 199.834 201.129 MARIE: [9.. Thanks a lo=9][=t, 200.943 202.095 KEVIN: [@@@@] 201.129 202.086 MARIE: you witch]. 202.095 202.865 LISA: [2@@ (H) 202.095 203.368 KEVIN: [2@@ .. @2] 202.865 203.368 LISA: What2]? 203.368 204.247 MARIE: You witch. 204.247 206.115 LISA: <@ It's true=[= @>]. 205.330 206.267 KEVIN: [@@@ (H)] 206.267 206.762 >BABY: (COUGH) 206.762 207.676 KEVIN: ]. 207.676 208.844 KEVIN: you're dwibbling= VOX>. 208.844 209.768 LISA: .. ? 209.768 210.639 KEVIN: . 210.639 213.336 LISA: ... @@ ... @Gro=ss. 213.336 214.244 (H) % Um, 214.244 214.895 KEVIN: Oh=. 214.895 216.266 LISA: try not to spit [all over ]. 215.741 217.117 KEVIN: [Ba=by s]=lo=bber, 217.117 217.741 ew=. 217.741 218.080 MARIE: @ 218.080 218.219 LISA: @ 218.219 219.607 MARIE: ... You [X] seen it was gross, 218.589 218.731 KEVIN: [X] 219.607 219.913 MARIE: Michael, 219.913 221.407 (H) Michael's shirt was all wet, 221.407 221.941 from [right here, 221.941 222.753 KEVIN: [@= @@@@] 221.941 223.075 MARIE: from him just dr]ooling. 223.075 223.538 KEVIN: @@@ 223.538 224.590 MARIE: ... [It was] [2gross, 223.997 224.242 KEVIN: [(H)] 224.242 225.639 LISA: [2(H) Probably he was2] % opening- -- 224.590 225.275 MARIE: and we X2], 225.639 226.724 LISA: .. Breathing through his mouth more, 226.724 227.660 cause he couldn't breathe through his [nose ] -- 227.405 227.897 MARIE: [Mm]=. 227.897 229.474 .. (H) And then he couldn't even breathe, 229.474 229.858 he had, 229.858 230.537 ... um, 230.537 232.384 ... they had this .. thing, 232.384 233.957 it was this [big old] long old tube, 232.754 233.015 LISA: [Here]. 233.957 235.567 MARIE: ... and it was funny cause, 235.567 236.047 like, 236.047 236.791 .. [we could] -- 236.047 236.791 >BABY: [(COUGH) (COUGH)] 236.791 237.821 MARIE: .. They put a mist, 237.821 238.133 LISA: Child, 238.133 238.772 you're having [problems]. 238.420 239.741 MARIE: [And you could j]ust see like smoke, 239.741 240.277 .. you know, 240.277 240.961 like a mist, 240.961 241.887 like a humidifier, 241.887 242.899 [coming] out and I was like, 241.887 242.295 KEVIN: [Mhm]. 241.887 242.295 LISA: [Mhm]. 242.899 243.379 MARIE: (GASP) 243.379 243.879 [and I was all] -- 243.379 244.204 KEVIN: [(TSK) Out of his] throat, 244.204 245.209 I mean , 245.209 245.733 in [where did it], 245.394 245.604 MARIE: [No, 245.604 246.495 they] stuck it in a tu- -- 246.495 247.357 It came out of a tube, 247.357 248.367 and I just had to hold it like, 248.367 249.697 (H) around his face[=], 249.534 250.014 KEVIN: [Oh]=, 250.014 251.003 [2oh okay2] [3okay3]. 250.014 250.622 MARIE: [2so that he could2] -- 250.622 250.978 LISA: [33]. 250.622 251.641 MARIE: [3It was3] oxygen, 251.641 252.967 ... but they put a mist in it, 252.967 253.597 so that he could -- 253.597 255.661 (H) They didn't want to stick % oxygen tube up his nose, 255.661 256.423 or put a mask on him, 256.423 257.303 cause he'd .. take it off. 257.303 258.164 LISA: .. [Mhm]. 257.687 258.164 MARIE: [(SNIFF)] 258.164 258.975 (TSK) And it was funny, 258.975 261.209 because every time like he'd see a person wearing blue=, 261.209 261.636 he'd be all, 261.636 262.694 (GASP) (GASP) (GASP) 262.694 263.606 and he'd start like, 263.606 264.746 [not breathing], 263.606 265.390 KEVIN: [@=@@@@@@][2@@@2] 264.746 266.881 LISA: [2@Oh=2][3= @@@@@ @(H)3] 264.746 265.390 MARIE: [2and then he'd like2], 265.390 266.578 [3@=@@ (H) -- 266.578 267.290 And then it3] would sto- -- 267.290 268.306 And they'd be all , 268.306 269.172 and they'd walk out of the room, 269.172 270.358 cause they didn't want to excite him, 270.358 271.878 cause they didn't want him to .. hyperventilate. 271.878 273.218 LISA: ]. 273.218 274.455 KEVIN: [ he's doing] better. 274.455 276.144 MARIE: ... And then the doctor comes in, 276.144 276.857 and he just looks at him, 276.857 278.003 and then they stick this fing- -- 278.003 279.208 (H) thing on his finger? 279.208 280.640 ... It's like light sensored? 280.640 282.352 .. (H) And they have to guard it from the light, 282.352 283.859 and that's what measures his heart rate? 283.859 286.277 .. And it measures .. his oxygen .. percent, 286.277 287.535 how much oxygen [he's getting]. 287.025 287.535 KEVIN: [Wild]. 287.535 288.047 LISA: .. Cool? 288.047 288.738 MARIE: .. It was weird. 288.738 289.635 [And he was all in] -- 288.738 290.156 KEVIN: [Did his oxygen] get low? 290.156 290.499 Or=, 290.499 290.843 MARIE: Yeah, 290.843 292.221 [it was] like eighty-six percent. 290.843 291.048 LISA: [Yeah]? 292.221 292.744 KEVIN: .. Which -- 292.744 293.744 Of what's[=] -- 293.203 294.658 LISA: [Supposed to be] [2like ninety2] what? 293.744 294.364 MARIE: [2A hundred2]. 294.658 295.948 ... U=m, 295.948 296.637 adults [are probably] -- 296.308 297.848 LISA: [Like ninety]-seven's okay I think. 297.848 302.120 MARIE: ... (TSK) (H) Adults are [2supposed to2] be anywhere from like ninety-three to .. on up. 299.183 299.430 LISA: [2X2] 302.120 303.036 You gonna .. go down? 303.036 304.419 MARIE: ... But [anything] -- 303.868 304.309 KEVIN: [And you ha- -- 304.309 305.721 Ba]bies higher or [2lower2]. 305.283 305.721 MARIE: [2Yeah2], 305.283 306.425 LISA: [23]? 305.721 306.685 MARIE: [3babies are usually3] higher, 306.685 307.463 because you know [4they % -- 307.173 308.673 LISA: [44]. 307.463 308.858 MARIE: They haven't been around as @lo4][5=ng. 308.673 309.243 KEVIN: [5@@@5] 308.858 309.888 LISA: @@5]@@@@@ 309.888 310.390 KEVIN: So she -- 310.390 310.709 Yeah, 310.709 311.103 so=, 311.103 312.369 he was really not doing well. 312.369 312.804 MARIE: No=. 312.804 314.443 (H) Nobody should really be that low. 314.443 315.275 ... I mean, 315.275 316.492 .. people that are that low there's, 316.492 318.018 .. they have [asthma] [2and stuff2] [3like that3]. 316.944 318.018 KEVIN: [3]. 317.302 317.599 LISA: [2 like2] -- 318.018 318.393 Yeah. 318.393 319.106 Or emphysema. 319.106 320.422 KEVIN: . 320.422 321.991 MARIE: ... But he was -- 321.991 322.531 [And his heart] -- 321.991 322.949 LISA: [What was his] heart rate? 322.949 323.915 MARIE: .. Two o four. 323.915 324.796 LISA: .. And it's supposed to be, 324.796 328.019 MARIE: ... I think he said like o=ne sixty-eight or something. 328.019 328.187 KEVIN: Well, 328.187 330.143 .. babies are supposed to have really high heart [rates]. 329.470 331.374 LISA: [But] one sixty-eight versus two o four? 331.374 332.194 KEVIN: That's still scary. 332.194 333.922 MARIE: ... (H) And he'd just do, 333.922 334.774 % he was doing %it, 334.774 336.110 .. when he'd get really excited, 336.110 337.523 so that's why they were staying away from him. 337.523 338.782 .. (H) .. And uh, 338.782 341.279 we had to hold him down for them to give him a shot in his thigh=, 341.279 342.074 LISA: .. A shot=, 342.074 342.729 why'd they give him a shot. 342.729 344.765 MARIE: ... To make the swelling go down in his throat. 344.765 346.876 KEVIN: ... Oh=, 346.876 347.770 did he get it in his bottom? 347.770 349.411 MARIE: ... N=o, 349.411 350.184 right here in his thigh. 350.184 351.509 KEVIN: ... How is he about shots. 351.509 353.793 MARIE: ... He cries. 353.793 354.829 LISA: Probably [not good anymore. 354.052 355.598 KEVIN: [@= @@@@@@] 354.829 355.776 LISA: @=@@ @@] @ 355.776 357.382 MARIE: I remember the first time I took him for a shot. 357.382 358.158 [%= You know he was ], 357.382 358.983 LISA: [(H) He did not] care at all. 358.983 359.529 [2He's a=ll2], 358.983 359.529 KEVIN: [2@@2] 359.529 360.534 LISA: happy-go-lu[3=cky3]. 360.146 361.319 KEVIN: [3VOX>4]. 360.534 360.898 MARIE: [4He was all, 360.898 361.319 , 361.827 362.321 like that. 362.321 363.665 And then .. after that it was okay. 363.665 364.770 ... And then like, 364.770 365.065 KEVIN: @ 365.065 366.413 ... [(H) That's good]. 365.348 366.712 MARIE: [the next time I took him] he's all, 366.712 367.596 (H) (SCREAM) 367.596 369.103 [I was all . 367.596 368.479 KEVIN: [@@@@] 369.103 370.122 MARIE: And [2then I pick2]ed him up, 369.251 369.706 LISA: [2XX2] 370.122 371.742 MARIE: and his legs were bleeding and stuff, 371.742 372.862 and I had blood all on my shirt, 372.862 374.945 and I was all [@@@(H)]. 374.094 374.945 LISA: [Blood- %(Hx)] -- 374.945 375.562 MARIE: (H) Blood, 375.562 376.579 cause he bleeds. 376.579 378.501 ... (TSK) (H) After they give him a shot? 378.501 378.987 KEVIN: But don't they, 378.987 380.494 like [put a thing on it right af]ter? 379.097 380.302 LISA: [But that mu=ch=]? 380.494 381.309 MARIE: ... No, 381.309 382.354 but it was just coming out. 382.354 382.848 Do you know what I mean, 382.848 383.154 it was like, 383.154 383.439 [mm], 383.154 383.881 KEVIN: [Well they] should've have put, 383.881 385.748 I mean usual[2ly you know like when you like2] [3give bloo=d, 384.338 385.141 MARIE: [2A bandaid2]? 385.141 386.385 LISA: [3But it wasn't all= ov3]er, 385.748 386.176 KEVIN: they use3], 386.385 387.032 LISA: it was just like=, 387.032 387.940 .. a [little dr]ibble. 387.234 387.591 MARIE: [It had] -- 387.940 388.273 N_yeah no, 388.273 389.435 it had .. gotten on my shirt, 389.435 390.987 and I was [just all] . 392.459 393.800 KEVIN: ...

. 393.800 395.247 LISA: ...

. 395.247 396.898 .. (H) Watch out for that glass. 396.898 397.824 He's .. looking at it. 397.824 398.285 .. (SNIFF) 398.285 399.663 MARIE: ... I'll trade [you]. 399.407 400.277 KEVIN: [Is it] mi=ne? 400.277 402.440 MARIE: (H) See I'm not supposed to give him juice in a bottle. 402.440 404.642 ... He's supposed to drink it out of a cup. 404.642 405.351 LISA: .. Why not. 405.351 406.516 KEVIN: ... Oh [cause all] the air? 405.897 406.168 MARIE: [He] -- 406.516 408.031 ... N=o[2=2], 407.539 408.031 LISA: [2No cause2] -- 408.031 410.547 MARIE: .. they're get baby bottle tooth decay. 410.547 411.325 LISA: ... (Hx)= 411.325 412.125 MARIE: From drinking, 412.125 413.304 ... um, 413.304 414.885 .. j=uice and stuff out of bottles, 414.885 416.274 ... because the= u=m, 416.274 417.732 KEVIN: .. The sugar just stays right there. 417.732 418.192 MARIE: Mhm. 418.192 419.657 LISA: ... Explain it ~Marie. 419.657 420.554 MARIE: ... (TSK) Your brother did, 420.554 421.134 .. so there you go. 421.134 421.981 KEVIN: [@@][2@@@2] 421.134 421.504 MARIE: [@@] 421.504 422.823 LISA: [2That doesn't2] make sense to me. 422.823 423.357 Why sh= -- 423.357 425.672 MARIE: ... (H) Because when they just leave it in their mouth, 425.672 426.379 [the juice just] -- 425.672 427.829 LISA: [(H) Oh= cause] they don't swallow it right away you mean? 427.829 428.720 (H) [2They just 2] -- 428.180 428.447 MARIE: [2Yeah, 428.447 429.422 and in a2] cup they, 429.422 430.590 ... [3you know they3], 429.959 430.590 LISA: [3Mm3]. 430.590 431.340 MARIE: drink it right away. 431.340 433.818 KEVIN: ... S- ... is he good at drinking out of cups? 433.818 434.045 Or, 434.045 434.965 MARIE: .. @@ S- (H) 434.965 435.707 So=metimes, 435.707 436.647 KEVIN: [.. @@@@@] 435.707 436.647 MARIE: [(H) sometimes he's a] -- 435.707 436.647 LISA: [(H) Well he just] -- 436.647 437.448 (H) Sometimes he's like, 437.448 438.420 okay I'm not getting enough. 438.420 439.296 And he p=ulls it , 439.296 439.748 ((IMITATING_SPRAY_NOISE)) 439.748 440.054 doof. 440.054 441.083 MARIE: .. And [he has it all] over. 440.322 440.758 LISA: [It's all over]. 441.083 441.444 MARIE: (H)[2=2] 441.252 441.444 LISA: [2Yeah2], 441.252 443.197 KEVIN: [2Well do2] [3you ever .. tr3]=y those little baby cups, 441.444 442.039 LISA: [3it gets all wet3]. 443.197 443.860 KEVIN: that [4have a lid on it? 443.416 444.106 LISA: [4Yeah= he's got one4]. 443.860 444.106 KEVIN: And4], 444.106 445.986 MARIE: Yeah but he just ... goes like that. 445.986 446.891 [And ]. 445.986 446.891 KEVIN: [@@@@@] 445.986 447.377 LISA: [He thinks it's like a] bottle. 447.377 448.238 .. [2That he can just2], 447.553 448.789 KEVIN: [2@@@@2]@@@ 448.789 449.438 MARIE: M=[3hm=. 449.112 449.754 KEVIN: [3@(H)=3] 449.438 450.628 MARIE: (H)3] So [4we just4] -- 450.089 451.624 KEVIN: [4. 451.624 453.107 MARIE: .. So we just give him the cup. 453.107 455.006 ... He has a little cup too. 455.006 455.714

. 455.714 458.448 KEVIN: ... Did it have two handles or, 458.448 459.292 LISA: ... Y[eah]. 459.135 460.523 MARIE: [I]t just has o=ne. 460.523 463.059 .. I have one that doesn't have any .. handles a[2t all2]. 462.659 462.984 LISA: [2Yeah2]. 463.109 463.722 .. Gimme. 463.722 464.667 MARIE: .. But um, 464.667 466.388 this one we bought him it]'s a Christmas cup. 466.388 467.155 KEVIN: ... Oh. 467.155 468.578 MARIE: .. M% [a s=-] -- 467.933 468.973 LISA: [You bought him a Christmas] cup? 468.973 469.849 MARIE: A s=nowman. 469.849 471.486 ... (H) Did you see his ornament? 471.486 472.856 ... You saw it. 472.856 475.378 .. I don't know what Michael did with the [one from your paren]ts, 474.112 475.053 LISA: [From his Nina]? 475.378 476.539 MARIE: .. I know. 476.539 476.968 LISA: @ 476.968 478.036 @[@@] 477.566 478.564 MARIE: [I was all] witch to her, 478.564 479.200 I was all=, 479.200 480.358 did you spell his name, 480.358 480.968 and she's all, 480.968 481.143 no, 481.143 481.520 I was all, 481.520 482.230 (H) .. no. 482.230 482.677 [She's all X] -- 482.236 483.966 LISA: [She doesn't e]ven catch it (Hx). 483.966 485.156 MARIE: ... So= -- 485.156 485.910 Well [they don't know], 485.370 485.852 LISA: [XX XX]? 485.910 487.085 MARIE: nobody knows how to spell his name, 487.085 487.498 [they always] -- 487.102 487.498 LISA: [I mean the-] -- 487.498 488.751 That's not his [2Nina2]. 488.176 490.698 KEVIN: [2I2] es es a ... si. 490.698 492.142 ... Is there two si's? 492.142 492.707 MARIE: No, 492.707 493.307 [there's just one]. 492.707 493.107 LISA: [No. 493.107 493.807 (H)] .. But, 493.807 494.476 .. usually it's, 494.476 495.869 i es [a a si]. 495.196 495.869 MARIE: [A a si]. 495.869 497.316 There's always two a's in Isaac. 497.316 498.600 KEVIN: .. And you just made it one? 498.600 499.412 MARIE: .. [Mhm]. 499.040 500.387 LISA: [Well there's] two ways of spelling it. 500.387 500.863 MARIE: .. Yeah, 500.863 501.409 well there's [like] -- 501.246 502.084 LISA: [It's not] [2like one w-2] -- 501.397 502.396 KEVIN: [2That's the more Sem2]itic. 502.396 504.131 LISA: It's not like his is wrong or something. 504.131 505.338 MARIE: Well there's a lot more you c- -- 505.338 505.617 >BABY: ((THUMP)) 505.617 505.930 LISA: [(GASP)] 505.617 506.186 KEVIN: [(GASP)] (GASP) 506.186 506.754 LISA: Oo[2=2]. 506.436 508.995 KEVIN: [2Oo2][3=3]. 507.114 508.960 MARIE: [3Don't do that you guy=s3]. 507.114 508.960 >BABY: [3(CRYING)3][4=4][5=5] 508.983 510.727 LISA: [4But that hurt4][5s=5]. 509.053 510.852 KEVIN: [45]. 510.225 510.730 MARIE: [5I know, 510.730 511.514 but5] don't do that, 511.514 512.879 cau[6se you scare him6] more. 511.614 512.231 LISA: [6I'm sorry6]. 512.879 514.021 KEVIN: @@@@@=[7@@7] 513.731 514.056 LISA: [7(H)7] 514.091 514.636 [8Tha=t just -- 514.091 515.542 MARIE: [8He gets scared more8]. 514.633 516.571 LISA: % .. I='m s8]orry 9]. 516.440 517.323 MARIE: [9C9][ause he didn't] -- 516.565 519.702 >BABY: [(GASP)=] ... (CRYING)[2=2] 518.148 518.877 KEVIN: [2He didn't know it hurt, 518.877 519.702 .. until we reacted2]. 519.702 521.368 LISA: He knew @that [3@hur=t @@3]. 520.565 522.062 KEVIN: [3@@@@@@3] (H) 522.062 522.469 MARIE: .. Yeah, 522.469 523.897 but he would've just like [XX]. 523.294 523.723 LISA: [I know]. 523.897 524.884 MARIE: ... And he just -- 524.884 525.302 You guys like, 525.302 526.405 (GASP) oh my [@Go=d. 525.964 526.498 KEVIN: [@@@ 526.231 527.125 MARIE: @@@ @Yeah], 526.473 527.125 KEVIN: ]. 527.125 528.170 LISA: [2Cause like that was2] hard. 527.125 527.860 KEVIN: [2@@@@2] 528.170 529.122 LISA: If he had just gone, 529.122 530.339 XX [X XX XXX, 529.410 530.838 KEVIN: []. 530.559 530.873 LISA: .. Oh]. 530.873 531.314 .. @@ 531.314 533.193 MARIE: .. It's ... X. 533.193 533.543 (H) 533.543 534.437 LISA: [It ech]oes[2=2]. 533.543 533.996 MARIE: [XX] 534.251 535.145 KEVIN: [2It2] echoes here. 535.145 536.648 LISA: .. But it's not as [3bad as it3] [4was4]? 535.807 536.298 MARIE: [3(THROAT)3] 535.807 536.898 KEVIN: [3A very res3][4onant t4]able. 536.898 537.570 MARIE: .. See? 537.570 538.583 KEVIN: ... All better. 538.583 539.737 MARIE: @@@@@@ 539.737 541.308 ... That's [abracadabra]. 540.452 540.928 KEVIN: [Fine, 540.928 542.043 ready to dr]ink some more, 542.043 542.713 no [2problem2]. 542.248 543.038 LISA: [2, 542.817 545.240 MARIE: [3@=@3][4@@@@@@@ (H)4] 543.142 543.455 LISA: @@3] 543.463 544.613 KEVIN: [4, 544.613 545.797 you need jui4]ce now. 545.797 548.124 LISA: ... Poor @thing. 548.124 548.565 @@@ 548.565 550.966 ... (H) [% .. % ..] Okay, 549.534 550.521 MARIE: [Did they scare you]. 550.966 552.486 LISA: it sounded worse than it was. 552.486 553.689 ... (H) I was like, 553.689 554.317 d=a=ng, 554.317 555.258 look for blood. 555.258 555.873 KEVIN: .. @@[@] 555.780 556.703 MARIE: [@]@@@[2@2] 556.506 557.875 LISA: [2? 557.875 559.010 MARIE: .. (H) Well [3I th-3] -- 558.603 559.788 LISA: [3You're used3] to this already. 559.788 560.275 MARIE: Mhm. 560.275 560.960 KEVIN: .. @@ 560.960 562.601 MARIE: (H) He crawls un- underneath, 562.601 563.352 hits his head on it, 563.352 563.747 and I'm like, 563.747 566.327 ... crawls in between it? 566.327 566.716 And I'm like, 566.716 568.214 @ @you're gonna hurt your head. 568.214 568.659 And he's all, 568.659 569.934 (H)= ... ? 571.147 572.084 ... I say, 572.084 573.167 . 573.167 573.693 ? 574.297 575.858 ... . 575.858 578.726 @@@[@@][2@@@2] (H) @ (H) 576.263 576.670 LISA: []. 576.812 577.578 KEVIN: [2@@@@@@2] 578.726 583.856 ... So he's i= es es .. [3a3] [4.. si4]. 582.810 583.693 MARIE: [3A s=3][4=i4]. 583.310 583.693 LISA: [4Si4]. 583.693 585.184 MARIE: ... It's two es's. 585.184 586.940 (H) And you can spell it with zi's too. 586.940 588.647 I've seen it i zi zi a si, 588.647 590.105 or i zi a a si, 590.105 590.925 that's [how they spelled] -- 590.363 591.894 KEVIN: [Or how about] i ti zi=. 591.894 594.070 LISA: ... It[2zaac2]. 593.502 594.695 KEVIN: [2Like Itzhak2] .. Perlman. 594.695 596.601 LISA: ... I think that's like j- -- 596.601 597.307 (H) (Hx) 597.307 598.107 KEVIN: That'[s either -- 597.528 598.399 LISA: [Jewish=]. 598.257 598.933 KEVIN: @]@@@@ 598.933 599.362 LISA: [2Yeah2]. 598.933 599.362 KEVIN: [2(H)2] 599.012 601.389 MARIE: [2(H)2] Cause in his baby book they have a bunch of ways to spell it. 601.389 603.156 ... And I just spelled it with two es's, 603.156 603.781 it looked better. 603.781 605.220 ... I don't [know, 605.035 606.026 LISA: [(H) I don't know I] -- 605.186 606.150 MARIE: two a's in a row]=, 606.150 606.950 just look ugly. 606.950 607.767 LISA: ... [Yeah]. 607.609 608.317 MARIE: [@][2@@@@2] 607.759 608.351 KEVIN: [2Karon2]? 608.630 610.220 LISA: Should've called him Isaac Saavedra. 610.220 610.524 And then, 610.524 610.774 [just, 610.524 612.217 KEVIN: [@=@@]@@@@@ @(H) 610.774 611.149 LISA: you know], 612.217 613.280 ... well I mean, 613.280 613.674 @@ 613.674 614.932 you know cause Saavedra es, 614.932 616.548 .. it's es a [a too]? 615.909 616.548 KEVIN: [A a]. 616.548 617.726 LISA: (H) So you'd have, 617.726 618.373 ... never mind. 618.373 619.711 MARIE: ... (TSK) I get it. 619.711 621.920 KEVIN: ... That looks strange. 621.920 622.583 LISA: Yeah it does. 622.583 623.395 KEVIN: [So you have a new -- 622.583 623.395 LISA: [(H) And I'm always like, 623.395 623.902 % wh=y]. 623.395 625.067 KEVIN: .. There's a] new mayor here right? 625.067 625.613 I mean, 625.613 625.985 LISA: Yeah, 625.985 626.413 [it's um], 625.996 626.713 KEVIN: [Marti]nez? 626.713 627.573 LISA: Martin Ch[2avez2]. 627.137 627.773 MARIE: [2Chavez2]=. 627.759 629.686 LISA: <@ ~Ke[3vin doesn't3] @> [4know=4]. 628.270 629.686 KEVIN: [3@(Hx) @3][4@@4] 628.908 629.646 MARIE: [4Martinez4]? 629.686 630.545 KEVIN: [5(H) @5] 629.721 630.534 MARIE: [5Garcia5]? 630.534 631.207 KEVIN: @@@@ 631.195 632.368 LISA: . 632.368 633.543 MARIE: Lu[cero=? 632.542 634.028 KEVIN: [And there's a Martin XX=]. 633.543 635.087 MARIE: @@@]@@@@ 635.087 637.100 KEVIN: [2(H) So he's not quite as2] crooked as Saavedra, 635.087 636.155 MARIE: [2@= (H)2] 637.100 637.337 KEVIN: [3or3], 637.100 637.862 LISA: [3Well we3] don't know yet. 638.059 639.450 @= [4@@@4] 638.633 639.641 KEVIN: [4You'll find out soon4]. 639.641 640.955 MARIE: (H) He's kinda w- -- 640.955 642.104 LISA: .. You don't like him? 642.104 643.418 MARIE: .. Yeah he I li- he's kinda like, 643.418 644.555 down to earth I think. 644.555 645.103 LISA: Oh you like him, 645.103 646.513 I thought you were gonna say he's [kinda weird]. 645.731 646.404 KEVIN: [Where's he from]. 646.404 646.938 LISA: @@@ 646.938 648.053 MARIE: [(H) He's from here]. 646.938 648.053 LISA: [(H) He's from here]. 648.413 648.622 KEVIN: Oh. 648.622 649.910 I mean like was %he= -- 649.910 650.526 LISA: Oh like, 650.526 651.257 what [part of town]? 650.723 652.000 KEVIN: [What was he aff]iliated with. 652.035 654.009 I mean you know how Saavedra [2was with TV2]I? 653.208 653.753 LISA: [2(H)2] 654.009 655.468 ... Oh I don't know. 655.468 658.576 ... (TSK) (H) I just knew I didn't like the other guy. 658.576 658.975 .. Who was -- 658.975 659.911 .. Dave Cargo. 659.911 660.759 KEVIN: ... [Ye=], 660.341 660.759 LISA: [It was like], 660.759 661.134 KEVIN: oh my, 661.134 661.488 -- 661.488 661.927 You know. 661.927 662.377 LISA: .. Yeah. 662.377 663.840 KEVIN: ... [Yeah] he was .. governor for, 662.528 662.713 LISA: [XX] -- 663.840 664.548 He's annoying. 664.548 664.873 (H) 664.873 665.401 MARIE: (H) 665.401 665.941 KEVIN: For eon[s]. 665.916 667.202 MARIE: [W]ell he's done okay for, 667.202 668.684 .. for now that he's been in office, 668.684 669.784 for the time he's [been in office]. 668.684 669.714 LISA: [(H) Yeah he], 669.714 670.214 .. like, 670.214 670.899 KEVIN: Since when? 670.899 672.026 Well it's just a .. month or so, 672.026 672.559 [right]? 672.026 672.559 LISA: [Yeah], 672.559 672.977 .. [2but, 672.723 673.650 MARIE: [2(H) He's=2] -- 673.268 674.369 LISA: well but e2]ven before that, 674.369 674.859 he [3was like3], 674.569 676.159 MARIE: [3He had like3] an inaugural ball, 676.159 676.403 and he % -- 676.403 677.993 And like %anybody could go and, 677.993 678.690 and it was just -- 678.690 679.305 What was it? 679.305 681.110 (H) His inaugural ball wasn't that, 681.110 682.294 well he had like um, 682.294 682.598 a d- -- 682.598 684.198 ... (TSK) (H) Uh, 684.198 684.748 .. like a, 684.748 685.848 .. blue jean ball, 685.848 686.623 or something like th[at. 686.415 686.948 KEVIN: [@@] 686.623 688.797 MARIE: It was] for his .. pre-inaugural ball, 688.797 689.572 or something like that, 689.572 689.822 no but, 689.822 690.484 (H) you just -- 690.484 691.598 They just wore jeans. 691.598 692.421 KEVIN: [That's] cool. 691.761 692.037 MARIE: [They just] -- 692.421 692.910 .. They wore jeans, 692.910 693.796 and you [had to bring], 693.119 693.796 LISA: [He just (Hx)] -- 693.796 695.221 MARIE: (H) um .. canned, 695.221 697.758 LISA: ... Canned [2food2] for like a food drive kind of thing, 696.114 696.416 MARIE: [2food2]. 697.758 698.298 LISA: [3(H) or whatever3], 697.758 698.298 MARIE: It wa[3sn't3] -- 698.298 699.327 LISA: but he doesn't seem so=, 699.327 699.927 I don't know[=, 699.637 700.543 KEVIN: [It wasn't preachy at all]? 699.927 701.216 LISA: .. (H)] he's like, 701.216 701.796 MARIE: Hm-mm. 701.796 703.166 LISA: ... he's like for gang -- 703.166 703.616 % Like, 703.616 704.130 %again- -- 704.130 706.185 Uh like against gangs and stuff like that but, 706.185 708.201 (H) ... you could see that um, 708.201 710.221 ... (TSK) like Cargo'd just kinda be like, 710.221 711.889 .. (TSK) (H) . 711.889 712.293 You know [like, 712.165 712.815 KEVIN: [@@@@@@] 712.293 714.124 LISA: I could see] him thinking something like that. 714.124 715.949 (H) Where he's just above all those people, 715.949 716.484 and like they, 716.484 717.030 (H) you know, 717.030 717.854 that their problems, 717.854 718.063 you know, 718.063 720.025 it's cause they're just like bad people or something? 720.025 721.254 (H) But I don't see him, 721.254 721.552 .. like, 721.552 723.393 ... him being so X [XX]? 722.929 723.358 MARIE: [He's done] -- 723.358 724.101 He's done like what, 724.101 725.107 two big food drives, 725.107 726.382 even at his inaugural ball, 726.382 727.507 .. they had a food drive. 727.507 727.945 LISA: Yeah. 727.945 728.842 KEVIN: ...

. 728.842 730.294 Have gangs gotten worse. 730.294 730.628 Or- -- 730.628 731.302 MARIE: .. (PSH)= 731.302 732.393 LISA: .. It seems that way. 732.393 732.904 MARIE: Yeah= %, 732.904 733.461 [it seems like] -- 733.136 734.741 KEVIN: [Was it] .. the [2LA gangs or=2], 733.710 734.741 LISA: [2But then (H)2] -- 734.741 735.735 ... I don't know. 735.735 737.426 KEVIN: .. I mean %y- Crips and Bloods and stuff, 737.426 737.826 [do you think]? 737.426 737.754 LISA: [I don't] -- 737.826 738.319 (H) I don't -- 738.319 738.675 MARIE: I don't -- 738.675 739.232 LISA: [think so]. 738.795 740.211 MARIE: [I don't think] they're so much a problem, 740.211 741.120 I think it's just, 741.120 745.157 ... I don't know if it's .. just the way people are in general now. 745.157 745.594 I mean, 745.594 745.861 KEVIN: [@@] 745.594 746.361 LISA: [(H)] [2And I don't2] -- 745.954 747.173 MARIE: [2, 747.162 748.625 just the other day I was watch[3ing the TV3], 747.998 748.555 LISA: [3Excuse me3]. 748.625 749.925 MARIE: (H) and .. um, 749.925 751.225 (TSK) this man went to Wal-Mart. 751.225 751.910 And just shot. 751.910 752.235 Like[=, 752.093 752.765 LISA: [(TSK) (H)] 752.235 752.595 MARIE: you know, 752.595 753.496 it was] [2in a different state2]. 752.765 753.740 KEVIN: [2Where was that X2]? 753.101 754.042 LISA: [2But that's not2] here. 754.038 754.432 [3There was3] -- 754.119 754.932 MARIE: [3Yeah3] [4but still4], 754.187 754.932 KEVIN: [3That was3] [4in Oklahoma4], 754.932 756.592 MARIE: but you [5can't even go to a Wal-Mart5]. 755.176 756.789 LISA: [5there was two days in a row th5]ough, 756.789 758.291 cause there was one in Louisiana, 758.291 759.141 I think yesterday, 759.141 761.039 and one the day be[fore that in Kansa]s. 759.680 760.864 KEVIN: [Are you sure]? 761.039 763.739 LISA: (H) [2Well Daddy .. was2] pretty sure that one was in Kansas. 761.266 762.299 KEVIN: [2Are you certain2] -- 763.739 765.155 MARIE: Well I know there was one that [3like3] -- 764.992 766.223 LISA: [3That m3]eans there was two .. in a -- 766.223 766.978 I was [4like oh4], 766.467 768.441 KEVIN: [4Mom's not gonna wanna4] go to Wal-Mart @anymore. 768.441 769.038 @@@(H) 769.038 769.131 LISA: Yeah, 769.154 769.874 [she's gonna freak. 769.166 769.769 MARIE: [But do you know what I mean, 769.862 770.768 LISA: And never leave the house]. 769.769 771.916 MARIE: you can't even go] to Wal-Mart anymore. 771.916 773.389 You can't even go= .. [2to2] -- 773.053 773.296 LISA: [2Yeah2]. 773.389 774.272 MARIE: .. to the store. 774.272 774.806 KEVIN: .. Yeah=. 774.806 776.013 MARIE: Without having to worry a[bout it]. 775.642 776.977 LISA: [There was] one at what a Pistol's -- 776.977 777.915 .. A Little Caesar's, 777.915 778.840 the day before tha=t. 778.840 779.836 MARIE: No Chucky Cheese. 779.836 780.370 LISA: Chuck[y Cheese]. 780.048 780.557 KEVIN: [Chucky] Cheese, 780.557 781.522 and that was .. in Aurora. 781.522 782.400 That's your mom's home town. 782.400 782.686 Right? 782.686 783.313 MARIE: .. [Mhm]. 783.022 783.464 KEVIN: [Aur]ora? 783.464 784.534 LISA: [2Well she's not from Aurora, 783.464 784.009 MARIE: [2Well, 784.009 784.434 s- it's uh- -- 784.534 785.159 LISA: she's from Denver2]. 784.434 785.988 MARIE: (H) .. But s- it's2] by Denver. 785.988 786.290 LISA: Yeah. 786.290 786.975 MARIE: I mean it's r[ight % -- 786.812 787.184 KEVIN: [I thought -- 786.975 787.823 MARIE: % The outskirts]. 787.308 787.640 KEVIN: Yeah but], 787.640 788.870 what what what's .. what town. 788.870 790.605 %I is she is [she from] [2Denver proper2]? 789.471 790.492 LISA: [(H)] [2.. Does2] -- 789.796 790.492 MARIE: [2Denver2]. 790.605 791.072 LISA: .. [3Yeah3]. 790.886 791.258 MARIE: [3Den3]ver. 791.265 792.190 KEVIN: ... Okay. 792.794 793.421 LISA: [Does your aunt XX -- 792.864 793.386 MARIE: [XXX] 793.049 793.758 KEVIN: [] -- 793.386 794.884 LISA Your auntie] Barbara doesn't live in Aurora. 794.884 796.059 MARIE: .. But she lives close to it. 796.059 796.447 LISA: (H) 796.447 797.835 KEVIN: .. Cause you used to always tell me, 797.835 798.860 they live in this small town. 798.860 799.985 Just outside of Denver=. 799.985 800.229 I mean -- 800.229 800.796 LISA: .. Mm-mm. 800.796 801.723 KEVIN: When we were like, 801.723 802.248 .. in middle s- -- 802.248 803.048 When we were in middle school. 803.048 804.094 LISA: (H) No there was s- -- 804.094 805.220 ... What are th- -- 805.220 806.358 .. So[mething with a G]. 805.514 806.327 KEVIN: [XX] -- 807.128 807.581 LISA: Gwendale. 807.581 808.231 ... No. 808.231 811.701 KEVIN: ...

. 811.701 815.905 ... @ @@@@[@@@@] 815.116 815.882 MARIE: [There's nothing in it]. 815.882 817.046 LISA: ... % No. 817.046 817.382 [There] -- 817.046 817.371 KEVIN: [XX]. 817.382 817.684 LISA: What, 817.684 818.942 ... there's one with a G. 818.942 819.542 Isn't there right? 819.542 821.748 ... Or what ... street does your aunt live on. 821.748 822.301 .. (H) 822.301 823.719 MARIE: ... (TSK) Gaylord. 823.719 824.601 LISA: .. Maybe that's what it was. 824.601 824.915 KEVIN: (Hx) 824.915 826.638 ... Great street. 826.638 827.231 @@@@ 827.231 828.590 MARIE: ~Fifty-~fi=ve ~fifty-~fi=ve @. 828.590 831.829 ... (H) It's just really weird. 831.829 834.081 ... You just can't do anything anymore. 834.081 834.663 Like I told Michael, 834.663 835.376 you can't even -- 835.376 836.177 (H) Michael, 836.177 836.930 they were saying that, 836.930 838.277 I think it was on the news and on the radio, 838.277 838.695 where like, 838.695 840.552 (H) that like there was somebody going around, 840.552 841.249 and I think it was, 841.249 841.644 I think it, 841.644 842.750 I'm pretty sure it was here that, 842.750 844.096 (H) if you flash your lights, 844.096 845.246 like they wouldn't have their lights on, 845.246 846.465 or they would have their brights on, 846.465 847.650 [and if you] flash them they would -- 846.477 846.918 LISA: [(H)] 847.684 849.629 It was supposed to be a gang initiation. 849.629 850.346 (H) [And] -- 849.939 851.100 KEVIN: [And it was na]tionwide. 851.100 852.300 LISA: .. Mm=-mm. 852.300 854.421 KEVIN: .. I think that they were saying [nationwide, 853.892 855.029 MARIE: [(H) And I told Michael], 854.421 855.029 KEVIN: ] -- 855.029 855.329 MARIE: God, 855.329 856.558 you can't even be courteous, 856.558 857.223 and tell somebody else, 857.223 858.059 hey dumbdumb, 858.059 859.841 your your [lights @aren't @on][2=2]. 858.640 860.126 KEVIN: [@@@@@@@] [2(H)2] 859.777 860.435 LISA: [2Well I2] know, 860.435 860.683 [3I3][4=4] -- 860.439 860.558 KEVIN: [3X3] 860.520 861.252 MARIE: [4You4] know? 861.252 862.216 LISA: (H) And I mean, 862.216 862.854 I never think -- 862.854 864.831 I never thought of that really doing it before, 864.831 865.265 I just, 865.265 865.740 .. you know, 865.740 866.263 spaced it, 866.263 866.863 kinda whatever. 866.863 867.989 I always figured they were broken. 867.989 868.303 I don't know. 868.303 869.835 (H) [But after that I was] was all -- 868.512 869.452 KEVIN: [Daddy always does that]. 869.835 872.146 ... Oh you do it when their high lights are off. 872.146 872.425 Right, 872.425 873.260 [instead of] brights. 872.483 872.844 LISA: [Yeah]. 873.269 873.609 KEVIN: [2Yeah2]. 873.272 873.586 LISA: [2(H)2] 873.609 874.120 .. Or -- 874.120 874.851 .. Either when their -- 874.851 876.254 Well if their brights are on. 876.254 877.473 [When they're driving ]. 876.252 876.552 MARIE: [Yeah, 876.552 877.652 like if you're approach]ing them, 877.652 878.360 and their brights are on, 878.360 879.649 you just .. flick your brights on, 879.649 880.276 and then turn them off, 880.276 880.717 [and then they're like, 880.404 882.261 LISA: [Or if their] lights aren't o=n, 880.764 881.141 MARIE: oh]. 882.261 882.611 LISA: or like, 882.611 884.313 [if their just] their running light's on or something. 882.706 883.019 MARIE: [Yeah]. 884.313 885.295 LISA: (H) But then, 885.295 886.351 ... I don't know. 886.351 888.348 MARIE: [But I mean you can't even do that anymore]. 886.491 886.839 LISA: [That just, 886.839 888.311 (H)= (Hx)=] 888.348 889.018 MARIE: Do [2you know what I mean? 888.473 890.000 LISA: [2Or that one where that guy %, 889.018 890.753 MARIE: Without running the risk of getting k2]illed. 889.963 890.310 LISA: it was2] -- 890.753 891.971 That one guy was in a um, 891.971 893.167 .. like a cop car? 893.167 894.050 ... Remember that? 894.050 895.759 (H) [He was] pulling people over? 894.296 894.610 KEVIN: [Hmm]? 895.759 897.640 LISA: ... [2They were2] -- 897.431 898.836 MARIE: [2Oh2] giving them false tickets. 898.836 899.726 KEVIN: ... [3Where was that3]? 899.079 899.877 LISA: [3No=3]=, 899.877 900.542 I never heard that. 900.542 901.262 KEVIN: That was here? 901.262 901.657 LISA: Yeah, 901.657 901.958 there was -- 901.958 902.965 (H) This guy he was, 902.965 903.340 , 903.340 906.115 .. he acted like it was an unmarked car or something, 906.115 907.279 (H) and [he would pull, 906.719 907.032 KEVIN: [Oh, 907.032 907.954 like a slick top]? 907.279 908.808 LISA: and he'd put that] light on top. 908.808 909.516 KEVIN: .. [2Slick top2]? 908.991 911.315 LISA: [2(H)2] ... No no not slick .. top, 911.315 911.838 .. just like, 911.838 912.291 you know like, 912.291 913.336 any old-looking car, 913.336 915.557 ... and then they ... take that wire, 915.557 916.528 and put it on top or whatever, 916.528 917.049 or in their, 917.049 917.991 ... the front part? 917.991 918.956 (H) Anyways, 918.956 919.537 and um, 919.537 921.800 ... (TSK) and would pull people over. 921.800 922.822 And he was wearing like a -- 922.822 923.711 (H) like, 923.711 924.211 .. you know, 924.211 925.124 like an .. shirt? 925.124 926.370 You can .. buy em like. 926.370 927.200 Shirts like, 927.200 928.216 ... you know, 928.216 928.967 .. for the police, 928.967 929.367 anywhere. 929.367 931.411 ... (H) And they were doing that. 931.411 932.200 KEVIN: W- [why was he] -- 931.771 932.699 LISA: [And pulling pe]ople over. 932.699 934.136 (H) They were stealing their cars. 934.136 936.402 ... There was like people in the back- % -- 936.402 937.621 I think that's what they were doing is stealing -- 937.621 937.958 KEVIN: Okay. 937.958 938.376 So he would -- 938.376 939.449 LISA: They were carjacking em. 939.449 940.448 They'd pull them over. 940.448 942.131 ... (H) And then carjack em. 942.131 944.572 ... And then like like, 944.572 945.246 @ (H) 945.246 946.593 and then so they got up on, 946.593 946.999 you know, 946.999 947.324 TV, 947.324 948.729 and were saying all= this about them, 948.729 949.653 (H) you know, 949.653 951.534 well don't [stop for the poli]=ce eve=n. 950.140 950.454 KEVIN: [How m- -- 950.454 950.894 How many] -- 951.534 951.716 LISA: [2And all, 951.534 952.622 KEVIN: [2@@@@@ @ 951.716 952.378 LISA: @I @was @like, 952.378 953.225 oh shoot2]. 952.622 953.225 KEVIN: How many2] -- 953.225 953.818 LISA: [3(H)3] 953.225 955.106 KEVIN: [3How many3] .. people did they [4get like that. 954.584 955.209 LISA: [4I don't know. 955.209 956.000 KEVIN: Just a few or4], 955.539 956.174 LISA: Just a few4]=. 956.174 956.680 .. Yeah. 956.680 958.639 KEVIN: Were they like doing really [fancy cars or], 957.617 959.382 LISA: [Cause as soon as it happ][2ened XX2]. 958.662 960.857 MARIE: [2Doesn't that sound like2] something that would happen on like on Chips, 960.857 961.321 or [3something3]. 961.025 962.889 LISA: [3(H)3] [4<@ Yeah it does- @@ (H) @>4]. 961.321 962.889 KEVIN: [4@@@@@@@@@4] 962.889 963.353 LISA: Yeah. 963.353 964.746 KEVIN: 963.472 964.112 LISA: [It does-] -- 964.746 965.911 MARIE: @@@ (H) 965.911 969.181 LISA: @[@@@@@@@@@@@ @(H)] 966.209 969.181 MARIE: [@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@] 966.128 967.637 KEVIN: [Show was terrifying. 967.637 969.181 That show was terrifying]. 969.181 969.669 LISA: @(H)= 969.669 970.667 Oh my Go[2=d. 970.516 971.143 KEVIN: [2@@@@2] 970.667 971.967 LISA: You're a d2]ork @. 971.967 972.629 MARIE: But do you know what I mean, 972.629 973.286 LISA: [(H) Yeah, 972.629 974.171 MARIE: [you can't even do anythi]=ng. 973.286 973.896 LISA: I know what you mean]. 974.171 975.426 MARIE: You can't do anything any[2more2]. 975.193 976.482 LISA: [23] 976.192 977.817 MARIE: [3All3] you can do is just [4stay ho=me4]. 977.306 978.233 LISA: [4 978.233 978.990 KEVIN: Issac. 978.990 982.664 MARIE: ... Just stay home. 982.664 983.349 That's it. 983.349 985.481 LISA: You sound like Stephanie now. 985.481 986.681 MARIE: ... (H) [Oh no=]. 986.116 987.239 KEVIN: [Stephanie talks] [2that way2]? 985.945 987.042 LISA: [(H) Steph][2anie, 987.077 988.365 S2]tephanie says it's like, 988.365 988.714 what do %uh -- 988.714 989.984 I can never think of that word. 989.984 991.369 .. (H) The end of the world. 991.369 992.438 KEVIN: ... Apocalypse? 992.438 993.369 LISA: ... No the other one. 993.369 994.096 KEVIN: .. Revelation? 994.096 995.122 LISA: ... No. 995.122 996.287 MARIE: ... <@ (Hx) The other one @>. 996.287 996.995 @@[@@] 996.995 998.075 KEVIN: [@]@@@@[2=2] 997.924 998.597 MARIE: [2Keep2] going. 998.597 998.980 LISA: [3Like3], 998.562 998.841 KEVIN: [3@@3] 998.980 999.495 LISA: .. y- um, 999.495 1001.082 .. born-again Christians [always talk about]. 1000.513 1001.237 KEVIN: [Doomsday]? 1001.237 1004.494 (Hx) [2(H) @@@@@ @@@@@2] 1002.381 1003.170 LISA: [2For=get it. 1003.495 1004.598 @@ .. @2] 1004.598 1005.224 @(H) 1005.224 1005.616 KEVIN: @ 1005.616 1006.884 LISA: .. Do you know what I'm talking a[bout], 1006.652 1007.035 MARIE: [No]=, 1007.035 1008.265 I have no idea what you're talk[2ing about2]. 1007.824 1008.498 KEVIN: [2@@2]@ 1008.498 1012.961 LISA: ... (H) ... [3The one where3] % .. all the good -- 1011.375 1011.956 MARIE: [3Mm=], 1012.961 1014.220 LISA: ... The [4ones that are m4]arked, 1013.430 1013.948 KEVIN: [4Rapture4]? 1014.223 1014.777 LISA: Rapture. 1014.777 1017.502 KEVIN: ... She still goes to .. [Calvary Chapel]? 1016.778 1017.153 LISA: [No, 1017.153 1017.524 she doesn't] -- 1017.524 1017.774 No, 1017.774 1019.158 she never went to Calvary [Chapel]. 1018.717 1019.450 MARIE: [Oh my] God, 1019.450 1020.516 Calvary Chapel. 1020.516 1022.277 KEVIN: ... What was the one that she used to go to %? 1022.277 1023.043 [I thought you said XXXX]. 1022.277 1023.740 LISA: [(H) No she] went to one, 1023.740 1025.046 .. that was right by Manzano. 1025.046 1027.026 ... (H) .. But, 1027.026 1027.990 it was the same deal. 1027.990 1029.917 It was just a much s- much smaller church. 1029.917 1032.065 MARIE: (TSK) (H) Calvary Ch[apel ]. 1030.818 1031.677 LISA: [It was born ag- -- 1031.677 1033.837 She was just like] supposedly a born-again Christian [2XX2]. 1033.326 1033.825 MARIE: [2She was2], 1033.837 1034.540 or she is. 1034.540 1036.275 LISA: ... She hasn't gone forever. 1036.275 1039.484 MARIE: ... Well what is her .. her .. [husband]? 1038.808 1039.517 LISA: [Officially]? 1039.517 1041.218 ... (H) Her husband's Catholic. 1041.218 1042.373 MARIE: .. And what is she officially. 1042.373 1044.544 LISA: .. (H) She I don't think she's official anything. 1044.544 1046.509 MARIE: ... She's officially whatever she feels [like]. 1046.277 1047.183 LISA: [She's not] baptized. 1047.183 1048.506 ... As anything. 1048.506 1049.969 ... (H) She did this, 1049.969 1050.422 you know like, 1050.422 1050.666 well, 1050.666 1052.059 born-again Christians have this thing where, 1052.059 1054.357 ... @where @they [@um], 1054.032 1055.117 KEVIN: [@@]@ @What. 1055.117 1056.459 LISA: .. @[2@2] 1056.168 1056.470 MARIE: [2@@2] 1056.459 1057.103 LISA: @Where they, 1057.103 1057.997 (H) you know like, 1057.997 1058.558 kinda, 1058.558 1058.928 they'll, 1058.928 1059.888 ... you know, 1059.888 1060.530 try to like, 1060.530 1061.979 (H) inspire you and then, 1061.979 1063.338 (H) you're just supposed to like, 1063.338 1064.661 proclai=m yourself like, 1064.661 1065.806 ... that day? 1065.806 1066.608 (H) [Like]. 1066.329 1067.616 KEVIN: [And that]'s what baptism is? 1067.616 1069.241 LISA: .. (H) Well it's not supposed to be baptism th- -- 1069.241 1069.740 ... Well, 1069.740 1070.263 you know [they just], 1070.007 1071.082 MARIE: [They don't] believe in baptism, 1071.082 1071.354 do they? 1071.354 1072.376 LISA: .. Well no= (Hx) -- 1072.376 1073.688 .. [Not so of- (H)] -- 1072.688 1074.184 KEVIN: [Well Baptists do] @@@. 1074.184 1075.557 LISA: Not so officially. 1075.557 1076.901 MARIE: (H) Cause wasn't it, 1076.901 1077.555 .. well who % -- 1077.555 1077.892 [They don't -- 1077.555 1079.262 KEVIN: [And you don't get a certificate or anything]. 1077.892 1078.809 MARIE: They don't (H) -- 1078.983 1079.691 They don't] [2like XX2] -- 1079.299 1080.341 LISA: [2You don't2] get a certificate, 1080.341 1080.875 it's just like, 1080.875 1082.721 you're gonna change your life kinda [thing. 1082.404 1083.163 MARIE: [They .. they] -- 1082.710 1083.697 LISA: And accept] God and -- 1083.697 1084.939 MARIE: .. They like are like totally -- 1084.939 1087.525 Weren't you saying that Barbara was saying something about Ash Wednesday? 1087.525 1088.898 LISA: ... @Ye=s. 1088.898 1089.342 (H) [Wha-] -- 1088.936 1089.888 KEVIN: [What did] [2she say2]? 1088.994 1090.528 MARIE: [It made] [2me so2][3= mad3]. 1089.435 1089.911 LISA: [2She's a2] -- 1089.911 1091.061 [3She's a Pe3]ntecostal. 1091.061 1091.734 (H) Well, 1091.734 1092.727 she said um, 1092.727 1096.446 ... she asked if I had .. went and got ashes on my forehead yet. 1096.446 1097.572 (H) A=nd um, 1097.572 1098.873 ... I don't remember what she said. 1098.873 1099.953 (H) Something she just said, 1099.953 1101.439 . 1102.627 1103.215 Or something. 1103.215 1103.563 MARIE: @ (Hx) 1103.563 1104.759 [And I was just like] -- 1103.621 1106.036 KEVIN: [@@@@@]@@@@[2@@2]@ 1105.398 1106.036 LISA: [2@2] 1106.036 1107.546 [3(H) I was3] [4just like4] -- 1106.413 1106.704 KEVIN: [3@3] 1106.211 1107.000 MARIE: [3(SQUEAL)3] 1107.006 1107.958 KEVIN: [4You tol4]d me that, 1107.958 1109.177 but it's still stupid. 1109.177 1109.618 I m[ean] -- 1109.374 1110.129 LISA: [It's] just like, 1110.129 1110.419 well, 1110.419 1110.674 you know, 1110.674 1114.037 you just proved that you absolutely know nothing about the Catholic religion. 1114.037 1115.188 KEVIN: [@@@]@[2@2] 1114.039 1114.724 MARIE: [XXXX]. 1114.944 1115.351 LISA: [2You know what I mean2], 1115.351 1115.757 @ 1115.757 1117.336 @That [@was @never the] point, 1115.863 1116.490 MARIE: [(Hx)] 1116.087 1116.629 KEVIN: [@@] 1117.286 1117.790 MARIE: [2(H)2] 1117.286 1117.790 KEVIN: [2(H)2] 1117.286 1117.779 LISA: [2you know2]? 1117.790 1118.069 KEVIN: @ 1118.069 1118.754 MARIE: (H) 1118.754 1119.822 LISA: .. So whatever. 1119.822 1121.238 ... I was just like, 1121.238 1122.457 KEVIN: Oh= [boy=]. 1121.760 1122.097 MARIE: [Oh, 1122.097 1123.339 it was s=]o funny one day. 1123.339 1123.608 Um, 1123.608 1125.036 (H) .. (Hx) 1125.036 1127.944 uh Kent was ... at the .. store (Hx). 1127.944 1129.300 And me and Cassie were talking, 1129.300 1129.892 and I was just like, 1129.892 1133.527 ... that's before he fired Barry. 1133.527 1134.202 .. I guess. 1134.202 1134.873 LISA: ... Hm? 1134.873 1136.578 MARIE: He y- that's the day he asked us about Barry. 1136.578 1137.015 (H) 1137.015 1137.890 LISA: ... Asked you about Barry. 1137.890 1138.401 MARIE: [Yeah]. 1137.890 1138.401 LISA: [XX]. 1138.401 1140.003 MARIE: Cause that was the day he said he was gonna fire -- 1140.003 1142.093 Well he had told us that he probably was gonna let him go, 1142.093 1143.161 LISA: (H) Well what happened -- 1143.161 1143.846 Okay I never -- 1143.846 1144.229 I'm -- 1144.229 1145.634 I'm gonna get you off subject right here. 1145.634 1148.159 (H) .. Barry was mister wonderful good, 1148.159 1148.988 ... [did everything] -- 1148.359 1149.543 MARIE: [He never] was. 1149.543 1150.182 He never [2was2]. 1150.042 1152.248 LISA: [2I th2]ought Kent .. even [3said that he was great3]. 1151.192 1151.528 MARIE: [3Well, 1151.528 1152.991 Kent liked3] him at first. 1152.991 1155.801 And then he (H) started messing up the machine and stuff, 1155.801 1156.602 so Kent [was like], 1156.207 1156.602 LISA: [Unhunh]. 1156.625 1157.027 MARIE: you know, 1157.027 1158.931 LISA: (H) [So he didn't like] him ever for very long. 1157.202 1157.931 MARIE: [and then he XX] -- 1158.931 1159.384 Unh-unh. 1159.384 1159.800 [And then, 1159.384 1159.800 LISA: [Oh, 1159.800 1160.100 okay]. 1159.800 1162.124 MARIE: (H)] Pat started not liking him either. 1162.124 1162.635 ... And I mean, 1162.635 1163.876 my mom never liked him so, 1163.876 1165.630 LISA: ... Okay anyways s[o], 1165.408 1166.313 MARIE: [(H)] But he -- 1166.313 1167.079 % We were sitting there, 1167.079 1167.776 and you know how like, 1167.776 1168.914 .. Kent's like a big old -- 1168.914 1171.783 Well he wa=s a big old drug addict and all that stuff? 1171.783 1172.791 (H) [And] -- 1172.083 1172.884 KEVIN: [@@@]@ 1172.884 1174.806 (H) [2You told me a little bit about2]. 1173.099 1173.563 LISA: [2Yeah, 1173.563 1175.247 he was a big old drug2] [3addict3]. 1174.794 1175.768 MARIE: [3Yeah3] he [4was. 1175.653 1176.419 KEVIN: [4Like coke4] or. 1175.783 1176.132 MARIE: And he4] -- 1176.503 1177.037 Yeah[5=5]. 1176.698 1176.917 LISA: [5Yeah5], 1176.917 1178.225 he was a born-again virgin. 1178.225 1180.845 I thought that was the most hilarious [thing I heard in my entire] life. 1179.348 1180.520 KEVIN: [@@@@@@] 1180.845 1181.474 MARIE: Bu[2=t he2] -- 1181.100 1181.534 LISA: [2Anyways2], 1181.534 1182.058 [3I'm sorry3]. 1181.578 1182.077 KEVIN: [3@@@3] 1181.729 1182.509 MARIE: [3But3] he was, 1182.509 1183.009 you know, 1183.009 1183.588 he like, 1183.588 1184.192 is so like, 1184.192 1185.550 judgmental on other people now, 1185.550 1187.373 he's gotten to be like that ever since I think, 1187.373 1188.774 basically since he's been married. 1188.774 1190.553 He's like .. so= judgmental on people, 1190.553 1191.103 it bugs me. 1191.103 1191.730 (H) 1191.730 1192.845 LISA: (H) .. . 1192.845 1193.971 MARIE: B- % just like, 1193.971 1195.495 ... people in general. 1195.495 1196.374 I mean he just, 1196.374 1197.794 ... I don't know it's -- 1197.794 1198.761 .. It's weird. 1198.761 1199.051 [Like, 1198.761 1199.446 LISA: [(H) See I] -- 1199.051 1200.502 MARIE: you know h]ow he used to always say, 1200.502 1201.838 well I would never push, 1201.838 1203.138 (H) my faith on anybody, 1203.138 1204.678 I would never .. p- preach to anybody. 1204.678 1205.497 (H) But, 1205.497 1207.697 ... he doesn't let us put anything up. 1207.697 1208.600 Like as far as, 1208.600 1209.694 you know like um=, 1209.694 1211.667 KEVIN: ... Can't put anything Catholic up? 1211.667 1213.030 [Or nothing secul]ar. 1211.789 1212.161 MARIE: [Yeah, 1212.161 1212.805 do you know what I mean], 1213.030 1213.949 just .. nothing, 1213.949 1214.862 we're not allowed to put anything up. 1214.862 1215.087 But, 1215.087 1216.701 (H) here comes this person, 1216.701 1217.070 and -- 1217.070 1218.436 (H) And it's .. about, 1218.436 1219.353 .. like you know, 1219.353 1221.200 ... about his religion or whatever, 1221.200 1223.368 and he <> it right on the front door, 1223.368 1223.687 you know, 1223.687 1225.847 and he's not pushing on his customers and stuff? 1225.847 1227.983 (H) And we lost a lot of customers because of that. 1227.983 1229.157 Because they didn't feel like, 1229.157 1229.643 you know, 1229.643 1231.181 .. [that was] a [2place for2] -- 1230.026 1230.316 KEVIN: -- 1230.513 1231.205 [2What was it2]. 1231.205 1232.313 MARIE: (H) (TSK) I forget, 1232.313 1234.199 it was an announcement of somebody coming, 1234.199 1235.474 a speaker or somebody. 1235.474 1236.577 LISA: [(H) Oh]=, 1235.459 1236.133 KEVIN: [Oh]. 1236.577 1237.503 LISA: I think I remember that. 1237.503 1237.909 MARIE: And he % -- 1237.909 1238.481 And % -- 1238.481 1239.027 And he -- 1239.027 1240.003 .. And they were just like, 1240.003 1240.747 not really -- 1240.747 1242.414 LISA: ... (H) Well he used to, 1242.414 1242.902 ... like, 1242.902 1243.761 (H) you know, 1243.761 1245.781 MARIE: [Leave] little prayer cards at number ten, 1243.807 1244.005 LISA: [Bar-] -- 1245.781 1246.124 Yeah, 1246.124 1246.777 Barbara, 1246.777 1247.502 % had this sh- -- 1247.502 1248.090 .. They have, 1248.090 1248.647 they call em -- 1248.647 1250.307 (H) They call em tracts? 1250.307 1252.314 (H) ... And what they are is they're like -- 1252.314 1253.936 Like they'll have Footprints on it, 1253.936 1255.356 .. (H) or um, 1255.356 1256.412 I can't remember. 1256.412 1258.021 ... Just little thing -- 1258.021 1258.730 Little prayers, 1258.730 1259.498 and stuff like that, 1259.498 1260.252 (H) and -- 1260.252 1261.261 But she had a little basket, 1261.261 1262.468 and it said take one or whatever. 1262.468 1263.569 (H) A=nd um, 1263.569 1264.557 .. right by the thing. 1264.557 1266.578 And she'd wear her little pray pi=n and, 1266.578 1267.615 (H) and then she put, 1267.615 1268.074 you know, 1268.074 1270.038 happy birthday Christmas on the window, 1270.038 1271.187 [I mean hap]py birthday Christmas, 1270.049 1270.479 MARIE: [XXXX] 1271.187 1272.847 LISA: (H) happy [2birthday2] [3Jesus3]. 1271.849 1272.255 KEVIN: [2@@2] 1272.267 1272.778 MARIE: [3Jesus3], 1272.778 1273.354 LISA: [4XX XX XX4]. 1272.778 1273.354 MARIE: [4she still did4]. 1273.354 1273.697 LISA: I know, 1273.697 1274.728 it's on this year too I saw. 1274.728 1277.043 ... (TSK) (H) But and I got % -- 1277.043 1278.160 You know some customers who, 1278.160 1280.246 it's not that they weren't Christian at all. 1280.246 1280.675 .. You know, 1280.675 1281.639 (H) it was just, 1281.639 1282.568 it annoyed them. 1282.568 1284.230 KEVIN: ... Well you told me they were gonna s-, 1284.230 1284.878 .. they were gonna, 1284.878 1285.923 .. turn it into, 1285.923 1288.838 they were gonna have a religious .. card section or [XX]? 1288.223 1289.198 LISA: [They were going] to. 1288.455 1288.896 MARIE: [Yeah]. 1289.198 1289.637 They were. 1289.637 1291.079 KEVIN: .. That would've been wild. 1291.079 1291.601 That would've been -- 1291.601 1292.089 You know you're -- 1292.089 1294.515 LISA: . 1294.155 1295.938 KEVIN: [@@][2@@2]@ @That was [3(H)3] -- 1294.522 1294.870 MARIE: [2(Hx)2] 1295.462 1295.938 [3(H)3] 1295.938 1296.222 [4Yeah4], 1295.966 1296.617 LISA: [4@@4][5@@5] 1296.210 1296.593 MARIE: [5he5] -- 1296.593 1298.277 KEVIN: [6That would've been so strange6]. 1296.742 1299.310 LISA: [6(H) I thought %6] everyone would be like, 1299.310 1300.181 KEVIN: ... Well the- -- 1300.181 1301.493 And then you could add a drive-through, 1301.493 1302.073 you know let's say I need, 1302.073 1302.306 you know, 1302.306 1303.362 give me my clothes and, 1303.362 1303.676 you know, 1303.676 1305.007 MARIE: .. Pick up a card on the [way]. 1304.822 1306.110 KEVIN: [Two] [2bap2][3tism cards XX3] -- 1305.007 1305.251 MARIE: [2You know2]. 1305.263 1306.842 LISA: [3And a birthday c3][4ard for4] -- 1306.301 1306.884 KEVIN: [4@@@4] 1306.884 1308.858 LISA: No they wouldn't have a baptism card [5~Kevin5]. 1308.505 1309.541 KEVIN: [5No5] I know. 1309.541 1310.981 I've been trying to think what would they have. 1310.981 1312.607 LISA: ... That's like pagan or -- 1312.607 1313.707 KEVIN: . 1313.707 1315.486 @ [(H) @@ .. @] 1314.392 1315.565 LISA: [@@ @@@] 1315.565 1316.111 [2(H)2] 1315.704 1316.865 KEVIN: [2. 1316.890 1319.013 MARIE: ... (H) But they have a [bunch of um], 1318.572 1319.013 LISA: [Hit the %] -- 1319.013 1319.640 Hit it with him. 1319.640 1321.012 MARIE: ... (H) But um, 1321.012 1321.697 LISA: Oh ~Kevin, 1321.697 1322.361 no no no. 1322.361 1323.313 MARIE: ... You have to go like this. 1323.313 1327.535 >ENV: ((BANGING))[=][2=2]= 1323.576 1323.878 MARIE: [Yeah]. 1323.878 1325.851 KEVIN: [2@@@2] 1325.851 1329.995 LISA: ... <@ He just thinks [3we're wei=rd @>3]. 1328.567 1329.600 MARIE: [3(Hx) @@@3] 1329.995 1330.403 LISA: @@ 1330.403 1331.030 MARIE: (H) 1331.030 1331.835 LISA: (H) ~Kevin, 1331.835 1332.953 it's not an instrument. 1332.953 1334.189 ... Don't -- 1334.189 1335.996 MARIE: ... No uh, 1335.996 1336.611 he's uh .. [li%-] -- 1336.519 1337.273 LISA: [Wha]t's wr[2ong2]. 1336.890 1337.617 KEVIN: [2He sick2] of that? 1337.617 1340.742 LISA: (H) [3Who's this weird person in my house3]. 1338.379 1339.244 MARIE: [3But anyways, 1339.703 1341.648 I was talking about his3] drug problem. 1341.648 1341.922 Right? 1341.922 1342.595 LISA: [Oh I'm sorry]. 1342.270 1343.158 KEVIN: [@@@][2@@2] 1342.398 1343.841 MARIE: [] [2he's so2] [3judgmental3] -- 1343.367 1343.919 LISA: [3A long3] ti- -- 1343.919 1345.266 MARIE: ... (H) [4%=4] -- 1344.755 1345.266 LISA: [4Uh ~Marie4]? 1345.241 1345.845 MARIE: Uh excuse me, 1345.845 1346.020 [don't] -- 1345.845 1346.020 LISA: [XX] 1346.020 1346.939 MARIE: That's my [2@couch2]. 1346.292 1348.411 KEVIN: [2@@@@2][3@@@@@@ @3] 1346.939 1348.442 MARIE: [3@@@ (H)3] 1346.962 1348.668 LISA: [3@@@@@@@3] @ 1348.668 1349.227 MARIE: ... [4Um4], 1348.896 1349.198 LISA: [4(H)4] 1349.198 1350.272 KEVIN: [5dad doesn't live5] here. 1349.454 1350.086 LISA: [5It's your chair5]. 1350.272 1351.207 MARIE: .. But .. u[6=m6], 1350.878 1351.375 LISA: [6Shut6] up. 1351.375 1352.184 KEVIN: @@[7@7] @ 1351.864 1352.108 MARIE: [7@7] 1352.184 1353.483 >ENV: ((BANGING))[8=8][9=9] 1352.184 1352.602 MARIE: [8.. @8] 1352.602 1354.452 LISA: ... [9See9] [I told you]. 1353.433 1354.552 KEVIN: []. 1354.552 1355.604 MARIE: ... But he um, 1355.604 1356.954 he was like really judgmental and -- 1356.954 1357.997 (H) And we were sitting [there, 1357.742 1358.534 LISA: [Na-na-na-na-na. 1358.534 1359.292 .. (SNIFF)] 1357.997 1359.292 MARIE: and he had said something about], 1359.292 1363.293 ... something that [2had to2] do with the bar next door to number ten, 1361.342 1361.644 LISA: [22]. 1363.293 1363.665 MARIE: you know, 1363.665 1364.487 people who drink. 1364.487 1366.584 .. (H) At one time or another. 1366.584 1367.553 And I couldn't remember, 1367.553 1369.226 and so that day me and Cassie were talking, 1369.226 1369.451 and I, 1369.451 1370.308 and .. she like, 1370.308 1370.703 was like, 1370.703 1372.519 (H) .. she was like a little run-around. 1372.519 1372.659 You know, 1372.659 1373.328 she used to like, 1373.328 1375.040 LISA: ... [Was or is]. 1374.117 1375.812 MARIE: [Sh=- .. sh=-] .. she was. 1375.812 1376.228 Like big time. 1376.228 1377.366 she used to like .. go=, 1377.366 1378.568 (H) and just -- 1378.568 1380.904 ... Like go to Utah, 1380.904 1382.442 with a bunch of guys and [gir]ls, 1382.297 1382.373 KEVIN: [(H)] 1382.442 1382.721 MARIE: you know, 1382.721 1383.580 skip school and, 1383.580 1384.149 I mean just, 1384.149 1384.574 you know[=], 1384.530 1385.012 KEVIN: [How] old was she? 1385.012 1385.627 MARIE: (H) like, 1385.627 1386.936 be a hippie kind of th[ing], 1386.672 1388.299 LISA: [Right now] she's like nineteen or eighteen. 1386.811 1387.033 KEVIN: [(COUGH)] 1388.299 1389.274 MARIE: She's seventeen. 1389.274 1389.901 LISA: Still? 1389.901 1390.818 MARIE: ... She's seven- -- 1390.818 1392.421 She just turned seventeen [in September]. 1391.975 1393.147 KEVIN: [I assume she]'s dropped out of school. 1393.147 1394.271 @@[2@@@ (H)2] 1393.505 1393.743 MARIE: [2Yeah, 1393.743 1394.387 she has2]. 1394.387 1395.409 LISA: I didn't know she was that young. 1395.409 1395.618 X -- 1395.618 1396.656 MARIE: ... And, 1396.656 1397.254 .. u=m, 1397.254 1398.038 .. she like, 1398.038 1398.820 w- w- [was in a] -- 1398.407 1400.425 LISA: [So she must] have been going to Utah when she was like fifteen, 1400.425 1400.754 [2or something2]. 1400.493 1400.975 MARIE: [2Yeah2]=. 1400.975 1401.615 KEVIN: [3@@3] 1401.000 1402.307 MARIE: [3Cause she was3] doing [4all kinds of like4] -- 1401.762 1403.051 KEVIN: [4That's4] [5scary5]. 1402.093 1403.364 LISA: [4Oh4] [5my God5] (Hx). 1403.364 1404.993 KEVIN: I [6assume her6] parents really appreciated that. 1403.553 1403.831 MARIE: [6And6] -- 1404.831 1405.691 %= Well, 1405.691 1406.144 they were like, 1406.144 1406.515 her paren- -- 1406.515 1407.948 Her mom's like an alcoholic, 1407.948 1408.373 and stuff like that, 1408.373 1409.783 and her dad's like a now, 1409.783 1410.183 and I'm like, 1410.183 1410.619 God, 1410.619 1410.857 [you know, 1410.625 1411.507 KEVIN: [Oh=]. 1410.857 1412.204 MARIE: but they're not] married anymore, 1412.204 1413.006 but still. 1413.006 1414.621 (H) Well we were sitting there talking, 1414.621 1417.623 and she's been in a center for like .. rehabilitation and stuff, 1417.623 1418.650 .. for drugs and stuff, 1418.650 1419.768 (H) and we were talking, 1419.768 1420.318 and .. %I, 1420.318 1421.087 .. %= and I told her, 1421.087 1421.976 do you get offended, 1421.976 1422.353 I go, 1422.353 1423.127 do you think that it, 1423.127 1423.539 you know I told her, 1423.539 1424.641 do you think it's fair, 1424.641 1426.214 (H) that when people say %, 1426.214 1427.209 .. %y- you know that, 1427.209 1428.384 ... even, 1428.384 1429.045 .. y- y- like, 1429.045 1430.244 you were an alcoholic. 1430.244 1431.330 They never say you were. 1431.330 1432.481 You're always an alcoholic. 1432.481 1434.056 You're just a recovered .. alcoholic. 1434.056 1434.588 Do you know what I mean, 1434.588 1435.654 a recovered alcoholic. 1435.654 1436.089 LISA: M[hm]. 1435.776 1437.012 MARIE: [(H)]= But when, 1437.012 1438.291 .. when you're a drug addict, 1438.291 1439.289 and you don't do it anymore they say, 1439.289 1439.579 oh, 1439.579 1440.531 you've come clean. 1440.531 1441.133 Do you know what I mean, 1441.133 1441.533 I go, 1441.533 1443.292 (H) that really bugs me and and, 1443.292 1444.545 and Kent was in the back, 1444.545 1445.062 I was all, 1445.062 1447.146 (H) I think a person who was a drug addict, 1447.146 1448.577 .. once was a drug addict. 1448.577 1449.754 Always is a drug addict. 1449.754 1450.038 I said, 1450.038 1452.021 they're just a recovered drug addict. 1452.021 1453.890 <@ And I was saying it like @> really loud. 1453.890 1455.225 LISA: [Like on purpose though]? 1453.890 1455.225 MARIE: [(H)= .. Ye=s], 1455.114 1456.183 so that he would hear me. 1456.183 1456.763 LISA: .. Oh. 1456.763 1457.287 MARIE: And I was all, 1457.287 1458.229 because that's not, 1458.229 1459.170 that's not fair I mean, 1459.170 1460.183 alcohol is just, 1460.183 1461.271 .. is a drug too, 1461.271 1462.304 and I was just going off, 1462.304 1463.323 <@ and stuff like [that], 1463.085 1463.347 KEVIN: [@] 1463.347 1464.223 MARIE: and she was @>, 1464.223 1466.274 .. (H) like agreeing with me and, 1466.274 1467.150 (H) and, 1467.150 1467.600 and then, 1467.600 1468.232 I was all, 1468.232 1469.979 .. [just being real like] [2ju-2] -- 1469.010 1469.752 KEVIN: [VOX>]. 1469.644 1470.988 LISA: [2Is he2] kicking the present[3s3]? 1470.846 1471.856 MARIE: [3No3] [4Issac4]. 1471.255 1472.406 KEVIN: [4He's step4]ping on em. 1472.406 1473.924 MARIE: ... No. 1473.924 1475.366 ... You don't do that. 1475.366 1476.404 KEVIN: . 1476.404 1477.731 ... [XX] X 1477.104 1477.556 MARIE: [(H)] 1477.731 1478.614 LISA: ... It's already, 1478.614 1480.117 it's like coming un- ... wrapped. 1480.117 1480.544 Isn't it? 1480.544 1481.723 MARIE: .. Why don't you [sit there]. 1481.194 1486.720 >BABY: [(CRYING)][2=2][3=3][4=4]= 1481.723 1485.970 KEVIN: [2((IMITATING_BABY_CRYING))2][3=3][4=4] 1483.487 1484.584 LISA: [3We disagree3]. 1486.720 1488.972 ... Oh brother[5=5]. 1488.879 1489.663 MARIE: [5@5][6@@@@6] 1489.198 1490.988 KEVIN: [6@@@@6][7@ @@ @7][8(H)8] 1489.669 1490.988 LISA: [7@@@@ (H)7][8=8] 1490.713 1490.988 MARIE: [8But %y-8], 1490.988 1492.464 LISA: [9((IMITATING_BABY_CRYING))9]= 1490.988 1491.964 MARIE: [9%I was just saying like9] -- 1491.097 1491.964 KEVIN: [9.. @@@9] 1492.464 1493.535 MARIE: Really judgmen[tal]. 1493.318 1493.535 KEVIN: [@@] 1493.535 1494.172 MARIE: Do you know what I mean? 1494.172 1494.599 KEVIN: [(H)] 1494.172 1495.024 MARIE: [(H)] Just [2like2], 1494.775 1495.872 LISA: [23] 1495.628 1495.953 MARIE: [3not3] m- -- 1495.953 1496.178 Like, 1496.178 1498.122 I didn't mean like half the things I said, 1498.122 1498.417 just, 1498.417 1499.894 just to like .. show him. 1499.894 1500.269 Do you know what I mean? 1500.269 1500.689 Like I go, 1500.689 1501.496 (H) God I go, 1501.496 1504.708 I honestly don't see how somebody could just snort something up their nose, 1504.708 1506.866 I mean what kind of satisf=action do you get out of [that]. 1506.425 1508.503 KEVIN: [@@]@@[2@@@2] 1506.308 1506.843 LISA: [(Hx)] 1507.528 1509.048 [2@@@@@2]@@@ 1507.516 1508.108 MARIE: [2You know2]? 1509.048 1510.317 And I [3was just all3], 1509.473 1510.267 KEVIN: [3(H)=3] 1510.317 1511.175 MARIE: and I was just like, 1511.175 1511.904 going on and, 1511.904 1512.907 and saying stuff like that. 1512.907 1513.409 And and, 1513.409 1514.071 (H) 1514.071 1515.488 an% and not [that I don't] -- 1514.882 1515.946 LISA: [What did sh]e do, 1515.948 1516.753 I mean that she [2was a2] -- 1516.393 1516.987 MARIE: [2She was2] just like, 1516.987 1517.437 I know. 1517.437 1518.239 Isn't that disgust -- 1518.239 1518.529 [You know]? 1518.286 1519.214 LISA: [Was she] alcoholic? 1519.214 1519.578 Or, 1519.578 1521.223 MARIE: .. [I don't know really what she was]. 1519.703 1523.545 >BABY: [(CRYING)][2=2][3=3] 1521.919 1523.487 LISA: [2Aw2][3==3]. 1522.674 1523.545 MARIE: [3But she um3], 1523.545 1524.692 (H) but it was just rude, 1524.692 1526.203 I was just being like really judgmental, 1526.203 1527.186 like on purpose. 1527.186 1527.426 Do you know? 1527.426 1529.086 [Cause I] would never go up and say something, 1527.496 1527.763 KEVIN: [@] 1529.086 1531.155 MARIE: . 1529.231 1529.602 LISA: [2Yeah2]. 1531.155 1531.839 MARIE: Do you know what I [3mean3]? 1531.609 1532.015 LISA: [3Yeah3][4=4]. 1531.551 1532.306 KEVIN: [3@@3][4@@@@4] 1531.889 1533.991 MARIE: [4(H)4] I would never say something like [5that but5], 1533.550 1535.241 LISA: [5Just to sh-5] kinda show him how it is-. 1535.241 1535.442 like, 1535.442 1535.839 MARIE: .. Yeah, 1535.839 1536.589 LISA: [what it feels like]. 1535.839 1536.587 MARIE: [how judgment-] -- 1536.587 1538.466 ... And I was just going off and off, 1538.466 1539.000 [and you could just], 1538.466 1539.058 KEVIN: [Did he react]? 1539.058 1540.208 MARIE: (H) He did. 1540.208 1541.243 He just did really quiet. 1541.243 1541.894 And then he's all, 1541.894 1542.744 uh ~Marie and Cassie, 1542.744 1543.635 can I talk to you for a minute? 1543.635 1543.993 And I was all, 1543.993 1545.795 2]. 1544.680 1545.058 KEVIN: [@@] 1545.342 1546.677 [2@@2] [3@@@@3] 1545.980 1547.316 LISA: [3@@@3]@@[4@@@4] 1546.677 1548.268 MARIE: [4(SCREECHING)4] [5(H)5] 1547.408 1548.944 LISA: [5(H) He wouldn't5] fire you. 1548.944 1550.082 (H) I could just see this, 1550.082 1550.605 .. y- k- -- 1550.605 1551.963 [You're going to unemploy]ment, 1550.639 1551.787 KEVIN: [You could s=ue]. 1551.963 1553.565 LISA: and the reason for (H) unemployment, 1553.565 1555.952 uh well I said something about drug addiction. 1555.952 1556.591 [You know what I @mean]? 1556.158 1557.728 KEVIN: [@@@][2@@@ (H)2][3=3] 1556.405 1557.357 MARIE: [@][2=@@2] 1556.555 1557.495 LISA: [2@@@@@2] 1557.613 1558.013 MARIE: [3But3] you know, 1558.463 1558.906 I was just, 1558.463 1558.906 [thought he was, 1558.401 1559.027 KEVIN: [Sue=]. 1558.923 1560.711 MARIE: I] thought he was gonna preach something like to me like, 1560.711 1561.695 -- 1563.030 1564.319 You know I thought he was gonna [bring] -- 1564.005 1565.549 LISA: [And he was] gonna tell you something about the boiler. 1565.558 1566.983 [2Or he'll X2][3X X X3][4X4] 1566.150 1566.568 MARIE: [2No2], 1566.557 1567.346 [3and he3] [4XX4] -- 1566.858 1567.346 KEVIN: [4Hu=nh4]? 1567.346 1567.671 MARIE: No. 1567.671 1569.337 And he .. [ended up asking] us, 1568.147 1568.855 LISA: [Cause at the store], 1569.337 1570.191 MARIE: (H) well %, 1570.191 1570.725 .. what, 1570.725 1571.376 how would you s- -- 1571.376 1573.801 How would you .. describe ... Barry. 1573.801 1575.025 ... And his work. 1575.025 1575.824 .. And I was like, 1575.824 1576.625 .. (H) he's all, 1576.625 1578.192 and be careful when you answer this question, 1578.192 1578.673 and I'm like, 1578.673 1580.025 ... so I was all, 1580.025 1581.156 .. . 1581.156 1581.356 I said, 1581.356 1583.508 [because] . 1581.356 1581.566 LISA: [@] 1583.508 1584.170 MARIE: @@@ 1584.170 1584.843 (H) I was all, 1584.843 1585.547 but when I did, 1585.547 1585.772 you know, 1585.772 1587.066 I didn't think he was a good worker. 1587.066 1587.344 He's all, 1587.344 1587.925 . 1588.517 1589.701 (H) But it was just Barry. 1589.701 1590.251 It just had -- 1590.251 1590.769 .. You know, 1590.769 1591.238 and [he -- 1590.932 1592.187 KEVIN: [<@ Nothing then to do with what you were @>] -- 1591.238 1593.082 MARIE: (H) Not anything] to do with what I said, 1593.082 1594.138 [2but you could tell that2], 1593.082 1594.490 LISA: [2(H) Why be caref2]ul. 1594.490 1596.210 (Hx)= ... (H) [3I don't understand that3]. 1595.466 1596.117 MARIE: [3Because I did -- 1596.117 1597.034 He3] didn't want me to say, 1597.034 1598.590 , 1598.590 1599.356 and na-na-na-na-na. 1599.356 1599.705 LISA: [Why]. 1599.356 1599.716 MARIE: [You know]. 1599.716 1600.628 (H) I don't know, 1600.628 1601.016 just, 1601.016 1603.062 because that was be[ing judgmental I] guess. 1601.818 1602.727 LISA: []. 1603.124 1603.647 KEVIN: Issac. 1603.647 1604.750 LISA: ... ~Marie, 1604.750 1605.368 MARIE: No hunh? 1605.368 1607.372 LISA: .. He's gonna get .. on all the wires and stuff. 1607.372 1610.922 ...