0.000 3.675 LAURA: ... Look at this. 3.675 4.427 Isn't this pretty? 4.427 4.936 LISBETH: .. %X. 4.994 6.952 ... [. 5.877 6.347 DON: [What is that]. 6.952 8.008 LAURA: [2~Mary always wears them2]. 7.299 8.748 X: [2Wok wok2] wok wok [3wok3], 8.472 9.300 LAURA: [3She4] brought so[4=me. 9.124 9.845 X: [4Wok wok4]. 9.505 10.631 LAURA: .. I always4] comment [5on them5]. 10.127 11.087 LISBETH: [5You5] have to be nice to me, 11.087 11.780 LAURA: [6She brought6] some -- 11.087 11.583 DON: [66], 11.780 12.794 [7that's a7] [8cute 8] -- 11.780 12.049 JENN: [77] 12.049 13.202 LISBETH: [8Sharing my8] candy. 13.202 13.648 JENN: .. [99] 13.442 14.460 LEANNE: [9 for them]. 13.789 14.653 BILL: [Not cute at] all, 14.653 15.448 .. [2very elegant2]. 14.859 15.448 LISBETH: [2Yes you are2]. 15.448 15.966 JENN: I am, 15.966 18.097 .. I am mean to you all the time. 18.097 20.170 BILL: ... Look how mean you're being. 20.170 23.268 JENN: ... [2]. 21.760 23.103 RICHARD: [~Jenn you're crue=l]. 23.103 23.303 LAURA: [2Look2]. 23.361 24.875 DON: [3Oh that's wonderful3]. 23.683 24.875 BILL: [3@@ .. @@3] 24.875 25.486 .. Guilt. 25.486 25.946 MARY: Looks uh, 25.946 26.631 BILL: [~Lisbeth]. 25.946 27.313 LEANNE: [Mom it looks] so good. 27.333 27.840 MARY: So good. 27.840 28.499 DON: It looks lovely. 28.499 29.346 JENN: ... You know, 29.346 31.401 this family w=orks on guilt. 31.401 32.995 The engine of this family, 32.995 34.276 is a little guilt motor. 34.276 36.316 That goes vroo=m [vroo=m vroo=m]. 35.232 36.316 DON: [@ @@ @] 36.316 37.306 LAURA: I don't agree with you. 37.306 38.773 JENN: I t=otally agree. 39.006 39.353 BILL: [Right. 39.006 39.353 JENN: [I don't -- 39.353 39.568 And] -- 39.353 40.544 BILL: We're] making you [2feel guilty, 39.909 41.058 MARY: [2<@ I totally agree= @>2], 40.544 41.058 BILL: but what2], 41.058 42.728 LEANNE: [3<@ You totally agree3] [4with your4][5se=lf, 41.058 41.596 BILL: [3what are we3] -- 41.596 42.228 LAURA: [4X>4], 41.596 43.501 BILL: [4@@@4][5@@@ @(H) @(H)5] 42.228 43.361 LAURA: [5@ .. @@@5] 42.728 43.361 LEANNE: ~Jennifer5], 43.361 45.036 you're agreeing with your[6self @>6]. 44.272 45.036 JENN: [6Yes6]. 44.272 45.036 BILL: [6@I @agree6]. 45.036 46.786 [7.. She totally agreed with herself7]. 45.036 46.786 MANY: [7(LAUGHTER)7] 46.786 47.939 DON: [8I totally agree with me8]. 46.786 47.939 LEANNE: [8@@ @(H)8] 47.939 50.752 MANY: (LAUGHTER)= 50.752 52.152 DON: Boy if that isn't conceit, 52.152 52.918 n=othing is. 52.918 54.286 LISBETH: [] [2not believable2]. 52.966 53.336 DON: [@@] 53.385 54.286 LEANNE: [2(H) @@@2] 54.286 54.751 X: XXX 54.751 56.510 BILL: @@@[@@@@] 55.369 56.510 JENN: [<@ I totally agree @>]. 56.510 57.721 DON: [2Such a2] great [3statement3]. 56.510 56.923 LEANNE: [2@(H)2] 57.150 58.362 LISBETH: [3Fill in3] the box. 58.362 60.270 It's like giving yourself a survey. 60.270 60.840 DON: [XXX. 60.270 61.549 MANY: [(LAUGHTER)] 60.840 61.549 DON: .. @Right][2=2]. 61.410 62.133 LISBETH: [2A2]gree with yours- -- 62.133 62.539 DON: @[3@3] 62.273 62.539 LISBETH: [3@3] 62.539 64.738 DON: .. [4Do you think you're a wonderful person4]. 62.828 64.738 LEANNE: [4@(H) @@@@ .. @(H) @4] 64.738 65.218 DON: Yes. 65.218 65.707 [Check]. 65.218 65.707 BILL: [@@] 65.707 67.160 DON: [2@(H) @@@@2] 65.707 67.160 LEANNE: [2@(H) @2][3@@ @(H)3] 66.381 68.013 BILL: [2I totally a2][3gree with my3]self. 67.160 67.713 DON: [3(H) Yeah3]. 68.013 69.253 [4Do you think4] other peo[5ple are mis5]erable. 68.013 68.646 LEANNE: [4(COUGH) (COUGH)4] 68.832 69.124 BILL: [5Mhm5]. 69.253 69.669 DON: Yes. 69.669 70.034 Check. 70.034 73.103 MANY: (LAUGHTER) 73.103 74.258 DON: Do [you agree] with me. 73.336 73.755 LEANNE: [@(H)] 74.258 74.638 DON: Yes. 74.638 75.008 Check. 75.241 76.673 MARY: @@@@@@ 76.906 77.362 BILL: [@@] 76.906 77.362 JENN: [Shut up]. 77.362 78.952 DON: [2@@@@@@ @(H)2] 77.362 79.231 LEANNE: [2@@@@@2] (H) 77.362 78.952 MARY: [2@ @(GASP)=2] 79.231 79.565 @(H)= 79.565 80.158 DON: @@@ 80.158 80.769 MARY: @@@ 80.769 81.788 LEANNE: @@@@@ 81.788 82.452 DON: [X=. 81.788 83.499 BILL: [(H) 8]. 91.172 92.437 DON: [8and me= SING>8]. 92.437 93.291 MANY: [9(LAUGHTER)9] 92.437 93.931 JENN: [9There is a f9]ine line though, 93.931 96.012 [between] guilt and responsibility. 93.931 94.416 MARY: [(COUGH)] 96.012 98.413 JENN: [2Like you're2] feeling a respon[3sibility3] towards people, 96.012 96.454 DON: [2(TSK) Ah2]. 97.410 97.781 [3Mm3]. 98.413 99.560 JENN: And the feeling of guilt, 99.560 101.425 to m=ake yourself do things. 101.425 101.850 DON: M[hm]. 101.541 101.850 BILL: [Right]. 101.791 102.903 JENN: And I think tha=t line, 102.903 103.747 is really fuzzy but I think, 103.747 104.649 o=ften, 104.649 105.413 DON: .. [Talk to me]. 105.010 108.816 JENN: [The gui]=lt .. strings are t=ugg[2ed .. very hard2]. 107.633 110.358 LEANNE: [2That is the biggest crock2] of [3shit I have3] [4ever @heard4]. 108.920 109.926 JENN: [3No it's not3]. 108.920 109.926 BILL: [33]. 109.926 111.998 JENN: [4.. You and4] [5I have had a talk about this be5]fore. 110.358 111.654 BILL: [5You='re not an orphan5]. 111.998 113.066 LEANNE: ... No. 113.066 114.257 Well I happen to think [yes, 114.030 114.771 DON: [Now tell me], 114.257 117.406 LEANNE: that guilt] is [2%a very2] massive [3part of this fami3]ly. 115.002 115.579 DON: [2~Jenn- w-2] -- 116.079 117.044 [3What happened XXX3]. 117.406 122.758 RICHARD: ... [4@>P>4] -- 122.274 122.758 LEANNE: [4Guilt4], 122.758 122.966 no, 122.966 123.999 she's right to a certain extent. 123.999 125.912 BILL: ... Bu[=ll=sh=]i=t. 124.987 125.683 LEANNE: [This family] -- 125.912 126.461 @i[2=s, 126.264 127.956 DON: [2@@@@ @ .. @(H)2] 126.461 127.440 LEANNE: @@@@ (H) 127.440 128.654 To a2] [3certain extent. 127.956 128.934 LAURA: [3How= do you3] -- 128.654 130.089 LEANNE: I3] [4qualif4]ie=d. 128.934 129.635 BILL: [4Bullshit4]. 130.089 131.681 LEANNE: (H) believe in gui[5lt5]. 131.506 132.449 BILL: [5B5]ullshi=t. 132.449 135.013 LEANNE: .. You don't [6think this fami6][7ly uses guilt7]? 133.035 133.790 LAURA: [6Well .. I6] -- 133.035 134.308 BILL: [6.. The trou6][7ble is, 134.308 137.065 a li=ttle7] guilt goes a [8lo=ng way8]. 135.980 137.065 DON: [8Lo=ng way8]. 136.995 138.384 LEANNE: Especially if you're Jewish. 138.384 139.058 JENN: .. [Yeah]. 138.556 139.304 LAURA: [Do you] [2think2] -- 138.556 141.099 BILL: [A=nd] [2you g2]uys feel a little bit guilty, 141.099 143.651 about the way you've treated us all [3these years of life3]. 142.766 144.524 LEANNE: [3Oh what a cr3][4o=ck4]. 142.766 143.858 LAURA: [3@= @@@@3] 143.858 144.524 DON: [4@@4] 144.524 146.699 LAURA: ... Now guilt [5works two way5]=s. 145.199 146.327 LEANNE: [5That's bullshit5]. 146.699 150.849 LISBETH: ... [6Now I've been looking for the May sev6]enteenth New York[7er7]. 147.403 147.882 LEANNE: [6Oh please, 147.882 148.453 .. Mother, 148.453 149.507 I've learned6], 150.692 150.849 RICHARD: [7@Hm7]. 150.849 151.301 LEANNE: .. @@ 151.301 152.457 LAURA: [@@ .. @@@] 151.301 152.111 LEANNE: [She's like, 152.457 152.941 (H) out] there. 152.941 153.262 [2You're2], 152.941 153.262 BILL: [2~Liz2], 153.262 153.607 LEANNE: ~Liz, 153.607 155.110 BILL: [Are you in this convers][2ation or not2]. 153.607 154.509 LEANNE: [You're 6]. 156.984 157.541 BILL: [6Oh6] I think, 157.541 157.927 LEANNE: Mom? 157.927 158.217 DON: .. Uh. 158.217 158.500 LAURA: Wait. 158.500 158.906 My gla- -- 158.906 159.269 I @have @m- -- 159.269 159.629 @I @have -- 159.629 161.053 I just go [without g]lasses on, 160.049 160.410 LEANNE: [@@] 161.053 161.631 I need XX -- 161.631 162.718 LEANNE: ... Mom? 162.718 163.170 LAURA: .. What. 163.170 163.693 LEANNE: Here's the deal. 163.693 165.047 ... You guilt me, 165.047 166.535 ... and in response, 166.535 167.790 I guilt you straight back. 167.790 168.325 LAURA: @T- -- 168.325 169.667 .. In [response]. 168.906 169.667 LISBETH: [% To guilt]. 169.667 170.801 .. That's now a verb. 170.801 172.398 [That's like] [2~Ta2][3=ra said today, 170.801 171.558 BILL: [It's a] [2new verb2]. 170.801 171.228 DON: [XX] 171.558 172.398 [3To beguilt, 172.514 172.824 to3] -- 172.514 172.824 LISBETH: to w-3] -- 172.824 173.184 LEANNE: .. @(H) 173.184 173.577 LISBETH: Uh, 173.577 173.996 LAURA: .. -- 173.996 174.874 LISBETH: [I'll water you]. 173.996 174.223 LAURA: [Said, 174.223 175.205 I'll water] you. 175.205 175.949 LISBETH: I'll water you. 175.949 176.330 LEANNE: .. Cause, 176.330 177.414 .. she's gonna . 177.414 177.643 But, 177.643 178.311 like sometimes, 178.311 179.049 what I'll say to you is, 179.049 180.400 you'll you'll start guilting me? 180.400 181.736 ... And what I'll do in response, 181.736 182.351 is I'll say Mom, 182.351 183.131 you're guilting me. 183.131 185.326 ... Whereupon [you immediately], 184.375 184.716 LISBETH: [Gilting. 184.716 187.347 That's putting a] little coat of go[2=ld on top isn't it2]? 186.295 186.726 BILL: [2Gold. 186.726 187.347 Yeah that's right2]. 187.347 187.872 That's [3right3]. 187.559 187.977 DON: [3Cor3][4rect4]. 187.559 188.292 LEANNE: [3That's3] [4gil4]ting, 188.292 189.057 not guilting. 189.057 190.429 DON: (H)] 189.752 190.429 LISBETH: [Excuse me]? 190.429 191.678 LEANNE: ... ~Liz? 191.678 193.743 ... Sort of like .. airplane and, 193.743 194.397 ... what's, 194.397 195.265 oh plane and plain. 195.265 195.759 That's it. 195.759 196.732 ... Um, 196.732 197.317 .. Mom? 197.317 197.806 LAURA: Yes. 197.806 198.414 LEANNE: Oh and plain, 198.414 199.231 ... and plane. 199.231 199.702 LISBETH: %Oh, 199.702 200.484 maybe this [is it]. 200.111 200.484 LEANNE: [Um], 200.484 202.491 ... , 202.491 203.128 whereupon, 203.128 203.590 you, 203.590 203.999 like, 203.999 205.547 ... develop .. guilt. 205.547 209.188 LAURA: ... Well I think what ~Jennifer said .. is correct. 209.188 213.909 % How do you separate ... responsibility ... from .. guilt. 213.909 217.173 BILL: ... Well if you have no feeling of responsibility, 217.173 219.647 no= amount of guilt will appear in [your head]. 219.190 219.989 LEANNE: [@Exact]ly. 219.989 220.953 LISBETH: ... Guilt, 220.953 222.059 .. in- in fact, 222.059 225.036 .. the distinction between guilt and responsibility is, 225.036 227.348 you must fee=l that you have responsibility, 227.348 228.881 (H) [that you have fai=led], 227.587 228.881 BILL: [In order to feel guilt]. 228.881 229.680 LISBETH: then you have -- 229.680 230.188 X: . 230.188 232.339 BILL: [It's a li][2ttle bit like s2][3=in and confession3]. 230.188 230.560 LISBETH: [guilt]. 230.560 231.168 LEANNE: [2You have guilt2]. 231.168 231.758 JENN: [3No but then, 231.758 232.339 somebody3], 232.339 232.591 but, 232.591 233.049 but [that's], 232.819 233.049 BILL: [Mhm]. 232.819 233.049 LAURA: [Mhm]. 233.049 234.521 LISBETH: [2Can't have one without2] [3the other3]. 233.049 233.811 JENN: [2that's exactly, 233.811 234.833 that's2] [3exactly3] [4right. 234.034 235.108 LEANNE: [3This thing is3] [4leaking4]. 234.833 238.422 JENN: There4] ca=n be somebody who [5makes you feel like you ha5]=ve a responsibility, 235.966 236.365 LEANNE: [5~Liz, 236.365 237.127 this is 5]. 238.422 239.233 JENN: (H) In a case, 239.233 241.180 (H) when that is not necess[arily clear]. 240.440 241.180 LISBETH: []. 241.180 242.619 So [2guilt2] is not the issue, 241.354 241.782 LAURA: [2Ah=2]. 242.619 244.985 LISBETH: the issue is a denial of responsibility. 244.985 245.636 JENN: No no no, 245.636 245.929 no, 245.929 248.090 you [totally turned what I said around]. 246.558 248.090 LISBETH: [

P>]. 248.090 249.230 JENN: There's [2an ac2] -- 248.572 249.230 RICHARD: [2@@2] 249.230 250.184 JENN: agent there, 250.184 252.152 who is making you feel responsible, 252.152 254.199 for something that you are not responsible for. 254.199 255.060 BILL: [] -- 254.199 255.060 LAURA: [Then you don't] -- 254.199 256.203 LISBETH: [.. Responsi][2bility is n=o=t -- 255.060 257.381 LEANNE: [2XXX to how you know you're responsible2]. 256.203 256.600 LISBETH: %(Hx) -- 256.600 258.681 is no=t an ob2]jective phenomena, 258.681 259.262 ~Jenn[3ifer3]. 259.021 261.104 JENN: [3It i3]=s often when [4they have been defined. 259.827 261.514 LISBETH: [4Unless you've signed a contract4]. 261.104 263.435 JENN: .. No4] when there have been defi=ned responsibility. 263.435 263.949 BILL: .. Right. 263.949 264.547 [For exam-] -- 263.949 264.547 LISBETH: [Okay]. 264.547 266.162 In most human relationships, 266.162 266.709 there are no, 266.709 267.726 .. defi=ned, 267.726 269.238 written in in [in] -- 268.839 270.578 JENN: [Mono]=gamy is a good example. 270.578 271.017 RICHARD: .. @(Hx)[2=2] 270.766 271.409 JENN: [2I=2][3n uh3] -- 270.960 272.428 BILL: [3What what3] wha=t are we talking about [4now4]. 272.123 272.428 RICHARD: [4@@4] 272.428 272.703 JENN: [5No, 272.428 272.844 BILL: [5Monogamy. 272.703 273.290 JENN: I'm just talking about5] -- 272.844 273.290 BILL: Why5] -- 273.290 274.688 JENN: [6I'm trying to think about fami6][7ly, 273.290 274.498 LAURA: [6@@@@ @(H)6] 274.498 275.831 BILL: [7Trying to make me feel7] guilty? 274.688 275.378 JENN: situations7]. 275.831 276.733 RICHARD: [8@(H) @@@8] 275.831 276.733 LAURA: [8@@@8] 276.733 278.595 BILL: [9@@@@@@9] 276.733 278.953 JENN: [9I'm tro- talking about family sit9]uations, 278.953 279.223 LEANNE: [@] 278.953 280.200 JENN: [I'm ta]lking about like set- -- 280.200 281.737 .. Cleaning up after yourself. 281.737 282.359 Or doing things, 282.359 284.407 that you have clea=rly defined, 284.407 285.571 as ru=les in this [house, 285.326 286.075 LISBETH: [That is correct]. 285.571 286.858 JENN: as you=r respon]sibility. 286.858 287.781 LISBETH: ? 287.781 288.784 LAURA: .. [Is] [2that bad2]? 287.896 288.136 JENN: [As] -- 288.136 289.602 LISBETH: [2Whose re2][3sponsibility3]? 288.622 288.933 JENN: [3As -- 288.933 289.602 .. No no3]. 289.602 290.243 As your, 290.243 290.761 our. 290.761 293.028 RICHARD: Wait I want [to go back to this mono][2=gamy thing2]. 291.164 292.354 JENN: [The individual person]. 292.354 293.028 LAURA: [2@@@@2] 293.028 293.302 RICHARD: [3What is -- 293.028 294.062 BILL: [3@=@@3][4=4] 293.302 293.878 RICHARD: What is that3]? 293.878 294.096 LEANNE: [4@4] 294.096 297.259 MANY: [5(LAUGHTER)5] 294.096 294.230 JENN: [5No, 294.230 294.716 I'm just trying- -- 294.716 296.275 I was just trying to think of examples, 296.275 297.250 of what are assu=med5], 297.250 299.086 LEANNE: [6((APPLAUSE))6] 297.259 297.905 JENN: [6but never, 297.905 298.784 assu=med, 298.784 300.134 but6] ne[7ver .. delineated7]. 299.226 300.134 LEANNE: [7Good question7]. 300.134 300.766 LISBETH: And therefore, 300.766 302.645 if it's assumed and not delineated, 302.645 304.635 .. does responsibility exist or not. 304.635 306.413 JENN: ... It does. 306.413 307.070 LISBETH: .. Ah. 307.070 307.330 Good. 307.330 307.992 So [we have -- 307.504 307.992 LAURA: [Wait wait. 307.992 308.683 I'm] losing -- 307.992 308.266 LISBETH: Except] -- 308.683 309.035 LAURA: I -- 309.035 309.535 RICHARD: .. @ 309.535 310.735 LEANNE: [Responsi][2bility2] -- 309.610 310.368 LAURA: [Assu=med] -- 310.415 312.430 RICHARD: [2You2] lost half of us back [3XXX3]. 311.845 312.815 MARY: [3(H) @@@@3] 311.845 314.905 LEANNE: [3Responsibility3] can be either assumed .. or .. asked, 314.905 315.164 like, 315.164 316.190 LAURA: Or[= expli][2cit2]. 315.385 315.796 LEANNE: [certain]. 315.796 317.827 LISBETH: [2There seem2] to be three categories. 317.827 319.564 ... There's no responsibility, 319.564 320.929 LEANNE: ... [Assumed XXX], 319.908 321.315 LISBETH: [there i=s] responsibility, 321.315 322.426 but it's inarticulate. 322.426 323.684 .. Or it's articulate. 323.684 324.117 JENN: That's [right]. 323.861 324.539 LISBETH: [Two] categories. 324.623 324.925 Okay? 324.925 325.162 JENN: Right. 325.162 325.729 LISBETH: So now we got, 325.729 326.732 [we're all together now]? 325.729 326.364 JENN: [And so when -- 326.364 326.949 When] [2there is2] -- 326.732 326.949 LEANNE: [2So wait2], 326.949 329.673 [3can you have g3][4uilt for all4] [5three for5][6ms of responsibility6]. 326.949 328.025 LISBETH: [3Should I get a black3][4board4]? 327.566 328.025 RICHARD: [4No=4]. 328.025 328.607 LAURA: [5@@5] 328.607 328.933 JENN: [6No, 328.933 329.673 and I'm saying-6], 329.673 330.389 and she [7said that, 329.929 331.114 RICHARD: [7I'm still confu=7][8sed8]. 330.389 330.843 JENN: she's saying7], 330.843 331.413 LAURA: [8@8][9@@9] 330.843 332.056 JENN: [8We're8] [9not talk9]ing about [guilt], 331.812 333.416 LEANNE: [He's still] confused [2about monogamy2]. 332.510 332.922 RICHARD: [2I'm sorry, 332.922 333.610 I'm du2]=mb. 333.610 334.169 LAURA: [3@3][4@@4] 333.819 334.373 MARY: [4@@4][5@=5] 334.169 334.607 DON: [55], 334.169 335.352 JENN: [5We're w5]e're not talking about -- 335.352 335.627 She says, 335.627 335.947 g- oh, 335.947 337.074 we're not talking about guilt, 337.074 338.508 we're talking about responsibility, 338.508 339.664 and denial of responsibility, 339.664 340.323 and I said no. 340.323 342.712 We're talking about somebody who m=akes you feel responsible, 342.712 345.374 for something that is not nece[ssarily always going on]. 343.959 344.918 LISBETH: [And I said to her, 344.918 346.120 how] do you know[2=, 345.892 346.994 LAURA: [2What was this about2]. 346.120 347.236 LISBETH: .. what your respon2]s- -- 347.236 349.186 ... Her statement about, 349.186 350.097 we'll [walk back and] -- 349.441 350.449 JENN: [Well I came] [2over here2], 349.888 350.449 LAURA: [2@@@2] 350.449 350.641 JENN: and she- -- 350.641 351.093 <@ I said, 351.209 352.517 [I looked at her] [2chocolate2], 351.209 351.554 LISBETH: [] [2XXX2]. 351.977 353.917 LEANNE: [2(H) We have2] [3to go back to where they were. 352.642 354.142 JENN: [3(H) I looked at her chocolate @>3], 353.917 354.642 LEANNE: You3] can't just -- 354.642 355.741 LAURA: [44]. 354.642 355.980 LISBETH: [45], 355.741 356.431 JENN: [5A>, 355.980 356.831 LEANNE: [6X .. XX6] 356.431 356.831 JENN: I said mm6], 356.831 357.176 and you said, 357.176 358.563 you can't have any of my [chocolate, 358.138 358.979 LAURA: [@@ @(H)] 358.563 360.047 JENN: (H) you've g]ot to be nicer to me, 360.047 361.427 [2if you want some of my ch2]ocolate VOX>. 360.047 361.171 LAURA: [2@@@@@2] 361.427 362.050 BILL: [3@@3] 361.427 362.050 JENN: [3And then I said3], 362.050 362.784 ... ab2][3out3]. 363.897 364.270 LAURA: [That-] -- 364.270 364.766 [2That's a2] -- 364.270 364.766 DON: [2.. Did sh-2] -- 364.766 366.426 LAURA: [3That's3] [4a statement of guilt4]. 364.766 366.426 LEANNE: [3A way3] [4to XX X= X4]. 366.426 367.473 LAURA: [5<@@>6]. 366.600 366.802 JENN: [5@They5] -- 366.600 367.456 DON: [5@@ @ @5] 366.802 368.184 LEANNE: [5F>7]. 367.473 367.857 JENN: [6@I6] -- 367.857 368.184 DON: [7Yeah7]. 368.184 369.186 JENN: HI>. 369.186 369.775 BILL: No that, 369.775 371.113 [you're quite right] ~Jennifer. 369.775 370.528 JENN: [@@ (H)] 371.113 371.864 <>. 371.864 372.626 [@@@] 371.864 372.626 DON: [@@ @(H)] 372.626 374.227 LAURA: [2@ @ @ @@2] 372.626 373.254 BILL: [2Quite right, 373.254 374.910 it's like when my fa2]ther used [3to say3], 374.517 374.910 LEANNE: [3@(H)3] 374.910 375.510 .. @@ 375.510 378.481 BILL: .. you'll be sorry [when I'm dead and gone]. 376.890 378.481 JENN: [(H)= Exactly]. 376.890 377.407 DON: [. 377.407 378.783 .. @@@] @(H) 378.783 382.097 LISBETH: But do you n- .. don't [2think she has a res2]ponsibility to be good to me? 379.665 380.547 JENN: [2Fu=ck you=2]. 382.097 382.596 .. %But, 382.596 383.248 BILL: .. [No], 382.853 384.098 LEANNE: [Wait a] minute wait [2wait wait2]. 383.627 385.597 BILL: [2the impli2][3cation is3] [4she's not4]. 384.098 385.597 LAURA: [3Oh= no3] [4no4], 384.669 385.113 LEANNE: [4Wait wait wait, 385.113 385.676 whoa whoa4] whoa. 385.676 386.128 Wait a second. 386.128 388.350 [Ap]ro[2pos something ~Jennifer said in2] May? 386.128 386.367 LISBETH: [%(Hx)] 386.539 387.995 BILL: [2@ @@ @ (H)2] 388.350 389.680 The implication is that, 389.680 390.709 she's no=t [good to you], 390.222 390.733 LISBETH: [That's right], 390.709 393.469 BILL: [2but not every2][3body has3] agreed with [4that impli4][5cation5]. 390.733 391.345 LEANNE: [2Wait ~Lisbeth2]. 391.345 391.764 LISBETH: [3you didn't3] -- 392.422 392.952 LEANNE: [4~Lisbeth4]. 392.952 394.160 LISBETH: [5Yeah but you5] were not in the s- -- 394.160 394.796 in the, 394.796 395.131 JENN: [%(Hx)] 394.796 395.131 LISBETH: [in] -- 395.131 396.316 [2Christma2][3s tree3] [4shop4], 395.131 395.528 JENN: [2%(Hx)2] 395.528 396.316 LEANNE: [3Wait wait wait3] [4wait wait4], 395.935 396.316 JENN: [4%(Hx)4] 396.316 397.786 LISBETH: <@ when she [5carried on @>5], 396.749 397.786 DON: [5@@@@@5] 396.749 397.068 LEANNE: [5Wait, 397.068 397.786 (H) no ~Jenn5], 397.786 398.015 sit, 398.015 399.328 [(H) XXXX X on her]. 398.015 399.328 LISBETH: [about my behavior], 399.328 400.506 at [2the checkout2] counter. 399.420 399.865 LEANNE: [2~Lisbeth2], 400.506 402.054 [3ap3]ropos some[4thing ~Jennifer said in -- 400.506 400.721 BILL: [3Oh3], 401.189 401.563 [4wait a min-, 401.563 402.954 what did you do at the checkout counter4]. 402.054 402.590 LEANNE: , 402.590 404.541 (H) a4]propos something [5~Jennifer said in May5], 403.588 404.022 LAURA: [5Well wait. 404.022 404.990 You know5] [6~Liz6], 404.541 404.990 DON: [6Ma=6], 404.990 405.856 [7we have to hear7] [8this8] -- 404.990 405.856 LEANNE: [7HI>8] -- 405.474 405.914 JENN: [8XX8] 405.914 407.533 BILL: [9]. 405.914 407.533 JENN: [9Did I X9][XX=]? 406.433 406.942 LEANNE: [Wait, 406.942 407.533 ]. 407.533 408.455 . 408.455 411.695 (H) ~Jennifer and I and ~Dana had a hu=ge argument in May, 411.695 413.296 which created a rift for about a day. 413.296 416.218 ... Which was b- .. concerning you and grandma. 416.218 417.691 JENN: ... No not in May, 417.691 418.782 [because I wasn't here in May]. 417.691 417.945 LISBETH: [Oh, 417.945 418.782 let's not start]. 418.782 419.505 LAURA: .. Mhm. 419.505 420.619 LISBETH: Let's not start. 420.619 421.499 JENN: ... (H) What, 421.499 422.879 what about the checkout counter [then. 422.522 423.874 LEANNE: []. 422.879 423.477 JENN: You were about to, 423.477 425.032 you were about to] correct my m[2other, 424.798 425.254 LEANNE: [2So, 425.254 425.615 so2], 425.032 426.179 JENN: on something a2][2bout the checkout-2]. 425.615 426.179 LAURA: [3Well I3], 426.179 427.252 I think there is a -- 427.252 427.900 %Uh you see, 427.900 429.410 DON: What happened at the [checkout counter]. 428.669 429.048 BILL: [What hap- -- 429.048 429.550 We wanna know][2=2]. 429.410 431.000 JENN: [2Mo2]=m [3says3] [4I pounced4] on her, 429.769 430.062 LEANNE: [3@(Hx)3] 430.062 430.703 RICHARD: [3@(H)3][4@@4] 431.000 431.564 JENN: And all I did, 431.564 432.426 [this is what I did. 431.768 432.743 LAURA: [I don't know what happened]. 432.426 433.243 JENN: I went] Mo=m? 433.243 434.523 LISBETH: ... Calm down. 434.523 434.787 [And then] -- 434.523 434.787 JENN: [No], 434.787 435.516 I didn't say it loud, 435.516 436.332 I just went like this. 436.332 436.651 I said, 436.651 437.055 LISBETH: %Y- %(Hx), 437.055 438.479 sh- . 437.946 438.180 LEANNE: [(Hx)] 438.180 438.896 LAURA: [2@2][3@@3] 438.479 439.685 JENN: [3%(H)3] [4Did I p4][5ounce5] -- 438.896 439.328 LISBETH: [4You said-4] -- 439.328 440.015 [5S=5][6uch a6] -- 439.328 440.015 LAURA: [5.. I5] [6was %6] -- 440.015 441.715 I didn't see what happened in the [7checkout7] c[8ounter, 440.988 441.426 LEANNE: [77]? 441.529 443.208 JENN: [8 pounce on you8]. 441.715 443.614 LAURA: I was gonna offer an opinion a8]bout the d- -- 443.614 443.879 .. the d- -- 443.879 445.103 the disagreement there. 445.103 446.952 About ... the .. uh[=, 446.813 448.180 BILL: [What was she doing] there why [2you2] -- 446.952 447.666 LAURA: the trust]. 448.003 449.014 JENN: [2The2] trust involved. 449.014 450.201 Do you [3think that3]'s true . 449.221 449.487 LAURA: [3Yeah3]. 450.201 451.453 ... Yeah I do [4think that's true4]. 450.747 451.931 LISBETH: [4But it was not about4] ~Jennifer, 451.931 453.349 it was about the lady. 453.349 453.614 LAURA: Right. 453.614 453.912 But I, 453.912 455.818 I happened to agree with ~Jennifer. 455.818 458.795 Because it reminds me of all these old people in the supermarket, 458.795 460.449 .. who are standing there going, 460.449 462.115 .. are you sure that's twenty one cents, 462.115 463.017 .. or twenty two cents. 463.017 464.812 It's [programmed] [2into the computer2]. 463.250 463.670 LISBETH: [I=], 463.670 465.380 DON: [2@ .. @@2] [3.. @@3] 463.670 466.291 LISBETH: [24]. 469.671 471.108 JENN: [4Mo=m4] .. was getting a h=-, 471.108 472.478 was starting [5to h5]yperventilate, 471.424 471.643 RICHARD: [5@5] 472.478 473.376 JENN: at the [6checkout 6]. 472.713 473.376 LAURA: [6@@@6] 472.713 475.813 LISBETH: [6There were so6] many objects going on the [7counter7]. 475.263 476.935 JENN: [7. 475.923 476.137 DON: [8@(H)8] 476.935 478.367 JENN: [9<@ Just so many9] [ob][2jects @>2]. 476.935 477.992 LEANNE: [9@(Hx) @@9][@] 476.935 477.992 BILL: [9.. @9][@@] 477.639 479.343 LISBETH: [And it] [2was2] not [3cle3][4ar4], 478.633 478.895 DON: [3@3] 478.895 479.343 LEANNE: [4(THROAT)4] 479.343 480.249 LISBETH: ... for a [5little5], 479.961 480.249 LEANNE: [5(THROAT)5] 480.249 480.947 LISBETH: few minutes there, 480.947 482.774 wh=at was already rung in, 482.774 484.461 .. . 484.461 487.944 And I did not want= the lady= to get confu=sed, 487.944 490.329 and ring in items more than once. 490.329 490.841 JENN: So [she] -- 490.564 492.281 LISBETH: [And sh]e specifically said, 492.281 494.824 .. not to put [2everything2] on the [3counter3]. 493.274 493.807 LAURA: [2Okay2]. 494.353 494.741 [3Well then3], 494.741 495.136 I didn't, 495.136 495.946 [I didn't know that]. 495.136 495.545 BILL: [Yeah=, 495.545 496.302 and so what] happened. 496.302 499.239 LISBETH: .. (SNIFF) .. Starts putting everything on the cou[2nter2]. 498.797 499.239 JENN: [2No=2], 499.239 499.964 ... I w- -- 499.964 501.307 ... Acts like I'm a child, 501.307 502.447 like I'm just throwing things on. 502.447 503.286 I was [no]=t. 502.761 502.960 LISBETH: [No], 503.286 505.145 JENN: [2There was an order to how I was doing it2], 503.286 505.145 RICHARD: [2@(H)= @@@@ @(H)2] 505.145 505.880 BILL: It was yeah. 505.880 506.888 O[=ne at a time]. 506.127 506.888 LEANNE: [Yeah but ~Jennifer]. 506.888 507.058 As- -- 507.058 509.499 One person's order is another person's mess[=]. 509.302 509.796 JENN: [No][2=2]. 509.491 510.559 LAURA: [2@@2]@@ 510.559 511.078 LISBETH: ... @(Hx) 511.078 513.056 LEANNE: [Especial]ly if [2you look in my bedroom2]. 511.078 511.681 LAURA: [@@] 511.911 513.777 JENN: [2M=o=m was starting to hyper2]ventilate, 513.777 516.570 about something that did not require a breakdown, 516.570 518.895 .. [and I=] was [2trying to pat her2] [3on3] [4the shoulder, 516.570 517.112 X: [@Ts- %] 517.323 518.306 LEANNE: [2@@2][3@3] 518.016 518.511 LISBETH: [3It looks3] [4a bit -- 518.511 520.498 And I said to her in the car4], 518.895 520.498 JENN: and say it was o=kay4]. 520.498 521.709 LISBETH: that this language, 521.709 524.362 ... . 524.362 527.404 ... This [ex]aggerated language, 525.398 525.601 JENN: [X] 527.404 527.808 X: Ts=, 527.808 529.758 RICHARD: ... What does this have to do with guilt? 529.758 530.659 LISBETH: @(Hx)[@@@] 530.043 535.639 LAURA: [(LAUGHTER)][2=2][3=3][4=4][5=5][6=6][7=7][8=8] 530.043 530.918 BILL: [.. @] [2@Right. 530.492 531.591 DON: [2@@@@@2] 530.918 531.409 BILL: .. @2] 531.591 531.905 [3Right3]. 531.905 532.612 DON: [4I don't4] [5know ~Rich5]. 532.213 533.184 LEANNE: [5Or mon5][6ogamy6]. 533.184 534.397 BILL: [7What does it have to do with monogamy. 534.397 535.499 That's what I wan7][8na know8]. 535.056 535.298 LEANNE: [8 the9] [monogamy thing ~Jenn][2=2]. 535.639 536.110 DON: [9@@9] 536.110 537.323 BILL: [@@= @@] 537.323 537.806 LAURA: [2@@2] 537.806 539.554 JENN: ... That was .. a slip. 539.554 541.193 DON: .. [@@ @A @slip]. 539.764 541.193 BILL: [@@@] 541.193 541.621 X: .. (HICCUP) 541.621 544.412 MARY: .. [Where did] that language of exaggeration [2come from, 541.840 542.391 DON: [Uh=], 543.820 544.121 BILL: [2You know what, 544.121 545.719 there's two sides to this2][3=3]. 544.412 545.185 MARY: as a joke2]? 545.464 545.719 LISBETH: [3@Uh3], 545.719 547.217 MARY: Cause it's % my disease. 547.217 547.622 And, 547.622 550.939 ~Mimi ~Fogarty is like ... the biggest ... perpetrator of it. 550.939 551.982 BILL: ~Mimi [~Fogarty- -- 551.500 552.533 LISBETH: [You don't exagg]erate. 551.982 552.250 BILL: Oh]. 552.533 553.372 MARY: .. Sh=[2e d-2] -- 552.951 553.308 BILL: [2Oh2]. 553.308 554.500 LISBETH: You're very cautious. 554.500 555.959 ... It [seems to me]. 555.355 556.412 MARY: [But sometimes] I do, 556.412 557.555 cause when I'm around other people, 557.555 558.896 I .. tend to talk [like them], 558.295 558.896 BILL: [Well %] -- 558.896 559.506 MARY: ... just like, 559.506 560.829 .. just little jokey things, 560.829 561.262 just like, 561.262 562.902 LISBETH: ... Yeah but that's just, 562.902 564.327 MARY: [with] [2numbers2] [3and stuff3]. 562.902 563.651 BILL: [~Jen][2nifer2], 563.194 564.327 LISBETH: [2That's how you m2][3ake humor3]. 564.327 565.445 That's how you [4make humor4]. 564.666 564.871 MARY: [4Yeah, 564.871 565.849 that's just hu4]mor[5=5]. 565.608 570.093 BILL: [5~J=5]ennifer and ~Lisbeth are hyper ... uh[6= sensitive6], 568.941 570.629 MARY: [6Like I told you twenty ti6]=mes. 570.629 572.448 BILL: to one another's language. 572.448 573.067 ... So, 573.067 574.570 [if ~Jenni]fer says, 573.067 573.781 MARY: [XXX]. 574.570 576.488 BILL: ... uh Mo=m, 576.488 577.970 ... ~Lisbeth hears, 577.970 580.473 ... a lot more [into it] .. than Mom. 579.035 579.439 MARY: [Right]. 580.473 582.862 BILL: ... And if m- .. ~Lisbeth says, 582.862 584.799 MARY: ... ~Jenn[ifer], 584.488 585.317 BILL: [~Jenn]ifer, 585.317 588.236 ~J=[2ennifer2] hears .. uh .. paragraphs. 585.900 586.180 MARY: [2Yeah2]. 588.236 588.809 Sure. 588.925 591.026 BILL: ... So there's a long history here. 591.026 593.095 LEANNE: .. [@ <@ Nine]-tenths of that paragraph @> [2is2] [3guilt3]. 591.098 591.475 LAURA: [Well that] -- 592.516 593.491 [2That's2] [3like3] ~Leanne's, 592.516 592.855 BILL: [3And then3] -- 593.491 594.210 LEANNE: <@ XX XX @>, 594.210 595.757 JENN: We'll have [very short sentences]. 594.409 595.757 LEANNE: [XXXXXX] 594.409 595.757 LAURA: [The button that you gave me]. 595.757 597.751 [2Don't look at me in that tone of2] [3voice3]. 595.757 597.494 JENN: [2We'll write very short letters to one another2]. 597.494 599.181 MARY: [3Did you3] [4have that4] [5with your mo5]ther though? 597.751 598.085 BILL: [4Right4]. 598.085 598.610 LAURA: [5@@@5] 599.181 599.784 LEANNE: 6] -- 599.383 600.519 MARY: [6Well that's6] [7a possibility7]. 599.383 599.784 JENN: [6No6]. 599.784 600.744 [7She didn't talk to her7] mom. 600.744 601.136 LEANNE: .. What Ma, 601.136 602.051 what were you saying about me and you? 602.051 603.601 LAURA: ... [That button you gave me], 602.415 603.601 MARY: [With thi=s like], 603.601 605.598 LAURA: don't look at me in [2that tone of voice2]? 604.510 605.849 MARY: [2The to=ne of the2] voi- -- 605.849 606.347 [Yeah]= like, 605.849 606.109 X: [XX] 606.347 607.502 MARY: I don't .. %>P>, 607.502 608.681 LEANNE: ... It's true. 608.681 609.099 No. 609.099 611.633 MARY: ... It came with [the valley girls I think]. 610.146 611.835 LEANNE: [Everything's ripe with] with, 611.835 613.058 ... hidden meaning. 613.058 614.304 MARY: ... <%P>%>. 614.304 615.879 LEANNE: ... Start what. 615.879 617.962 MARY: ... That ... way of j- speaking. 617.962 618.372 Just like, 618.372 619.780 , 619.780 621.096 LAURA: @@[@@@@@] 620.177 620.993 MARY: [like <@ I don't feel like, 620.993 622.182 peo]ple say that and I @> X -- 622.182 624.481 LEANNE: Jew=s ... said that in the nineteenth century. 624.481 625.290 LAURA: .. @@@ 625.290 631.035 MARY: ... %(Hx) .. %Ah, 631.035 631.946 just ex[pressing my-] -- 631.412 632.240 RICHARD: [What ti=me] [2is it2]. 631.946 633.241 LEANNE: [2, 632.240 632.983 MARY: [3P>3], 633.241 633.823 LAURA: [4Expressing what4]? 633.241 635.612 DON: [4Oh about4] [5half an hour5] since you last asked. 633.823 634.388 LEANNE: [5~Richard5], 635.612 636.520 X: .. . 636.520 637.447 DON: Ten twenty five. 637.447 638.034 LAURA: Ten thirty. 638.034 641.136 LEANNE: ... If you're bored, 641.136 642.037 .. do something. 642.037 644.458 RICHARD: ... I'm gonna go to sleep in a few minutes. 644.458 646.684 ...